Dear Friends,
Bowling Green coach fired after loss to Western Michigan.

(10-14-2018 03:28 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Bowling Green coach fired after loss to Western Michigan.

Wow. They got spoiled with Dino Babers.

(10-14-2018 04:12 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:28 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Bowling Green coach fired after loss to Western Michigan.

Wow. They got spoiled with Dino Babers.

The problem with Babers was simple:

1). He is very good, but

2). He wouldn't have stayed.

The good thing about CC is that he stays in a job for long while.

(10-14-2018 04:57 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 04:12 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:28 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Bowling Green coach fired after loss to Western Michigan.

Wow. They got spoiled with Dino Babers.

The problem with Babers was simple:

1). He is very good, but

2). He wouldn't have stayed.

The good thing about CC is that he stays in a job for long while.

If Creighton would have had the quick success that Babers had, he would have been gone as well. Every single coach in the MAC is hoping to do well in order to move on to a bigger job and more $$$. (Maybe with the exception of Solich at Ohio)

Creighton isn't still here because of his love of EMU. He's still here because he hasn't won enough. Simple as that.

Congratulations to him, and a big pat on the back, when/if he gets his bigger opportunity.

(10-14-2018 05:07 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 04:57 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 04:12 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:28 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Bowling Green coach fired after loss to Western Michigan.

Wow. They got spoiled with Dino Babers.

The problem with Babers was simple:

1). He is very good, but

2). He wouldn't have stayed.

The good thing about CC is that he stays in a job for long while.

If Creighton would have had the quick success that Babers had, he would have been gone as well. Every single coach in the MAC is hoping to do well in order to move on to a bigger job and more $$$. (Maybe with the exception of Solich at Ohio)

Creighton isn't still here because of his love of EMU. He's still here because he hasn't won enough. Simple as that.

Congratulations to him, and a big pat on the back, when/if he gets his bigger opportunity.

Tough I love Creighton and want him to stay here forever BUT you are 100% correct. After the much ballyhooed 2016 season, had he picked up 8-9 wins in 2017 & 2018 we could color him gone. I would not blame him a bit if he could increase his salary by multiples.

I think the difference here is that Creighton knew this was a 5-year project and was willing to take on that task.

(10-14-2018 07:13 PM)masttg Wrote:  I think the difference here is that Creighton knew this was a 5-year project and was willing to take on that task.

I thought his Initial contract was for six

https://projects.newsday.com/college-foo...creighton/

Well, he still has until 2022 to get it done with his extension. I don't see us firing him if we stay competitive, grow attendance, and our GSR keeps going up/staying high.

(10-15-2018 02:05 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:13 PM)masttg Wrote:  I think the difference here is that Creighton knew this was a 5-year project and was willing to take on that task.

I thought his Initial contract was for six

OK. That wasn't the point. I mean, Mike Jenks signed a contract that was for much longer than 2.5 years--but he did not get 5 (or 6!) years to get the team rolling.
My point was that every coach knew that EMU would not be competitive for several years and Creighton took on that job. He knew there was an almost 0% chance of having a winning record by year two. That wasn't the case for the recent hires at: WMU, CMU, BGSU or even after Hazell at Kent.

(10-15-2018 08:11 AM)EMU_HRM07 Wrote:  Well, he still has until 2022 to get it done with his extension. I don't see us firing him if we stay competitive, grow attendance, and our GSR keeps going up/staying high.

I think the good news is that he will be around to kickstart the Championship Building program. I think his current staff will stick with him in the hopes that when he leaves for a larger payday they will go with him and cash in as well. I don't see anyone on the current staff that is a young CC clone that would stay and steer the ship in the direction that CC has it sailing. I think our DC would make a good head coach but would need a solid OC to assist him. Also we would want to retain our strength and conditioning staff. I don't see a 7-5 record getting him the high offers if that's where we end up this year. And I think we will need at least a 7-5 to get another bowl bid hopefully one that wouldn't cost more money than we take in. Either way CC has laid a solid foundation for whoever follows him as head coach.

Didn't they also leave a player behind at the hospital after an away game? No coaches stayed at all. Not a great look by a coach either.

(10-15-2018 09:22 AM)JonesGoddard Wrote:  Didn't they also leave a player behind at the hospital after an away game? No coaches stayed at all. Not a great look by a coach either.

Yes. https://macprospectus.com/2018/10/15/mik...-football/

Humans show the infinite capacity to make knuckle head plays (do stupid things or fail to do obvious things).

Yes, an asst coach should have stayed with him, taken him to the airport, etc. etc. when the player was to come back home. Literally be a caregiver or surrogate parent.

Why is a player on his own? It's not like he's a NFL player and the team says, "We'll reimburse you for any expenses, etc. after you get back."

(10-15-2018 08:11 AM)EMU_HRM07 Wrote:  Well, he still has until 2022 to get it done with his extension. I don't see us firing him if we stay competitive, grow attendance, and our GSR keeps going up/staying high.

I am a Coach Creighton fan and I am of the opinion he should get as much time as he needs to turn our football program into a consistant winner. That’s just how I feel. I don’t see EMU firing him unless one of two things happen:

1. Coach Creighton brings bad press/publicity to EMU because of poor behavior on or off the field - ala Ron English, or
2. The football program never becomes a winning program and endures multiple seasons of abject mediocrity.

EMU is not an institution that fires a coach for a losing season or a season that has started out poorly. EMU has always fired coaches because of poor personal behavior or, potentially, poor program oversight (NCAA ot MAC rules infractions). EMU is pretty patient with its coaches and that is both a blessing and a curse. As for me, I am glad EMU errs on the side of giving a coach the time to build her/his own team. That way, success or failure is totally on the coach and the athletes the coach recruited.


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Amen. I think our patience has finally turned out to be an asset.

(10-15-2018 02:16 PM)Block_E Wrote:  Amen. I think our patience has finally turned out to be an asset.

FB + MBB.

We are the pre-season west favorite in the MAC West men's basketball.

Does BG have any recruits worth poaching?

(10-16-2018 09:29 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Does BG have any recruits worth poaching?

Maybe one at Safety from Detroit that we offered:

https://247sports.com/player/jordan-anderson-46046855/

Didn't Purdue's coach get an extension...
After losing to EMU?

(10-15-2018 02:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-15-2018 02:16 PM)Block_E Wrote:  Amen. I think our patience has finally turned out to be an asset.

FB + MBB.

We are the pre-season west favorite in the MAC West men's basketball.

I believe the jury is still out for both Creighton and Murphy. Certainly Murphy has underperformed to our expectations and Creighton has probably matched our expectations. For football, based on our history, the majority will be satisfied if EMU goes to a bowl game every couple of seasons. I feel we let a golden opportunity slip thru our hands by not winning the MAC West......if only Glass had started every game.

In basketball, our expectation should be to win the MAC West every 3rd season and win the MAC conference title every 4th season.

The expectations are different between basketball and football which is primarily a big factor on why we don't win consistently in football.