This argument is getting more and more attention since the Kavanaugh hearings:

America's House of Lords is about to decide the future of the Supreme Court.
- "A president who wasn’t elected, in other words, is poised to fill a second seat on the Supreme Court, despite the fact that his party represents only a minority of the country in the Senate."

The Supreme Court is facing a legitimacy crisis - and we know whose fault that is
- "Today, we have a president elected by a minority of voters appointing justices confirmed by a Senate with a majority elected by a minority of voters, who will issue rulings supported by a minority of voters."

Yes, the Supreme Court is facing a legitimacy crisis.
- "And today, we have a president elected by a minority of voters appointing justices confirmed by a Senate with a majority elected by a minority of voters."

Another big Democratic loss. And yet more complaints about a ‘rigged’ system.
- " GOP-dominated states are increasingly passing things with the backing of a minority of Americans behind them"

In my opinion, the appropriate response is:

"Angela Merkel was never elected with more than 42% of the popular vote. In 2017 she got 33% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"

"Theresa May was elected with 42% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"

"Justin Trudeau was elected with 39% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"

"Vladimir Putin was elected with 63% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"

(10-14-2018 10:07 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  In my opinion, the appropriate response is:
"Angela Merkel was never elected with more than 42% of the popular vote. In 2017 she got 33% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"
"Theresa May was elected with 42% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"
"Justin Trudeau was elected with 39% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"
"Vladimir Putin was elected with 63% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"

Exactly. And check the likes of Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe and Chairman Mao.

(10-14-2018 10:07 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  In my opinion, the appropriate response is:

"Angela Merkel was never elected with more than 42% of the popular vote. In 2017 she got 33% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"

"Theresa May was elected with 42% of the popular vote. Is she legitimate?"

"Justin Trudeau was elected with 39% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"

"Vladimir Putin was elected with 63% of the popular vote. Is he legitimate?"

Never mind these foreigners, Bill Clinton got 43% in 1992. Was he legitimate?

Not sure what bitching is going to do. Propose a constitutional amendment

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(10-14-2018 11:45 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Not sure what bitching is going to do. Propose a constitutional amendment

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I think that they will have a difficult time selling an amendment that states that unless its' controlled by liberal Democrats it is not legitimate. Because that is exactly their thought (and I use the word loosely!) process.

The left's latest argument is the same as all their other arguments.

Again, let's address the real issue here. If any of their constituents actually had studied our form of government and how the checks and balances system worked and how and why the electoral college was established, and how large cities (which is what this is more than blue states) versus the rest of the country needs balance, then this would be a moot talking point.

But, because of the abhorrent ignorance of the last 30 years' worth of public education participants, they have an audience for this nonsense. Mob rule exists really only where people can't think for themselves because they haven't been trained to think.

What is happening today is no accident. It is the byproduct of a failed and oft times ignored public education system which needs to be abandoned by the Federal Government and have its oversight returned to the States, and to the local communities. We can't afford to have the left educating our children anywhere!

(10-14-2018 01:37 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Again, let's address the real issue here. If any of their constituents actually had studied our form of government and how the checks and balances system worked and how and why the electoral college was established, and how large cities (which is what this is more than blue states) versus the rest of the country needs balance, then this would be a moot talking point.

But, because of the abhorrent ignorance of the last 30 years' worth of public education participants, they have an audience for this nonsense. Mob rule exists really only where people can't think for themselves because they haven't been trained to think.

What is happening today is no accident. It is the byproduct of a failed and oft times ignored public education system which needs to be abandoned by the Federal Government and have its oversight returned to the States, and to the local communities. We can't afford to have the left educating our children anywhere!

XACLY!

it's disturbing how it's played out since LBJ....

Did they forget how they tried to get electorals to not cast the votes for Trump?

Remember in 2016 whenever the dems thought they were going to win both the Senate and the Presidency? That was fun. Now they're talking about abolishing the electoral college, Houses of Lords, and court-packing.

When you can't win, change the rules!

(10-14-2018 02:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Did they forget how they tried to get electorals to not cast the votes for Trump?

too many have either forgotten that or never had a fk'n clue.....

(10-14-2018 02:13 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Did they forget how they tried to get electorals to not cast the votes for Trump?

too many have either forgotten that or never had a fk'n clue.....

What was even better was that Hillary lost five electoral votes, including one to Bernie Sanders.

(10-14-2018 02:21 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:13 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:12 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Did they forget how they tried to get electorals to not cast the votes for Trump?

too many have either forgotten that or never had a fk'n clue.....

What was even better was that Hillary lost five electoral votes, including one to Bernie Sanders.

which was icing on the top....