Does anyone think he has lost at least a half step since the terrible injury he suffered.

(10-15-2018 07:20 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Does anyone think he has lost at least a half step since the terrible injury he suffered.

No, new QB is the issue IMO.

(10-15-2018 07:20 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Does anyone think he has lost at least a half step since the terrible injury he suffered.

Cody is as good as ever. Our QB's are not. We have been blessed for the last several years with Phillip and Logan, who could go through progressions and pick out the open receivers. Both of our QB's this year lock on the primary and that is pretty much it. Mitch in particular will get happy feet and start running if the primary is covered. He is a good runner, but we are basically wasting one of the best groups of receivers in the nation because our QB can't find the open man. There is always at least one open receiver. Not sure if this can be corrected this season, especially with our OL.

(10-15-2018 07:31 PM)RangerRocket Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 07:20 PM)Springboromark Wrote:  Does anyone think he has lost at least a half step since the terrible injury he suffered.

No, new QB is the issue IMO.

I agree. I also think the team is not playing to its strength-the receiving corp.
Need to open it up. Taking too long to get the FB into the hands of the playmakers.
12 receptions against EMU is ridiculous.

Too many empty routes.
Too many empty hand offs.
This offensive juggernaut has been left waiting.
So are the fans.

I Logan Woodside were still here and if the O-line were a little better, the stats would astronomical.

I agree that probably the best WR corp in team history is being wasted this year. You have to remember that almost every time our QB runs that is a play that with better pass protection would have been a pass---so in a sense the WR corps is being short changed by poor pass protection. OTOH it is a good thing the QB can run because (without looking up the stats) I am guessing he is our leading rusher by a mile because the run blocking has also left much to be desired for much of this season.

none of this really explains why we haven't done more short lateral passes to get the ball in the hands of our most explosive playmakers in space more often, plus force the defensive line to run more chasing plays and take some gusto out the pass rush. this is especially perplexing because thompson is also a great blocker out there.

(10-15-2018 09:54 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I agree that probably the best WR corp in team history is being wasted this year. You have to remember that almost every time our QB runs that is a play that with better pass protection would have been a pass---so in a sense the WR corps is being short changed by poor pass protection. OTOH it is a good thing the QB can run because (without looking up the stats) I am guessing he is our leading rusher by a mile because the run blocking has also left much to be desired for much of this season.

I don’t think Mitch runs necessarily because the blocking is so bad. I think he has been a run first QB probably since his youth days and nobody has really taught him how to throw in the pocket

(10-16-2018 01:46 AM)pono Wrote:  none of this really explains why we haven't done more short lateral passes to get the ball in the hands of our most explosive playmakers in space more often, plus force the defensive line to run more chasing plays and take some gusto out the pass rush. this is especially perplexing because thompson is also a great blocker out there.

This pretty much nails my thoughts on the matter. I wasn't able to see any of the EMU or Fresno games, but this is generally how I have felt while watching the offense in the other games.

If we have a running QB and run a screen game where we dink and dunk teams to death? We will be unstoppable and the most frustrating team in the country for opposing fans. Those screen throws aren't easy and I feel we will throw too many incompletes. DM-L, Dionte and Phillips would be awesome in that offense.

We have way too many weapons on offense to not be able to throw for at least 300 yards per game, but we're not getting it done. We lack experience at QB. Peters has the better arm, but no real experience until the BG game. Mitch feels the heat too quickly and looks to run. He's done a great job with his feet, but he's also missing open receivers, often his 2nd or 3rd option. It's not unusual to see him take off if his primary receiver is covered. Woodside constantly looked for his 2nd or 3rd option, and the passing game flourished because of it.

Cody Thompson...UNDERUTILIZED. 3 catches vs. EMU & didn't get his first one until late into the game, that's a sin.

(10-16-2018 11:03 PM)inductchuck16 Wrote:  Cody Thompson...UNDERUTILIZED. 3 catches vs. EMU & didn't get his first one until late into the game, that's a sin.

all of the big 3 are underutilized. in fact with the 3 most accomplished single group of receivers in NCAA history (by the numbers) on the most important play of the game we ran a play for our #5 receiver who had a shot at the catch but didn't go after it aggressively.

as for guadagni, most qbs need experience to move quickly through their progressions. on top of that guadagni does not release the ball quickly. i mean, i like his game as a running qb. he brings some things to the table, but he is not a natural passer and he will need more games to have the comfort level and (hopefully) the football intellect to know where to look when his 1st option seems to be covered. woodside had a great feel for the passing game. average arm. average feet. threw an average ball. but a gift for seeing the passing game unfold instantaneously.

(10-17-2018 02:37 AM)pono Wrote:  as for guadagni, most qbs need experience to move quickly through their progressions. on top of that guadagni does not release the ball quickly. i mean, i like his game as a running qb. he brings some things to the table, but he is not a natural passer and he will need more games to have the comfort level and (hopefully) the football intellect to know where to look when his 1st option seems to be covered. woodside had a great feel for the passing game. average arm. average feet. threw an average ball. but a gift for seeing the passing game unfold instantaneously.

That's certainly a major problem with mobile QB's early in their careers. They feel more comfortable taking off if their primary receiver is recovered. Problem is that he is a 4th year junior, but he really lacked much game experience before this season so despite being his 4th year in the program he is still very raw and inexperienced. He is the most experienced QB we have though. That's the problem you have when you're defense isn't good enough to bring in your backup QB much in the 2nd half in games your offense has scored over 35 points. Too often last year we had to keep Woodside in the game too long because we weren't sure if the defense would let the other team back in the game.