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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 02:49 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 02:43 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  It be fair . .the title does say OFF TOPIC (OT) .. maybe he just stopped reading there and thought it was a thread for randomness.

I will say this for the last time. If you go to page 4 and read the statement I posted about UCONN always talking about the BIG or the ACC, then why don't they just leave for the Big East. I even wished them well and thought they should have gotten the nod over Rutgers. Even said it was a bit harsh, and that I didn't intend for that. I was attacked for being a Tennessee fan. I usually let things go, but HuskyU is a straight up troll. If you can't see that, then I'm speechless. Page 4 is very much in tact, so all you have to do is read, instead of posting half witted garbage. I'm a Memphis fan too, so that's why I post here.

Why doesn't UConn leave for the Big East? Why would we? First off, we like that game with the brown oblong ball (even though we stink at it). Second, until we know the details of the next TV contract, that would be a terrible move. I expect that the AAC's next TV deal will be better than the Big East's and within five years I am guessing that the Big East and AAC will be about equal in basketball (or close to it).

Culturally, UConn fits more with the largely public universities of the AAC than with the Catholic schools of the Big East. So, unless the ACC or Big Ten come calling (and they haven't yet), UConn is perfectly cool with our current conference. POW6R, baby!
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give them the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 03:11 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 01:17 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 12:14 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 11:52 AM)Def Berkkat Wrote:  
(10-17-2018 06:06 PM)johnbragg Wrote:  Y'all are adorable. We'll be in MSG until they build a new one, and then we'll probably be there.

And no, we wouldn't be a "P6" if we hadn't split from you guys. We'd probably still be a top 6 basketball league, I think--there's only so much damage that a half-dozen RPI anchors in a conference of 18-20 would do. But the idea that somehow

A. The Big East is in danger of losing MSG to the Big Ten and
B. The Big East would be in a better position to hold MSG against the Big Ten as a hybrid almost-major conference with you guys?

That's adorable.

Oh, and I'll throw in the idea somebody had that Aresco should be calling up Georgetown and seeing if they'll defect. We have a better chance of getting UConn to the Big East, and that's not happening either.

Enjoy.

EDIT: Oh, and the false narrative that Tulane was so terrible that they caused the split is more our fault than anyone else's. Apologies, Green Wave nation.

LOL... Check out the St. John's guy coming in here and shoving us around!

What's next? A DePaul guy claiming that the reason the B1G wants in MSG is that THEY scared them out of Chicago.

WSU recently landed a solid 4* recruit out of the NE. A bunch of schools were also going after him. One of other schools was Seton Hall. I dropped by the SHU forum to check out their convo on the kid, post decision. I was amazed at the sh*t talk on WSU, and the elevation/perception of SHU relative WSU. This, in spite of the fact that via a laundry list of comparatives - NCAA’s appearances, S16’s, E8’s, FF’s, MBB budget and revenue, coaching staff salaries, facility capacity, game attendance - where WSU was the superior program, many times drastically so. Like... you’d have to dig REAL hard to find a crack where SHU trumps WSU.

There’s just some weird state of narcosis that some BE programs and their fans live in.

I feel like Villanova and Georgetown can brag at least a little bit based on their histories (Villanova can brag a lot lately, but let's remember that they weren't at the top of the league when programs like UConn, Syracuse, Pitt, Notre Dame, WVU, and Louisville were regularly on their schedule). St. John's had some major success in the 80's and 90's, so while I don't think they should brag much as now, I at least respect their program and sort of get it.

Seton Hall and Providence fans, however, are the worst when it comes to bragging. You would think that both schools have had the historic success of Kentucky or North Carolina based on the drivel coming out of the mouths of their fans. Both are small Catholic schools that need to make themselves feel important even if they have never been all that important (looking at you Seton Hall) or haven't been important in a long time (looking at you Providence).

F-Villanova. I'm still pissed Massamino got away with two of his guards snorting coke during the final four. Cheatin' bastard.

Three teams from the final four were big east teams. The fourth of course, from the Metro. MEMPHIS STATE!
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 03:16 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.

Let me get this straight. You live in Memphis. You go to Memphis football games, but you're a Tennessee Vol basketball fan?

I thought the hated Memphis sports fans did just the opposite. You know, Memphis B-Ball (real good) / Vawls F-Ball (real bad).
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 03:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:16 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.

Let me get this straight. You live in Memphis. You go to Memphis football games, but you're a Tennessee Vol basketball fan?

I thought the hated Memphis sports fans did just the opposite. You know, Memphis B-Ball (real good) / Vawls F-Ball (real bad).

You're doing this all wrong . . .

Ask him what he thinks of Penny 05-stirthepot
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 09:38 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:16 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.

Let me get this straight. You live in Memphis. You go to Memphis football games, but you're a Tennessee Vol basketball fan?

I thought the hated Memphis sports fans did just the opposite. You know, Memphis B-Ball (real good) / Vawls F-Ball (real bad).

You're doing this all wrong . . .

Ask him what he thinks of Penny 05-stirthepot

I know Penny. It will take him a while to get things turned around. I literally work in Wilder Tower. I'm all Vol no matter what. But I love the hometown team. Is that a bad thing? I guess so. But if you took the people that support Memphis athletics that are UT or Ole Miss supporters (first) away, you really wouldn't like attendance numbers. Just saying. Not even trying to be that guy. But this is true. I would never wear orange to a Tiger game unless they were playing UT, but the way some of y'all treat some of us who are those fans, I would seriously consider wearing orange to the next home game. Y'all are truly in denial of what true fans are. You can come find me in section 101, row 52 at any home game, and I will not be wearing orange out of respect. But Jesus, get a grip on reality of the true numbers of your fanbase.
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-18-2018 03:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:16 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.

Let me get this straight. You live in Memphis. You go to Memphis football games, but you're a Tennessee Vol basketball fan?

I thought the hated Memphis sports fans did just the opposite. You know, Memphis B-Ball (real good) / Vawls F-Ball (real bad).

Regardless of how bad UT is in football or basketball, trying to compare the size of fan support is futile. I say this as someone who thinks UCF is being screwed over by the media. I do not root for the SEC, I root for UT. Do not confuse that as blind support for the SEC, though I'm sure you already did. So that's your own damn fault for doing so.
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The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.
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(10-21-2018 03:23 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.

Cities/venues bid to host the AAC tourney. Orlando, Memphis, and Hartford weren't chosen at random. They hosted because they produced the best bids. Dallas is getting a shot for the same reason. Tell Temple/Philly to pony up if you want the tourney at the Palestra.
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RE: OT: Delany/Big Ten trying to push Big East out of MSG
(10-21-2018 03:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:23 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.

Cities/venues bid to host the AAC tourney. Orlando, Memphis, and Hartford weren't chosen at random. They hosted because they produced the best bids. Dallas is getting a shot for the same reason. Tell Temple/Philly to pony up if you want the tourney at the Palestra.

I personally don’t care if they have the conference tournament in Philly or not; but Dallas and Hartford are geographic outliers. Physically Memphis makes the most sense as a central location. But the American suffers from far flung schools and lack of history when it comes to basketball. From my perspective there are two alternatives:
1. Play in NYC. I’ve stated before that I don’t get the appeal but other posters here as well as the ACC and B10 think it’s important.
2. Play the first two rounds at the higher seeds home arena. This will guarantee enthusiastic crowds. Again, others have said this is a small time solution but how big time is Temple v UConn playing in front of 1200 in Dallas? Meanwhile at Temple or UConn would guarantee 7,000+.
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(10-21-2018 03:51 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:23 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.

Cities/venues bid to host the AAC tourney. Orlando, Memphis, and Hartford weren't chosen at random. They hosted because they produced the best bids. Dallas is getting a shot for the same reason. Tell Temple/Philly to pony up if you want the tourney at the Palestra.

I personally don’t care if they have the conference tournament in Philly or not; but Dallas and Hartford are geographic outliers. Physically Memphis makes the most sense as a central location. But the American suffers from far flung schools and lack of history when it comes to basketball. From my perspective there are two alternatives:
1. Play in NYC. I’ve stated before that I don’t get the appeal but other posters here as well as the ACC and B10 think it’s important.
2. Play the first two rounds at the higher seeds home arena. This will guarantee enthusiastic crowds. Again, others have said this is a small time solution but how big time is Temple v UConn playing in front of 1200 in Dallas? Meanwhile at Temple or UConn would guarantee 7,000+.

I completely agree that Hartford and Orlando were not good choices, but when the rest of the our conference members/member cities don't wanna step up and throw their hat in the ring, you gotta do the best with what you got.

As far as Dallas is concerned, I think the new arena (and them paying good $ to get a high quality event) as well as proximity to Wichita/SMU/Houston/Tulsa made them an obvious experimental choice.
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Despite being on the conference's western edge, Fort Worth isn't an outlier for the purposes of hosting a tournament. The only real center of gravity the conference has is in its southwest corner, and putting the tournament in north Texas puts half the conference in position where you can drive there over the course of a morning to make an afternoon game. Once you have to hop on a plane to get to the tournament, it doesn't really matter how far of a flight it is - it's generally something you're committing to well in advance and making a major financial investment in, so while Memphis is geographically closer to UConn and Temple and U_F, it's no easier to get to than Dallas (more difficult, probably, since Dallas is a major airline hub). My guess is that if this conference has any hope at a sustainable single-site basketball tournament putting down roots, the Dallas-Fort Worth area is the best shot.
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Memphis and Cincinnati arethe best locations for the tournament year in and year out. One satisfies the western schools, and the other satisfies the eastern schools, who actually bring people to the tournaments. Not sure of the distance between Stoors and Philly from Cincinnati, but I'm assuming it's closer than Orlando. The Fort Worth experiment won't do that well IMO, but I'm hopeful this upcoming year in Memphis will be better than Hartford and Orlando have done the last couple of years.
I'm assuming the reason Cincy hasn't been selected yet is because of the state of US Bank Arena, but I'm not really sure on that particular subject. Maybe some Bearcat fans could clarify.
P.S. The new 5/3 Arena looks great! Very creative in how they went about renovating a square box. But it looks very aesthetically pleasing from the inside. UC is doing a fantastic job upgrading on campus facilities. Just wish Memphis had that same kind of vision.
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Who had the most fans in Orlando? WSU was certainly at the top, and we had to hop on a plane. There will be plenty of WSU fans in Memphis this year and tons in Ft. Worth the years after. And there would be plenty of WSU fans in Philly if the Palestra was the spot. That would be a great spot, btw. What's more American for the AAC than the City of Brotherly Love, where America began?
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Oh God we're doing this again.

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(10-21-2018 04:00 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:51 PM)vick mike Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:34 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-21-2018 03:23 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.

Cities/venues bid to host the AAC tourney. Orlando, Memphis, and Hartford weren't chosen at random. They hosted because they produced the best bids. Dallas is getting a shot for the same reason. Tell Temple/Philly to pony up if you want the tourney at the Palestra.

I personally don’t care if they have the conference tournament in Philly or not; but Dallas and Hartford are geographic outliers. Physically Memphis makes the most sense as a central location. But the American suffers from far flung schools and lack of history when it comes to basketball. From my perspective there are two alternatives:
1. Play in NYC. I’ve stated before that I don’t get the appeal but other posters here as well as the ACC and B10 think it’s important.
2. Play the first two rounds at the higher seeds home arena. This will guarantee enthusiastic crowds. Again, others have said this is a small time solution but how big time is Temple v UConn playing in front of 1200 in Dallas? Meanwhile at Temple or UConn would guarantee 7,000+.

I completely agree that Hartford and Orlando were not good choices, but when the rest of the our conference members/member cities don't wanna step up and throw their hat in the ring, you gotta do the best with what you got.

As far as Dallas is concerned, I think the new arena (and them paying good $ to get a high quality event) as well as proximity to Wichita/SMU/Houston/Tulsa made them an obvious experimental choice.

The Philly Palaestra argument has some merit, as does the the Dallas proximity to other schools. I like the ideas of early rounds in home arenas. Have the AAC 'Final 4" at a permanent location to build up the event.
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(10-21-2018 03:23 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The AAC has done a horrible job with its basketball tournament. There's a long list of conference tournaments I'd rather go to than ours. I went once, it was dead.

The conference is more concerned with appearing "power" than it is with building a culture that will help make it a power conference. They play in giant arenas to say hey look, we're big time, too, but it makes for a horrible event. The tournament should have debuted at the Palestra, a tournament that would have helped tremendously building a serious basketball brand. All these traditional programs, UConn, Memphis, Temple, Cincinnati, Tulsa, Houston playing in a rocking Palestra would be outstanding for the image of AAC hoops. Instead, they insist on Hartford and Memphis and Dallas, and it'll never be the event it could be. It'll never draw more than hardcore fans outside of the host city. No one is going to fly to Dallas to see their team play in a massive arena with 4,000 people in attendance. They should have it in 8-12,000 seat venues.

The Ivy Tournament was immensely more fun than the AAC tournament I went to, and even the championship game wasn't sold out. Still a much better experience.

Gee, a Temple fan wants it at the Palestra? Shocking. lol

Putting it in an 8,000 seat on-campus location IS the definition of a mid-major conference tournament. That would be the dumbest option out there.

It should be at a neutral location. That's the fairest, non-mid major way to do it. It's not the conference's problem. It's the individual schools' problems for not showing up at this thing. There are plenty of schools in major conferences who travel. If the AAC wants to show its a major player in basketball, people have to start spending some money like one. Sorry, not sorry.

You don't like Fort Worth huh? Well, our conference will soon be headquartered there. So it appears the conference is comfortable enough with that market/area to put its tournament on its home base.

And I guarantee you the Fort Worth site will do better than any of these other choices outside of the Penny-hype machine Memphis... and it's on a neutral site.
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(10-21-2018 12:39 AM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:26 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:16 PM)Coach Bonez89 Wrote:  
(10-18-2018 03:01 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote:  Coach Bonez89 has 30 posts out of a thread of 136 total posts, almost all of them argumentative, and has garnered a net negative rep in the process. If only there were a way to decode and discern of this behavior for the proper way forward.

What if we changed his username to something related to WSU? I would expect that to expedite the process, no?

I am truly sorry for my faults in wrecking this thread. I assume I was heated with HuskyU and continued to take frustrations out on others. I know he/she started this thread, but that doesn't give you the right to be an a-hole just because somebody finally called out UCONN for always talking about joining a better league. We all know that's what everyone here desires, but to flaunt in publicly is not cool, and isn't what this should be about. My first statement, as I later stated that it was perhaps to harsh(literally two posts after my first one) and was more directed at WE(yes me too, since I give money to UofM and attend a LOT of games) need to be building this league up, not talking about "aligning ourselves for 2024 BIG, ACC inclusion" which they(UCONN fans) act is a given, and always like to bring into the conversation.

I will do my best not to respond to HuskyU going forward, but it's hard not to have the last word.

Let me get this straight. You live in Memphis. You go to Memphis football games, but you're a Tennessee Vol basketball fan?

I thought the hated Memphis sports fans did just the opposite. You know, Memphis B-Ball (real good) / Vawls F-Ball (real bad).

Regardless of how bad UT is in football or basketball, trying to compare the size of fan support is futile. I say this as someone who thinks UCF is being screwed over by the media. I do not root for the SEC, I root for UT. Do not confuse that as blind support for the SEC, though I'm sure you already did. So that's your own damn fault for doing so.
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I'm skeptical that a Philly location would do any better than a Hartford location, aside from the fact that 6k people looks better in an 8k arena than it does a 15k one (but it's not like Philly's the only place in the country you can find a small arena). The Palestra doesn't work for the Ivy League because it's the Palestra, it works because the entire Ivy League is a drivable distance from Philly and their alumni are heavily located in that Washington-Boston corridor. It works because you drive up for a day or two on a whim without having to plan it as a week-long vacation four months in advance. It's why the AAC tournament should stay out West in north Texas, where it's drivable for the maximum number of schools.
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(10-22-2018 10:08 AM)Bogg Wrote:  I'm skeptical that a Philly location would do any better than a Hartford location, aside from the fact that 6k people looks better in an 8k arena than it does a 15k one (but it's not like Philly's the only place in the country you can find a small arena). The Palestra doesn't work for the Ivy League because it's the Palestra, it works because the entire Ivy League is a drivable distance from Philly and their alumni are heavily located in that Washington-Boston corridor. It works because you drive up for a day or two on a whim without having to plan it as a week-long vacation four months in advance. It's why the AAC tournament should stay out West in north Texas, where it's drivable for the maximum number of schools.

I'm curious if Nashville would work too. While no members there, Memphis is 3 hours, Cincinnati is 5 hours, Dallas 10 hours. Though I know the SEC has staked out quite a few years in advance to host there. The main issue with this league is the way the teams are spread out. So that really limits the number of cities that could successfully host in any given year. Hartford was a disaster for any team not name UCONN. UCF didn't even have that many fans in the Orlando tournaments. I do recall Memphis having decent crowds in 2014, though that was when Louisville was in the league. They usually brought a lot of folks when the tournament was here, going back to C-USA days.
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