(10-28-2018 11:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm waiting for UAB/Birmingham to actually build this new football stadium before they can be considered IMHO...

they did build a nice new covered practice facility:

Are you sure thats not the new Tulsa super gazebo we have heard so much about?

I actually give UAB props for understanding 'hey, we can't afford an indoor practice facility with heat/ac...but we can pay for a covered pavilion with synthetic turf and those port-a-cool fans on both sides.'

view from the far side showing the coaches offices/lockers/weight room


view from the coaches offices shared balcony

(10-28-2018 11:46 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 11:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm waiting for UAB/Birmingham to actually build this new football stadium before they can be considered IMHO...

they did build a nice new covered practice facility:

Are you sure thats not the new Tulsa super gazebo we have heard so much about?

I actually give UAB props for understanding 'hey, we can't afford an indoor practice facility with heat/ac...but we can pay for a covered pavilion with synthetic turf and those port-a-cool fans on both sides.'

view from the far side showing the coaches offices/lockers/weight room


view from the coaches offices shared balcony

My only concern would be how effective it is at staying dry during rain. Seems like with the high roof required for the facility, any wind at all will tend to cause rain to get on the edges of the field meaning conditions would be wet on edges and largely dry in the center. That would be the main disadvantage I'd see.

That said, the new Birmingham stadium renderings Ive seen look nothing short of magnificent. That stadium should be a big plus for the program.

(10-28-2018 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm waiting for UAB/Birmingham to actually build this new football stadium before they can be considered IMHO...

they did build a nice new covered practice facility:

You know... looking at that picture, I just realized - that is a "covered" practice field, not an IPF, which made me chuckle to myself... Are we dragging our feet on the IPF, not so much for the construction costs, but the effing utility bills!!! That's a LOT of A/C tonnage!

(10-27-2018 05:04 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  UMass and Liberty to the MAC makes far more sense...UMass, Buffalo, Liberty, Kent St, and Akron can all be buddies.

..."Mohamet, uh Jugdish, Sidney, and Clayton."
"Just grab a seat, make yourself at home, and feel free to help yourself to punch and cookies."

what Mass make yr in tv money, can't be a million
pay million to be associate member, put them on sch
AAC needs iventory for next contract

somebody right about Buffalo getting close
UTSA keeps MWC out of Tex

(10-28-2018 09:26 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  what Mass make yr in tv money, can't be a million
pay million to be associate member, put them on sch
AAC needs iventory for next contract

somebody right about Buffalo getting close
UTSA keeps MWC out of Tex

Wut?

(10-28-2018 09:31 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 09:26 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  what Mass make yr in tv money, can't be a million
pay million to be associate member, put them on sch
AAC needs iventory for next contract

somebody right about Buffalo getting close
UTSA keeps MWC out of Tex

Wut?

Hold on, I'm fluent in Charlie. . .

We don't need inventory. . .UMass isn't worth paying a ham sandwich. Buffalo is close to nothing and nobody. The only team MWC has interest in is BYU all sports when they kick out SJSU and one of Gonzaga, New Mexico State, Grand Canyon for all sports in the preferred order.

Plus who cares? We're not keeping the Big Xii out of Texas and thats who we're competing with.

UMass adds nothing to this conference as it stands. If UConn leaves though, a northeastern partner would be nice.

(10-27-2018 02:06 PM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I know UMass football stinks even they just beat UConn

Also their Basketball is no where it should be

But UMass offers a large TV number and a rivalry with UConn

They are also a good school and fits our geographic.

Anyone? I am all open to criticism

The AAC does not need another school/schools. It is just fine as it is.

(10-28-2018 09:26 PM)templefootballfan Wrote:  what Mass make yr in tv money, can't be a million
pay million to be associate member, put them on sch
AAC needs iventory for next contract

somebody right about Buffalo getting close
UTSA keeps MWC out of Tex

If UTSA alone could hinder the AAC's recruiting, then that's not good. I wouldn't worry about whatever UTSA does at all from my perspective.

If UTEP ever gets their mess of a football program back to where they were a decade ago, that would be MWC best bet. They have rivalries within that league. They're stuck on an island, situated in between New Mexico and Mexico, itself.

(10-29-2018 06:48 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 02:06 PM)AGuyIn_Water Wrote:  I know UMass football stinks even they just beat UConn

Also their Basketball is no where it should be

But UMass offers a large TV number and a rivalry with UConn

They are also a good school and fits our geographic.

Anyone? I am all open to criticism

The AAC does not need another school/schools. It is just fine as it is.

+1.

I say trade three for one to Indy-

We give up Tulane, Tulsa and ECU to Indy for Army and cash.

(10-29-2018 08:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I say trade three for one to Indy-

We give up Tulane, Tulsa and ECU to Indy for Army and cash.

Aww you’re not mad at Temple anymore!

(10-28-2018 11:46 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 11:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(10-28-2018 11:23 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm waiting for UAB/Birmingham to actually build this new football stadium before they can be considered IMHO...

they did build a nice new covered practice facility:

Are you sure thats not the new Tulsa super gazebo we have heard so much about?

I actually give UAB props for understanding 'hey, we can't afford an indoor practice facility with heat/ac...but we can pay for a covered pavilion with synthetic turf and those port-a-cool fans on both sides.'

view from the far side showing the coaches offices/lockers/weight room


view from the coaches offices shared balcony

I had no idea that had been done. I think it's brilliant. Article says 4 mil versus 13 mil. And USF keeps having a high percentage of practices impacted by fall tropical showers.

(10-29-2018 09:06 AM)vick mike Wrote:  

(10-29-2018 08:59 AM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  I say trade three for one to Indy-

We give up Tulane, Tulsa and ECU to Indy for Army and cash.

Aww you’re not mad at Temple anymore!

I can't believe we both survived the BC1 cut.

Alright! Another thread about the team of the week and why we should get them in the conference. Remember when people were gushing about Old Dominion... they've notched their second win of the season since we wanted to invited them to the AAC. UMASS' third win of the season sure was mighty. Heck, they could get 5 wins in top level college football for the first time since 1904 (as long as they can beat BYU or Georgia).
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/sch...achusetts/

I was hoping this thread was a sarcastic shot at UCONN fans, I'm surprised to see people take it seriously. UMASS is a really solid school, a huge University system, and does fit our geography well. But their reentry to top level football has been really ugly, if they were a conference member Cincy fans would be calling to kick them out already. And the basketball isn't good enough to carry the day - 1 NCAA tournament appearance in the last ~20 years. If you take out the Calipari years (including the vacated final 4 run) I don't think they ever have had an NCAA tournament win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMass_Minu...basketball

and yes, Tulsa football is utterly miserable. While I stand by my team, criticism is warranted and accepted. This comment isn't supposed to be a brag on Tulsa or a bash of UMASS. Practically speaking, I don't think they make the conference stronger. Can we stop pretending whatever the team of the week is should be invited to the AAC? It makes the P6 narrative look more ridiculous than having a few members living in the basement at the moment. If the AAC had to expand, sure, consider everyone who makes sense regardless of how they are at the moment. But until then...

I think it's only the military's and Dayton IMO.

Keep trying to add Army/Dayton as a compliment to Wichita/Navy and if you can get them maybe you can get Air Force to eventually come then.

I think the Academies are the only programs that really add to the TV package out there.

Dayton has had a level of support like no one else. Them for that reason and call it a day.

(10-27-2018 03:31 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  I mean the obvious thing to do is

(little) East
UCF
USF
ECU
CINCINNATI
TEMPLE
UCONN
+ UMASS
+ BUFFALO
+ ARMY/VCU


Conference-West-S-A
HOUSTON
MEMPHIS
NAVY/WICHITA
TULANE
TULSA
SMU
+ BYU
+ UAB
+ Air Force/St. Louis

OBVIOUSLY!

BYU I think isn't realistic but yeah, add them #1 off course. Less is more.

Don't get the UAB, Buffalo and UMass though. Less is more IMO. BYU military academies, the strongest basketball programs available.

If we have to dip below that I still think UTEP still has more longterm potiental than Buffallo's and such. They averaged like 50k in football and 12k in basketball back when we were in a conference with them. That's always still impressed me even if they were basically given the tickets away. Clearly that place will get behind a winner there. People didn't go see UAB and those teams even when they were good in anything.

Honestly, other than Army, Air Force, or BYU---there isnt a G5 football program that would say "yes" to an AAC offer worth adding. I am still reasonably open to adding a couple of high performing basketball programs to the league. If UMass got its stuff together on the hardwood, Id think they would be a very interesting choice as an olympic sports member.

(10-29-2018 11:31 AM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-27-2018 03:31 PM)STL_Wave Wrote:  I mean the obvious thing to do is

(little) East
UCF
USF
ECU
CINCINNATI
TEMPLE
UCONN
+ UMASS
+ BUFFALO
+ ARMY/VCU


Conference-West-S-A
HOUSTON
MEMPHIS
NAVY/WICHITA
TULANE
TULSA
SMU
+ BYU
+ UAB
+ Air Force/St. Louis

OBVIOUSLY!

BYU I think isn't realistic but yeah, add them #1 off course. Less is more.

Don't get the UAB, Buffalo and UMass though. Less is more IMO. BYU military academies, the strongest basketball programs available.

If we have to dip below that I still think UTEP still has more longterm potiental than Buffallo's and such. They averaged like 50k in football and 12k in basketball back when we were in a conference with them. That's always still impressed me even if they were basically given the tickets away. Clearly that place will get behind a winner there. People didn't go see UAB and those teams even when they were good in anything.

A few things.

If we take 1 Olympic only it'll be VCU, large urban school, lots of support and location for a new market.

If we take a second it'sa toss up between Dayton and St. Louis. Personally I forsee both in the nbe. They can make a Midwest division with Creighton, DePaul, Marquette, Butler, St. Louis and Dayton/Xavier. Knock down travel costs and connect everyone geographically for sports other than basketball.

UMass is NOT in our footprint and doesn't fit geographically at all. They fit UConn (who doesn't want them).

The geographical center of this conference for football is some where in eastern Tennessee, for basketball it is between Nashville and Birmingham roughly.

UAB has it attendance going up, led CUSA last year and is averaging 25k+ this year. It's likely they will approach a 30k average for the year as the next two are their final home games and they only have 1 loss.

UAB has a past with most of the teams in the AAC. It has a new stadium for football and is about to get approved for basketball arena renovations.