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RE: Trump To Honduras
(10-18-2018 02:18 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 01:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I can't believe you guys are still falling again for this same moronic cattle call.

Run for your lives...there's just no way we can stop this horde of frail women and children from invading our porous border! That Soros is such a genius!

03-lmfao

You won't mind if I just walk inside your house and borrow your television for a bit, snack a little, use your Wi-Fi, ohhh and by the way... I don't plan on leaving. That's cool yeah? I'm not even sure why you own a door really? Just take that bad boy off the hinges. You're good!

Okay drama queen. You'll notice that nowhere did I advocate that they should just be allowed to walk into the country and claim residence anywhere they want, didn't you?

Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.

But feel free to run around with your hair on fire like this is some sort of national crisis...all the while praying for their safety and needs, amirite?
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(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Okay drama queen. You'll notice that nowhere did I advocate that they should just be allowed to walk into the country and claim residence anywhere they want
So what do you want to happen to them once they step foot in the USA?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.
So what should we do with them when they don't show up for they asylum hearing or they are denied?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But feel free to run around with your hair on fire like this is some sort of national crisis...all the while praying for their safety and needs, amirite?

Walk through Guatemala and Mexico, I'm sure you would appreciate some prayers for your safety.
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(10-19-2018 10:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Okay drama queen. You'll notice that nowhere did I advocate that they should just be allowed to walk into the country and claim residence anywhere they want
So what do you want to happen to them once they step foot in the USA?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.
So what should we do with them when they don't show up for they asylum hearing or they are denied?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But feel free to run around with your hair on fire like this is some sort of national crisis...all the while praying for their safety and needs, amirite?

Walk through Guatemala and Mexico, I'm sure you would appreciate some prayers for your safety.

I already covered it. Follow the law, or send them back. This isn't an issue. Period.
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RE: Trump To Honduras
(10-19-2018 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 10:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Okay drama queen. You'll notice that nowhere did I advocate that they should just be allowed to walk into the country and claim residence anywhere they want
So what do you want to happen to them once they step foot in the USA?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.
So what should we do with them when they don't show up for they asylum hearing or they are denied?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But feel free to run around with your hair on fire like this is some sort of national crisis...all the while praying for their safety and needs, amirite?

Walk through Guatemala and Mexico, I'm sure you would appreciate some prayers for your safety.

I already covered it. Follow the law, or send them back. This isn't an issue. Period.

It was an issue for you during the 'zero tolerance' enforcement.
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(10-19-2018 11:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 10:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 10:08 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Okay drama queen. You'll notice that nowhere did I advocate that they should just be allowed to walk into the country and claim residence anywhere they want
So what do you want to happen to them once they step foot in the USA?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.
So what should we do with them when they don't show up for they asylum hearing or they are denied?

(10-19-2018 09:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  But feel free to run around with your hair on fire like this is some sort of national crisis...all the while praying for their safety and needs, amirite?

Walk through Guatemala and Mexico, I'm sure you would appreciate some prayers for your safety.

I already covered it. Follow the law, or send them back. This isn't an issue. Period.

It was an issue for you during the 'zero tolerance' enforcement.

Not quite sure what you're talking about, but if asylum seekers were denied asylum outside the law, then yes, I have an issue with that. As should you.
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RE: Trump To Honduras
TECUN UMAN, Guatemala (AP) — The Latest on a caravan of Central American migrants hoping to reach the United States (all times local):

11:50 a.m.

Thousands of migrants traveling in a caravan briefly moved toward a border crossing on the Mexico-Guatemala frontier before turning around.

They stopped about two blocks from the crossing before heading back, saying they would wait another hour or so. Some of them talked among themselves.

The border post is guarded by a heavy security force and tall metal gates. Dozens of Mexican federal police officers are on the border bridge, with hundreds more behind them.

Guatemala has closed its border gate and is standing guard with dozens of troops and two armored jeeps.

Mexico’s ambassador to Guatemala says his country has decided to enforce a policy of “metered entry” since thousands of migrants are clamoring to cross.

The migrants hope to enter Mexico and cross the country to reach the United States.

Jose Porfirio Orellana is a 47-year-old acorn and bean farmer from Yoro province in Honduras.

Orellana says “the economy in Honduras is terrible, there is nothing there.”

https://apnews.com/2ed245eb397a4d209a314...SocialFlow
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(10-19-2018 12:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  TECUN UMAN, Guatemala (AP) — The Latest on a caravan of Central American migrants hoping to reach the United States (all times local):

11:50 a.m.

Thousands of migrants traveling in a caravan briefly moved toward a border crossing on the Mexico-Guatemala frontier before turning around.

They stopped about two blocks from the crossing before heading back, saying they would wait another hour or so. Some of them talked among themselves.

The border post is guarded by a heavy security force and tall metal gates. Dozens of Mexican federal police officers are on the border bridge, with hundreds more behind them.

Guatemala has closed its border gate and is standing guard with dozens of troops and two armored jeeps.

Mexico’s ambassador to Guatemala says his country has decided to enforce a policy of “metered entry” since thousands of migrants are clamoring to cross.

The migrants hope to enter Mexico and cross the country to reach the United States.

Jose Porfirio Orellana is a 47-year-old acorn and bean farmer from Yoro province in Honduras.

Orellana says “the economy in Honduras is terrible, there is nothing there.”

https://apnews.com/2ed245eb397a4d209a314...SocialFlow

Looks like the threat to cut off the gravy train may be working. Remains to be seen if the Mexicans/Guatamalans can hold their ground.
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RE: Trump To Honduras
(10-19-2018 12:22 PM)VA49er Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 12:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  TECUN UMAN, Guatemala (AP) — The Latest on a caravan of Central American migrants hoping to reach the United States (all times local):

11:50 a.m.

Thousands of migrants traveling in a caravan briefly moved toward a border crossing on the Mexico-Guatemala frontier before turning around.

They stopped about two blocks from the crossing before heading back, saying they would wait another hour or so. Some of them talked among themselves.

The border post is guarded by a heavy security force and tall metal gates. Dozens of Mexican federal police officers are on the border bridge, with hundreds more behind them.

Guatemala has closed its border gate and is standing guard with dozens of troops and two armored jeeps.

Mexico’s ambassador to Guatemala says his country has decided to enforce a policy of “metered entry” since thousands of migrants are clamoring to cross.

The migrants hope to enter Mexico and cross the country to reach the United States.

Jose Porfirio Orellana is a 47-year-old acorn and bean farmer from Yoro province in Honduras.

Orellana says “the economy in Honduras is terrible, there is nothing there.”

https://apnews.com/2ed245eb397a4d209a314...SocialFlow

Looks like the threat to cut off the gravy train may be working. Remains to be seen if the Mexicans/Guatamalans can hold their ground.
They should bring buses and take them back to Honduras. Invoice the Honduran government for the cost.
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RE: Trump To Honduras
(10-19-2018 12:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  TECUN UMAN, Guatemala (AP) — The Latest on a caravan of Central American migrants hoping to reach the United States (all times local):

11:50 a.m.

Thousands of migrants traveling in a caravan briefly moved toward a border crossing on the Mexico-Guatemala frontier before turning around.

They stopped about two blocks from the crossing before heading back, saying they would wait another hour or so. Some of them talked among themselves.

The border post is guarded by a heavy security force and tall metal gates. Dozens of Mexican federal police officers are on the border bridge, with hundreds more behind them.

Guatemala has closed its border gate and is standing guard with dozens of troops and two armored jeeps.

Mexico’s ambassador to Guatemala says his country has decided to enforce a policy of “metered entry” since thousands of migrants are clamoring to cross.

The migrants hope to enter Mexico and cross the country to reach the United States.

Jose Porfirio Orellana is a 47-year-old acorn and bean farmer from Yoro province in Honduras.

Orellana says “the economy in Honduras is terrible, there is nothing there.”

https://apnews.com/2ed245eb397a4d209a314...SocialFlow

So what's Orellana's basis for claiming asylum?
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Breaking through the fence at the Mexican border as I post.
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(10-19-2018 01:09 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Breaking through the fence at the Mexican border as I post.

Is it on TV?
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(10-19-2018 01:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 01:09 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Breaking through the fence at the Mexican border as I post.

Is it on TV?

FoxNews just showed a live vid of it.
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Just in time for the midterms, so the NPCs can squeal about evil orange man putting chillren in cages, even though they are obviously economic migrant men in their 20's.
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(10-19-2018 01:28 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 01:25 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 01:09 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Breaking through the fence at the Mexican border as I post.

Is it on TV?

FoxNews just showed a live vid of it.

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Here is some earlier video:



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Funny this all started when Dims were stating concerns about the Latino vote.


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Waving the flags of the countries they are "fleeing"


Lol. Good luck texas
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Quote:(CIUDAD HIDALGO, Mexico) — Despite Mexican efforts to stop them at the border, a growing throng of Central American migrants resumed their advance toward the U.S. border early Sunday in southern Mexico.

Their numbers swelled to about 5,000 overnight and at first light they set out walking toward the Mexican town of Tapachula, 10 abreast in a line stretching approximately a mile (1.5 kilometers).

It was not immediately clear where the additional travelers had materialized from since about 2,000 gathered on the Mexican side Saturday night. They seemed likely to be people who had been waiting on the bridge over the Suchiate River or in the Guatemalan town of Tecun Uman and who decided to cross during the night.

At dawn there were still an estimated 1,500 migrants on the Guatemalan side hoping to enter legally.

They marched on through Mexico like a rag tag army of the poor, shouting triumphantly slogans like “Si se pudo!” or “Yes, we could!”

As they passed through Mexican villages on the outskirts of Ciudad Hidalgo, they drew applause, cheers and donations of food and clothing from Mexicans.

Maria Teresa Orellana, a resident of the neighborhood of Lorenzo handed out free sandals to the migrants as they passed. “It’s solidarity,” she said. “They’re our brothers.”

Olivin Castellanos, 58, a truck driver and mason from Villanueva, Honduras, said he took a raft across the river after Mexico blocked the bridge. “No one will stop us, only God,” he said. “We knocked down the door and we continue walking.” He wants to reach the U.S. to work. “I can do this,” he said, pointing to the asphalt under his feet. “I’ve made highways.”

The migrants, who said they gave up trying to enter Mexico legally because the asylum application process was too slow, gathered Saturday at a park in the border city of Ciudad Hidalgo. They voted by a show of hands to continue north en masse, then marched to the bridge crossing the Suchiate River and urged those still on it to come join them.

The decision to re-form the migrant caravan capped a day in which Mexican authorities again refused mass entry to migrants on the bridge, instead accepting small groups for asylum processing and giving out 45-day visitor permits to some. Authorities handed out numbers for people to be processed in a strategy seen before at U.S. border posts when dealing with large numbers of migrants.

But many became impatient and circumventing the border gate, crossing the river on rafts, by swimming or by wading in full view of the hundreds of Mexican police manning the blockade on the bridge. Some paid locals the equivalent of $1.25 to ferry them across the muddy waters. They were not detained on reaching the Mexican bank.

Sairy Bueso, a 24-year old Honduran mother of two, was another migrant who abandoned the bridge and crossed into Mexico via the river. She clutched her 2-year-old daughter Dayani, who had recently had a heart operation, as she got off a raft.

“The girl suffered greatly because of all the people crowded” on the bridge, Bueso said. “There are risks that we must take for the good of our children.”

In addition to those who crossed the river, immigration agents processed migrants in small groups and then bused them to an open-air, metal-roof fairground in Tapachula, where the Red Cross set up small blue tents on the concrete floor.

Mexico’s Interior Department said it had received 640 refugee requests by Hondurans at the border crossing. It released photos of migrants getting off buses at a shelter and receiving food and medical attention.

At least half a dozen migrants fainted in the crush.

Some tore open a fence on the Guatemala side of the bridge and threw two young children, perhaps age 6 or 7, and their mother into the muddy waters about 40 feet below. They were rafted to safety in on the Mexican bank.

Mexican workers handed food and bottled water to the migrants on the bridge. Through the bars, a doctor gave medical attention to a woman who feared her young son was running a fever.

Sustenance also came from Guatemalan locals — for Carlos Martinez, a 24-year-old from Santa Barbara, Honduras, the plate of chicken with rice was the first bite to eat he’d had all day.

“It is a blessing that they have given us food,” Martinez said. “It gives me courage to keep waiting, as long as I can.”

Migrants cited widespread poverty and gang violence in Honduras, one of the world’s deadliest nations by homicide rate, as their reasons for joining the caravan.

Juan Carlos Mercado, 20, from Santa Barbara, Honduras, says corruption and a lack of jobs in Honduras has stymied him. “We just want to move ahead with our lives,” he said Sunday. He said he’d do any kind of work.

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(10-19-2018 07:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Waving the flags of the countries they are "fleeing"


Lol. Good luck texas

Exactly. It's pathetic. Invading armies usually have their standard bearer in front waving their flag. This is the same thing. If they love their country so much why are they leaving it. If my country was mistreating me I sure wouldn't be waving its flag.

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Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.

If they're seeking asylum why not stay in Mexico. I know why. "Porque no son pendejos"...because they aren't stupid. The Liberals are the pendejos.
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(10-21-2018 02:57 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(10-19-2018 07:09 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Waving the flags of the countries they are "fleeing"


Lol. Good luck texas

Exactly. It's pathetic. Invading armies usually have their standard bearer in front waving their flag. This is the same thing. If they love their country so much why are they leaving it. If my country was mistreating me I sure wouldn't be waving its flag.

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Any and all that qualify, should be afforded asylum through the normal channels. That's it.


If they're seeking asylum why not stay in Mexico. I know why. "Porque no son pendejos"...because they aren't stupid. The Liberals are the pendejos.

Look at their actions entering Mexico. Are we supposed to believe they will patiently wait in line at the US-Mexico border and they file the proper paperwork and show up to the hearings for their asylum in the US? Hell no they won't. They should be bussed straight to a waiting C-17 and flown back to Honduras.
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