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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones as HC.
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Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones as HC.
(10-21-2018 09:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I think this is all fake news. I don't think Hart wants another full time job and unfortunately we keep Mo for another unless he man's up and resigns.
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10-26-2018 07:05 AM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-26-2018 07:05 AM)The Autumn Wind Wrote: (10-21-2018 09:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I think this is all fake news. I don't think Hart wants another full time job and unfortunately we keep Mo for another unless he man's up and resigns.
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The way this has played out over the last week really makes it look like Hart was a done deal and then the proverbial 'something' happened and everything fell apart. Who knows what the 'something' is (I suspect the hang up was probably overall athletics funding and facility improvements and/or the Pirate Club slinging their wang around again to make sure they didn't become part of the athletics department).
Hopefully Staton putting all of his eggs in the Hart basket doesn't mean we're stuck with Mo if this season ends with 2-4 wins.
(This post was last modified: 10-26-2018 08:19 AM by Lethemeul.)
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10-26-2018 08:17 AM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-26-2018 08:17 AM)Lethemeul Wrote: (10-26-2018 07:05 AM)The Autumn Wind Wrote: (10-21-2018 09:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I think this is all fake news. I don't think Hart wants another full time job and unfortunately we keep Mo for another unless he man's up and resigns.
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The way this has played out over the last week really makes it look like Hart was a done deal and then the proverbial 'something' happened and everything fell apart. Who knows what the 'something' is (I suspect the hang up was probably overall athletics funding and facility improvements and/or the Pirate Club slinging their wang around again to make sure they didn't become part of the athletics department).
Hopefully Staton putting all of his eggs in the Hart basket doesn't mean we're stuck with Mo if this season ends with 2-4 wins.
Or maybe Hart would rather not be hired by a guy who may see the door in the next year. Your higher ups look like a strong possibilities to be cleaned out. Hart may just have decided not to go down with that ship.
Your chancellor has made some dumb moves, Hart would know that.
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10-26-2018 10:23 AM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-26-2018 10:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote: (10-26-2018 08:17 AM)Lethemeul Wrote: (10-26-2018 07:05 AM)The Autumn Wind Wrote: (10-21-2018 09:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I think this is all fake news. I don't think Hart wants another full time job and unfortunately we keep Mo for another unless he man's up and resigns.
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The way this has played out over the last week really makes it look like Hart was a done deal and then the proverbial 'something' happened and everything fell apart. Who knows what the 'something' is (I suspect the hang up was probably overall athletics funding and facility improvements and/or the Pirate Club slinging their wang around again to make sure they didn't become part of the athletics department).
Hopefully Staton putting all of his eggs in the Hart basket doesn't mean we're stuck with Mo if this season ends with 2-4 wins.
Or maybe Hart would rather not be hired by a guy who may see the door in the next year. Your higher ups look like a strong possibilities to be cleaned out. Hart may just have decided not to go down with that ship.
Your chancellor has made some dumb moves, Hart would know that.
What idiot of a person would come in and fire Dave Hart. Hart just doesn’t want to work. That’s all it is.
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10-26-2018 01:02 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-26-2018 01:02 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote: (10-26-2018 10:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote: (10-26-2018 08:17 AM)Lethemeul Wrote: (10-26-2018 07:05 AM)The Autumn Wind Wrote: (10-21-2018 09:00 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I think this is all fake news. I don't think Hart wants another full time job and unfortunately we keep Mo for another unless he man's up and resigns.
Are you a Prophet? What stocks should I buy? What are the powerball numbers?
Looks like you were correct.
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The way this has played out over the last week really makes it look like Hart was a done deal and then the proverbial 'something' happened and everything fell apart. Who knows what the 'something' is (I suspect the hang up was probably overall athletics funding and facility improvements and/or the Pirate Club slinging their wang around again to make sure they didn't become part of the athletics department).
Hopefully Staton putting all of his eggs in the Hart basket doesn't mean we're stuck with Mo if this season ends with 2-4 wins.
Or maybe Hart would rather not be hired by a guy who may see the door in the next year. Your higher ups look like a strong possibilities to be cleaned out. Hart may just have decided not to go down with that ship.
Your chancellor has made some dumb moves, Hart would know that.
What idiot of a person would come in and fire Dave Hart. Hart just doesn’t want to work. That’s all it is.
So a guy makes nine bad decisions. You come in, you keeping number ten? Or do you go ahead and clean that out?
Further if you're Hart and trying to do a solid for a school and set them back up to succeed dealing with the fall out probably means a harder job for longer to right that skiff. The search kicks the can down the road till this summer, which could see a lot of changes. Hart still does the job and may end up being the one anyway. The only issue is your football coach. Fire him and hire a new guy? Then Hart's done his part and you just need a money raiser with good connections. Keep him one more year? Lose tickets, fire him and then let the new guy hire someone?
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10-26-2018 03:06 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-26-2018 03:06 PM)Foreverandever Wrote: (10-26-2018 01:02 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote: (10-26-2018 10:23 AM)Foreverandever Wrote: (10-26-2018 08:17 AM)Lethemeul Wrote: (10-26-2018 07:05 AM)The Autumn Wind Wrote: Are you a Prophet? What stocks should I buy? What are the powerball numbers?
Looks like you were correct.
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The way this has played out over the last week really makes it look like Hart was a done deal and then the proverbial 'something' happened and everything fell apart. Who knows what the 'something' is (I suspect the hang up was probably overall athletics funding and facility improvements and/or the Pirate Club slinging their wang around again to make sure they didn't become part of the athletics department).
Hopefully Staton putting all of his eggs in the Hart basket doesn't mean we're stuck with Mo if this season ends with 2-4 wins.
Or maybe Hart would rather not be hired by a guy who may see the door in the next year. Your higher ups look like a strong possibilities to be cleaned out. Hart may just have decided not to go down with that ship.
Your chancellor has made some dumb moves, Hart would know that.
What idiot of a person would come in and fire Dave Hart. Hart just doesn’t want to work. That’s all it is.
So a guy makes nine bad decisions. You come in, you keeping number ten? Or do you go ahead and clean that out?
Further if you're Hart and trying to do a solid for a school and set them back up to succeed dealing with the fall out probably means a harder job for longer to right that skiff. The search kicks the can down the road till this summer, which could see a lot of changes. Hart still does the job and may end up being the one anyway. The only issue is your football coach. Fire him and hire a new guy? Then Hart's done his part and you just need a money raiser with good connections. Keep him one more year? Lose tickets, fire him and then let the new guy hire someone?
Staton isn’t going anywhere in the foreseeable future. Whatever ECU fans post, his job really isn’t in immediate danger. Regardless, there is no reason to fire Hart. Hart has an extensive track record, and if ECU hires a new chancellor there is a 99% chance that Hart would be more established and respected than them. I don’t really like Staton, but he hasn’t really done anything wrong at ECU besides extend compher as soon as he was hired and say some not very strategic things.
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10-26-2018 11:28 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-21-2018 01:06 AM)PirateJP Wrote: (10-21-2018 01:02 AM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote: (10-21-2018 12:56 AM)PirateJP Wrote: (10-21-2018 12:46 AM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote: You do not want Butch Jones. Trust me!! Even though I have negative rep points because of ECU people. Do not hire this man. you're welcome in advance. I really admire what y'all have built without power conference affiliation in such a state as North Carolina;
I also wouldn't be opposed to Bill Clark
Bill Clark is a very good coach. I'm not a UAB supporter per say, but an anti Alabama supporter. Which is my reason for UAB support. But I agree with you on that. His ties are deep in that area, so not sure if he would leave.
Clark has shown a ton of loyalty to UAB and vice versa, i'm not sure what his salary is but I would imagine it would take quite a bit to lure him away.
he has said privately he will not leave unless its for a major program that he thinks he can turn into a playoff contender. I think he will get that offer this year. ECU does not fit that description.
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10-27-2018 02:29 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones as HC.
I really want to go young on this AD, unless we take Workman. For some reason, our fans get fixated on guys who they feel would love to spend the rest of their career here. I don't want anyone who's dream is to finish up in ENC. I don't mind taking someone who hasn't been the man somewhere else. Take a Deputy AD from a turnaround program like UCF and provide for him the platform to make his name and go somewhere bigger (and give us a buyout).
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10-27-2018 04:59 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
I don't agree that Jones wouldn't work at ECU or to avoid him because he's on the way down. He's the only Vols coach who enjoyed some success since Phillip Fulmer. Jones did win all three bowls that Tennessee played in during his tenure including the January 1, 2016 Outback Bowl. He can recruit well and bring along quality assistants. The SEC is a tough league. Remember Bret Bielema who left Wisconsin for Arkansas? We need all of our conference football programs stronger and more competitive and he would get it done IMO. I would welcome him to the AAC at any of our programs.
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10-27-2018 05:20 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(10-21-2018 12:29 AM)PirateMarv Wrote: (10-21-2018 12:18 AM)pesik Wrote: i was about to protest the butch hire..but after really thinking about it butch would be an amazing hire for ecu
i dont think the 1st year of a coach at a certain school should define them, so removing the 1st year at UT and Cincy ..he has had 8 good seasons to only 1 bad season..and is currently part of the machine that is bama
he would probably have ecu a regular, 7,8,9 win team and for ecu that would a great situation
He sounds like another Skip Holtz. Fwiw, ECU fired two coaches that routinely got them 7, 8 and 9 win teams and one of those guys was an alum. Of course I am talking about Steve Logan and Ruff McNeill. .
I think that the next hire at ECU is going to be a proven commodity like that Mike Houston at JMU, because he is familiar with North Carolina recruiting.
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11-29-2018 07:24 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
Butch is a decent hire. Solid coach (not near good enough to go up against SEC coaches week in and out) rah rah kind of guy that comes off as pretty cheesy. Hard worker, good recruiter but not my favorite coach that came through here.
If Butch is hired, he will most likely get ECU back to a 8 to 9 win seasons.
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11-29-2018 07:50 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
Butch will get it done with recruiting and hard work. I liked him at UC despite his hokey sayings. It will take him a year to install his system, so do not expect anything next year. Without a doubt, you will see a difference in recruiting as soon as he is hired.
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11-29-2018 08:03 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(11-29-2018 08:03 PM)rosewater Wrote: Butch will get it done with recruiting and hard work. I liked him at UC despite his hokey sayings. It will take him a year to install his system, so do not expect anything next year. Without a doubt, you will see a difference in recruiting as soon as he is hired.
I'm hoping for Houston. Either way, ECU is still somehow currently ranked #2 in AAC in recruiting despite losing 2 recruits today after coach Mo's firing.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC
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11-29-2018 08:19 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
We all know who we need as AD:
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11-29-2018 08:28 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(11-29-2018 08:19 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (11-29-2018 08:03 PM)rosewater Wrote: Butch will get it done with recruiting and hard work. I liked him at UC despite his hokey sayings. It will take him a year to install his system, so do not expect anything next year. Without a doubt, you will see a difference in recruiting as soon as he is hired.
I'm hoping for Houston. Either way, ECU is still somehow currently ranked #2 in AAC in recruiting despite losing 2 recruits today after coach Mo's firing.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC
The two we lost were two of the worst rated and worst offer lists. Helped our average a good bit actually.
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(11-29-2018 09:09 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote: (11-29-2018 08:19 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (11-29-2018 08:03 PM)rosewater Wrote: Butch will get it done with recruiting and hard work. I liked him at UC despite his hokey sayings. It will take him a year to install his system, so do not expect anything next year. Without a doubt, you will see a difference in recruiting as soon as he is hired.
I'm hoping for Houston. Either way, ECU is still somehow currently ranked #2 in AAC in recruiting despite losing 2 recruits today after coach Mo's firing.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC
The two we lost were two of the worst rated and worst offer lists. Helped our average a good bit actually.
At this writing, Memphis is number two with SMU preceding and ECU ensuing.
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11-29-2018 09:20 PM |
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RE: Rumor: Dave Hart to be ECU's full time AD & will bring in his boy Butch Jones ...
(11-29-2018 09:20 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (11-29-2018 09:09 PM)DowdyPirate2 Wrote: (11-29-2018 08:19 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote: (11-29-2018 08:03 PM)rosewater Wrote: Butch will get it done with recruiting and hard work. I liked him at UC despite his hokey sayings. It will take him a year to install his system, so do not expect anything next year. Without a doubt, you will see a difference in recruiting as soon as he is hired.
I'm hoping for Houston. Either way, ECU is still somehow currently ranked #2 in AAC in recruiting despite losing 2 recruits today after coach Mo's firing.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Footba...erence=AAC
The two we lost were two of the worst rated and worst offer lists. Helped our average a good bit actually.
At this writing, Memphis is number two with SMU preceding and ECU ensuing.
I see that it updated after my post but at least our average went up. If we can get a good coach here soon (Houston), he can come in & replace those low level recruits and it will be a blessing in disguise.
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