As expected we are terrible. Good game Houston.

(10-27-2018 07:15 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 06:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  i went into the usf forum, and they are having a full meltdown

they are all in agreement that charlie strong needs to be fired asap

update charlie strong is 17-3 as the coach of usf....2 of the loses had crazy ending, this is the only bad loss strong has ever had

I agree that talk of firing strong is ridiculous. But, that record is really misleading. Last year he inherited QF and rode him the whole season. This season is more about CSS as a coach. I fully expected us to get gashed today. Our 7-0 was SO misleading. We BARELY beat some very awful teams... often with 4th Q miracles. Our play calling is as vanilla as I've ever seen. Starting to remind me of Holtz. Undisciplined penalties everywhere. Defense.... well everyone saw it today for what it really is against a quality opponent. If you forget the record and just evaluate what you see... I don't feel Strong is doing a great job... yet.

I think we can't judge strong until next season. This year is a bit of rebuilding. Next year more about talent he brought in and his scheme.

I agree with this but Charlie can flat out recruit south Florida. When he was at Louisville he out recruited Miami in the city of Miami. I think he just needs some time and a better QB option than Barnett. Just my opinion from the outside looking in.

(10-27-2018 07:10 PM)Bull Wrote:  Great game. We were there in green... So many UH fans welcomed and chatted with us... Amazing stadium. UH is a class act.

Thanks for the kinds words after a defeat. You are a class act.

Why. We were actually rooting for you.......

(10-27-2018 07:15 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 06:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  i went into the usf forum, and they are having a full meltdown

they are all in agreement that charlie strong needs to be fired asap

update charlie strong is 17-3 as the coach of usf....2 of the loses had crazy ending, this is the only bad loss strong has ever had

I agree that talk of firing strong is ridiculous. But, that record is really misleading. Last year he inherited QF and rode him the whole season. This season is more about CSS as a coach. I fully expected us to get gashed today. Our 7-0 was SO misleading. We BARELY beat some very awful teams... often with 4th Q miracles. Our play calling is as vanilla as I've ever seen. Starting to remind me of Holtz. Undisciplined penalties everywhere. Defense.... well everyone saw it today for what it really is against a quality opponent. If you forget the record and just evaluate what you see... I don't feel Strong is doing a great job... yet.

I think we can't judge strong until next season. This year is a bit of rebuilding. Next year more about talent he brought in and his scheme.

he is still 17-3
kevin sumlin inherited khalil tate and did nothing with it. you arent giving credit to strong there

1) charlie strong has NEVER been a blowout teams kind of coach, look at his elite years at Louisville, he was barely beating bad teams then too and those were top 15 teams

some coaches have styles that just arent like that.....look at o'leary at ucf..he had a top 10 team that needed "miracles" to be 4 sub .500 aac teams....

2)even if usf was just a 8-4 team this year..does usf have to be a top 25 team every year for it to be successful?

3) your comment makes it seem as if this year is a failure..but you will give him another chance next season...
you are 7-1 with a great opportunity to finish ranked (for the 3rd time in usf history), and a punchers chance at ny6 still on the table

beating temple and Cincinnati isnt some impossible task, and that is the difference between a top 25 season

I don't have a warm and fuzzy about strong either. His Texas team just two years replaced is now a good team. And players fighting coaches is a sign of a loose house. He seems like a good guy and best sutied as a coordinator. Of course I could be wrong.

(10-27-2018 07:22 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 07:15 PM)Bull Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 06:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  i went into the usf forum, and they are having a full meltdown

they are all in agreement that charlie strong needs to be fired asap

update charlie strong is 17-3 as the coach of usf....2 of the loses had crazy ending, this is the only bad loss strong has ever had

I agree that talk of firing strong is ridiculous. But, that record is really misleading. Last year he inherited QF and rode him the whole season. This season is more about CSS as a coach. I fully expected us to get gashed today. Our 7-0 was SO misleading. We BARELY beat some very awful teams... often with 4th Q miracles. Our play calling is as vanilla as I've ever seen. Starting to remind me of Holtz. Undisciplined penalties everywhere. Defense.... well everyone saw it today for what it really is against a quality opponent. If you forget the record and just evaluate what you see... I don't feel Strong is doing a great job... yet.

I think we can't judge strong until next season. This year is a bit of rebuilding. Next year more about talent he brought in and his scheme.

I agree with this but Charlie can flat out recruit south Florida. When he was at Louisville he out recruited Miami in the city of Miami. I think he just needs some time and a better QB option than Barnett. Just my opinion from the outside looking in.

Well in Miami’s defense they were terrible at the time.


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(10-27-2018 07:42 PM)Agust Wrote:  I don't have a warm and fuzzy about strong either. His Texas team just two years replaced is now a good team. And players fighting coaches is a sign of a loose house. He seems like a good guy and best sutied as a coordinator. Of course I could be wrong.

Sounds like Tubby Smith and Memphis.

(10-27-2018 07:10 PM)Bull Wrote:  Great game. We were there in green... So many UH fans welcomed and chatted with us... Amazing stadium. UH is a class act.

Glad you had a good time. We spoke to several USF fans and all of them were class acts. Best of luck going forward.

We are just "beating ourselves up," as SEC fans around here would describe themselves.

Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

You have to remember these are the same refs who earlier in the game ruled a ball, that skipped off the turf, an interception for usf...


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Congrats UH on the win. King gave an all out performance that deserves offensive player of the week. What a spin move on that TD run.

(10-27-2018 11:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

You have to remember these are the same refs who earlier in the game ruled a ball, that skipped off the turf, an interception for usf...


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All refs make mistakes I get it but you right that interception should have been reviewed, it was not and instead it was snapped immidietly as if someone else wanted a different outcome.

Not trying to take anything away from USF, yes they're a fine football program I'm just glad this interception was the one play that could have given us our second L.

(10-27-2018 11:51 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

You have to remember these are the same refs who earlier in the game ruled a ball, that skipped off the turf, an interception for usf...


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All refs make mistakes I get it but you right that interception should have been reviewed, it was not and instead it was snapped immidietly as if someone else wanted a different outcome.

Not trying to take anything away from USF, yes they're a fine football program I'm just glad this interception was the one play that could have given us our second L.

I also put the blame on the coaching staff for not challenging it.


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(10-27-2018 11:52 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:51 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

You have to remember these are the same refs who earlier in the game ruled a ball, that skipped off the turf, an interception for usf...


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All refs make mistakes I get it but you right that interception should have been reviewed, it was not and instead it was snapped immidietly as if someone else wanted a different outcome.

Not trying to take anything away from USF, yes they're a fine football program I'm just glad this interception was the one play that could have given us our second L.

I also put the blame on the coaching staff for not challenging it.


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Something tells me you don't approve of coach Applewhite and his brilliant coaching skills. Hahaha... I kid... I kid.

Remember it was snapped immidietly so perhaps they weren't able to see a convincing replay and losing a timeout was not in the cards.

(10-28-2018 12:30 AM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:52 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:51 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:33 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

You have to remember these are the same refs who earlier in the game ruled a ball, that skipped off the turf, an interception for usf...


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All refs make mistakes I get it but you right that interception should have been reviewed, it was not and instead it was snapped immidietly as if someone else wanted a different outcome.

Not trying to take anything away from USF, yes they're a fine football program I'm just glad this interception was the one play that could have given us our second L.

I also put the blame on the coaching staff for not challenging it.


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Something tells me you don't approve of coach Applewhite and his brilliant coaching skills. Hahaha... I kid... I kid.

Remember it was snapped immidietly so perhaps they weren't able to see a convincing replay and losing a timeout was not in the cards.

If thats the case ill concede the point. As far as applewhite im holding true that if he wins the conference championship, ill make a thread were everyone can mock me and make me eat crow lol!


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(10-27-2018 11:31 PM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Ok, so hoping emotions have calmed down a bit by now, but what was the deal with the "intentional grounding" call against the Coogs early in the 2nd half?

Yes, King was still in the box. Yes, there was no receiver in the area. But how was it deemed to be "intentional" grounding? That call is a judgement call, it isn't automatic just on the technicality. King wasn't about to get sacked, he had plenty of time, and he wasn't throwing the ball away. It was just a busted route to everyone in the stands, so what did the TV guys have to say about that play? Anything?

That was about as made up a BS call as you can make IMHO. I can't tell you how many busted routes like this and not one single "intentional" grounding call ever made.

It didn't affect the outcome, but jut curious how this could happen.

at most that play was "accidental grounding". the keyword is intentional. i read an article awhile back when the aac merged with the acc in their officiating. and the acc officials said they were going to take over because the aac officials at the time were subpar from everyone else. they blasted the whole conference but so far the officials have been garbage. it looks like we did the merger just to attach ourselves with some type of "p5" connection.

i definitly like last years officiating compared to this years.

(10-27-2018 05:09 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  That was not a hold. That was a pancake block. You're allowed to use your hands around his numbers. You're welcome Houston for the extra 4 points the refs awarded you.

usf just released its bullstrong episode on youtube an hour ago. i decided to watch it because i knew it would feature houston..they literally highlighted the hold in the show.

the is the most blatant hold calling ever..both 52 and 98 are being held from behind by there jerseys

you made 3 different posts saying it wasnt a legit hold call, and it was the refs. that isnt close to reality

^^USF o-lineman is practically ripping #52’s jersey off lol