(10-24-2018 06:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:41 PM)otown Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  There is almost zero path for a G5 team to get into a 4 team CFP.

UCF does not have the schedule to prove they belong, they will deservedly be left out again.

They are only on a 20 game win streak and will most likely have 2-3 top 25 wins by the end of the year if they stay undefeated. Oh yea, I forgot, you are all in on the cartel kool aid that G5 top 25 team wins don't count.

What they did last year is irrelevant and their wins this year simply will not stack up.

OSU opponents combined records before Purdue beat them down? 18-26. They were #2 this VERY YEAR.

UCF actually beat 3 ranked teams last year. Last year, Alabama beat 3 ranked teams as well, and that includes FSU who was pathetic and finished the regular season 6-6.

Bias or kool aid, your choice.

(10-24-2018 06:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:41 PM)otown Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  There is almost zero path for a G5 team to get into a 4 team CFP.

UCF does not have the schedule to prove they belong, they will deservedly be left out again.

They are only on a 20 game win streak and will most likely have 2-3 top 25 wins by the end of the year if they stay undefeated. Oh yea, I forgot, you are all in on the cartel kool aid that G5 top 25 team wins don't count.

What they did last year is irrelevant and their wins this year simply will not stack up.

So if Middle Tennessee (or insert any other G5 school here) went undefeated for next year 2 seasons (assumption for UCF in this thread) and the CFP wouldn’t give you a shot based on your schedule (hint, if you did, that would absolutely happen) you would be ok with that?

(10-24-2018 05:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  There is almost zero path for a G5 team to get into a 4 team CFP.

UCF does not have the schedule to prove they belong, they will deservedly be left out again.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on here. I'm not saying the for sure deserve to be in. But how can you definitively say they "don't deserve" it? How many years in a row would they need to go undefeated?

(10-24-2018 02:30 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Agree with Herbstreit? They fit the narrative by selecting the data they wanted to argue their point. They left out several key criteria. One of which would be how App's close loss to Penn State not looking as good now that they've lost two, and will probably lose a couple more. Also, how Fresno gets credit for beating a REALLY bad UCLA team, and losing to a very mediocre Minnesota team. Read between the lines, because this could directly affect your school someday too. Though I doubt 8-4 Skip will ever eclipse that mark. I'm not trying to trash talk, but you know that guy has a ceiling. I still think he's a good, consistent coach. But it's not like you have to worry about anybody coming to swoop him up anytime soon.

Lol, Says the guy with Coach that is prop up by the NCAA. Dont kid yourself once those god send NCAA players phase out UAB will return to reality. But this is not about Coaches.

UCF hasnt beat anyone unlike Boise during their run who beat top 10 teams in the road Oregon, Va Tech, Georgia.

UCF needs a quality P5 win

(10-24-2018 06:53 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:41 PM)otown Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 05:20 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  There is almost zero path for a G5 team to get into a 4 team CFP.

UCF does not have the schedule to prove they belong, they will deservedly be left out again.

They are only on a 20 game win streak and will most likely have 2-3 top 25 wins by the end of the year if they stay undefeated. Oh yea, I forgot, you are all in on the cartel kool aid that G5 top 25 team wins don't count.

What they did last year is irrelevant and their wins this year simply will not stack up.

Wait, so last years record (combined with historical record and popularity) isn’t relevant in an era of preseason polls and endless off season media coverage followed by a week 1 guesses is not relevant?

Umm, that kinda how this has worked for decades.

Herbstriet specifically mentioned Boise State during their run for having quality wins. UCF doesnt have those.

As long as they're talking doesn't belong in CFP how about Notre LAME!? While they've had a few good teams on the schedule, combined records of those played 21 - 22. They barely beat 3 - 5 Vandy and 3 - 4 Pitt. They certainly aren't #3.

Its all rigged and its part of the SEC Bias of ESPN. IF You go undefeated you have earned the right. IF A&M is in with two losses, just admit that the regular season does not matter and its about the brand.

Outside of Bama there are no great teams, and any team could be beat on any day.

And if last year does not matter then how do they do the rankings in the preseason? Its based off of last years results and expectations.

(10-24-2018 07:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Herbstriet specifically mentioned Boise State during their run for having quality wins. UCF doesnt have those.

Yes, those undefeated Boise seasons where they were given the chance to play for the title.......... ohhhh wait

You actually believe his nonsense.......... what a cult

Id like to see App St get the Access Bowl, but then again, I don't want CUSA to be the only conference to never be represented there.

(10-24-2018 07:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:30 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Agree with Herbstreit? They fit the narrative by selecting the data they wanted to argue their point. They left out several key criteria. One of which would be how App's close loss to Penn State not looking as good now that they've lost two, and will probably lose a couple more. Also, how Fresno gets credit for beating a REALLY bad UCLA team, and losing to a very mediocre Minnesota team. Read between the lines, because this could directly affect your school someday too. Though I doubt 8-4 Skip will ever eclipse that mark. I'm not trying to trash talk, but you know that guy has a ceiling. I still think he's a good, consistent coach. But it's not like you have to worry about anybody coming to swoop him up anytime soon.

Lol, Says the guy with Coach that is prop up by the NCAA. Dont kid yourself once those god send NCAA players phase out UAB will return to reality. But this is not about Coaches.

UCF hasnt beat anyone unlike Boise during their run who beat top 10 teams in the road Oregon, Va Tech, Georgia.

UCF needs a quality P5 win

Oregon was at Boise
Georgia was at the Georgia Dome (RIP)
Virginia Tech was at FedEx Field (Landover, MD)

Neither in the same year.

I'm a Memphis fan second, but show support for the UAB brethren, because of their fight against the Evil Empire.

UNC was a top 25 team when game was originally scheduled. Pitt is up and down, and Maryland is whatever. The point is you can't predict what will happen 2, 3 years in advance.

Didn't Va Tech lose to James Madison the week after losing to Boise?

(10-24-2018 07:55 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 07:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:30 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Agree with Herbstreit? They fit the narrative by selecting the data they wanted to argue their point. They left out several key criteria. One of which would be how App's close loss to Penn State not looking as good now that they've lost two, and will probably lose a couple more. Also, how Fresno gets credit for beating a REALLY bad UCLA team, and losing to a very mediocre Minnesota team. Read between the lines, because this could directly affect your school someday too. Though I doubt 8-4 Skip will ever eclipse that mark. I'm not trying to trash talk, but you know that guy has a ceiling. I still think he's a good, consistent coach. But it's not like you have to worry about anybody coming to swoop him up anytime soon.

Lol, Says the guy with Coach that is prop up by the NCAA. Dont kid yourself once those god send NCAA players phase out UAB will return to reality. But this is not about Coaches.

UCF hasnt beat anyone unlike Boise during their run who beat top 10 teams in the road Oregon, Va Tech, Georgia.

UCF needs a quality P5 win

Oregon was at Boise
Georgia was at the Georgia Dome (RIP)
Virginia Tech was at FedEx Field (Landover, MD)

Neither in the same year.

I'm a Memphis fan second, but show support for the UAB brethren, because of their fight against the Evil Empire.

UNC was a top 25 team when game was originally scheduled. Pitt is up and down, and Maryland is whatever. The point is you can't predict what will happen 2, 3 years in advance.

Didn't Va Tech lose to James Madison the week after losing to Boise?

I think one thing that hurts UCF is having those 0 win seasons. Also, when Boise St. was going on those runs you also had Fresno St., Nevada and Hawaii going on their runs at the same time. Towards the end Tech and Utah St. picked up their game also.

So many of you are crying about the way you think things should be, I'm telling you the way things are.

In a four team format there simply isn't a path for the G5 without a nearly improbable level of help. Why do you think the P6 nonsense is so important? They know they do not have a seat at the table, and no matter what the accomplishment of any of their members, if there are four undefeated P5 champs, they will be held out.

Right now, only the Pac 12 looks vulnerable. Wazzu winning out is about their last chance of beating out an undefeated UCF.

Clemson can lose a game along the way and still get in ahead of an undefeated UCF. 1 loss NC State likely gets the nod as well.

1 loss Texas or Oklahoma definitely gets in over undefeated UCF, 1 loss WVU probably does.

1 loss Michigan or tOSU definitely gets in over undefeated UCF, 1 loss Iowa probably does.

Undefeated or 1 loss Notre Dame definitely gets in over undefeated UCF.

Undefeated(or 1 loss) Alabama or 1 loss Florida, Georgia, Kentucky or LSU definitely gets in over undefeated UCF.

This is the world we live in and the only reason we're even having this conversation is because four teams get in rather than just two. I am hopeful four leads to six or eight and dream of 16, but so long as it's just four, I've accepted it for what it is. If you wanna waste your time talking about what an unfair system it is, be my guest, but it is what it is and even four teams was "never gonna happen" not that long ago.


So if you wanna tell me there's going to be multiple two loss P5 champs, maybe the Knights have a chance, but they already have a big problem with their resume with Houston and USF playing this weekend, their resume would have been much better had they given USF their only loss and Houston just their second, but only one of those things will be possible and the Knights better hope whoever wins in Houston on Saturday wins out up until playing them.

(10-24-2018 07:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:30 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Agree with Herbstreit? They fit the narrative by selecting the data they wanted to argue their point. They left out several key criteria. One of which would be how App's close loss to Penn State not looking as good now that they've lost two, and will probably lose a couple more. Also, how Fresno gets credit for beating a REALLY bad UCLA team, and losing to a very mediocre Minnesota team. Read between the lines, because this could directly affect your school someday too. Though I doubt 8-4 Skip will ever eclipse that mark. I'm not trying to trash talk, but you know that guy has a ceiling. I still think he's a good, consistent coach. But it's not like you have to worry about anybody coming to swoop him up anytime soon.

Lol, Says the guy with Coach that is prop up by the NCAA. Dont kid yourself once those god send NCAA players phase out UAB will return to reality. But this is not about Coaches.

UCF hasnt beat anyone unlike Boise during their run who beat top 10 teams in the road Oregon, Va Tech, Georgia.

UCF needs a quality P5 win

Lol, Bill Clark was 6-6 in his first year here in 2014. I think we will be fine

Being such a salty sore loser is a bad look

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(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Careful!! Herbstreit doesn’t particularly care for us either. Even if a team in our conference was undefeated, he would still say that the team had a weak schedule.

(10-25-2018 01:15 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 07:23 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(10-24-2018 02:30 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  

(10-23-2018 10:46 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  



Gotta agree with Herbstreit. UCF schedule is too weak and certainly doesn’t compare to Boise State’s run.

In fact Fresno, Appy State and Utah State are all higher in the computer polls with much tougher schedules. No other AAC team close

Agree with Herbstreit? They fit the narrative by selecting the data they wanted to argue their point. They left out several key criteria. One of which would be how App's close loss to Penn State not looking as good now that they've lost two, and will probably lose a couple more. Also, how Fresno gets credit for beating a REALLY bad UCLA team, and losing to a very mediocre Minnesota team. Read between the lines, because this could directly affect your school someday too. Though I doubt 8-4 Skip will ever eclipse that mark. I'm not trying to trash talk, but you know that guy has a ceiling. I still think he's a good, consistent coach. But it's not like you have to worry about anybody coming to swoop him up anytime soon.

Lol, Says the guy with Coach that is prop up by the NCAA. Dont kid yourself once those god send NCAA players phase out UAB will return to reality. But this is not about Coaches.

UCF hasnt beat anyone unlike Boise during their run who beat top 10 teams in the road Oregon, Va Tech, Georgia.

UCF needs a quality P5 win

Lol, Bill Clark was 6-6 in his first year here in 2014. I think we will be fine

Being such a salty sore loser is a bad look

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Read the previous post, I didn’t say anything about coaches until the UAB brought it up. You and I know the true test for Clark and UAB will be when the NCAA players leave. Saying something that is not true is not a good look either

clt says appy is ranked just because they beat a hobbled Charlotte team

Not sure why C-USA fans are parroting the P5 bias against them. If UCF doesn't get in on a 25 or so game winning streak, then no G5 team is ever getting in a 4 team playoff. Do you think one of your schools is going to play Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oklahoma all on the road one year and go undefeated and make it into the playoff? If you're against UCF, you're basically saying you're fine with all G5 schools being left out forever.

(10-25-2018 07:34 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Not sure why C-USA fans are parroting the P5 bias against them. If UCF doesn't get in on a 25 or so game winning streak, then no G5 team is ever getting in a 4 team playoff. Do you think one of your schools is going to play Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oklahoma all on the road one year and go undefeated and make it into the playoff? If you're against UCF, you're basically saying you're fine with all G5 schools being left out forever.

Not true, besides Bowl win UCF has played no one. UCF schedule is ranked 127 out of FBS. Boise schedule was ranked much higher, heck Tech schedule is much higher with LSU and Ms State. You played those and win UCF would be in

It is alarming that a lot of CUSA fans line up with the way it is now. If one of our teams was undefeated for two years we would be crying foul to the top of our lungs. If you weren’t, you aren’t much of a fan...I say UCF should be in if they go undefeated again. More power to ya!