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(10-12-2018 11:21 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  
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(10-12-2018 09:34 PM)BullsBEAST Wrote:  We are eeking out wins but we just aren't very good. Gritty comeback from barnett but we are seeing why he's been run out of two p5 programs.

Didn't deserve to win that at all. Definitely feel for tulsa

From what I could see his receivers weren't getting much separation and they didn't come down with any of the contested balls. The o-line looked terrible. I'm glad USF one though. McCants is a beast. We couldn't contain him last year. Hope we can do a better job on him this year

Hard not to love McCants. Not often you see a wr shaped like that

He is an impressive receiver with size. He and Flowers kicked our butts last year.
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(10-12-2018 11:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  USF is 6-0 with Ws over Illinois and Georgia Tech...just focus on UConn and enjoy the cupcake, OK?

Illinois and GT are absolute trash. Neither have beat a team I’d eve consider decent.

Seriously.

What a troll
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(10-12-2018 09:32 PM)derek78 Wrote:  Heckuva game and ending. Glad USF pulled it off to keep their ranking.

Their ranking just went out the window.

Is Texas suffering in the rankings for barely beating Tulsa. At home for that matter. Just wondering.

South Florida is not Texas. I believe Texas just beat Southern Cal and OU.
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(10-13-2018 01:00 PM)Stallion Wrote:  quite frankly if Tulsa tried to pass on their last drive with their inept passing game (6-21 3.8 yards per throw) they probably would have made it easier on USF by stopping the clock and not forcing USF to call 2 timeouts. This Tulsa QB is putting up some horrible stats 19-52 36%-that's well below the Mendoza Line for QB

You really believe this? Run, run, run. You have to at least have the appearance of a pass.
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(10-13-2018 02:34 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
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(10-12-2018 09:32 PM)derek78 Wrote:  Heckuva game and ending. Glad USF pulled it off to keep their ranking.

Their ranking just went out the window.

Is Texas suffering in the rankings for barely beating Tulsa. At home for that matter. Just wondering.

South Florida is not Texas. I believe Texas just beat Southern Cal and OU.

And lost to Maryland. What is your point.
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(10-13-2018 02:41 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
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(10-12-2018 09:32 PM)derek78 Wrote:  Heckuva game and ending. Glad USF pulled it off to keep their ranking.

Their ranking just went out the window.

Is Texas suffering in the rankings for barely beating Tulsa. At home for that matter. Just wondering.

South Florida is not Texas. I believe Texas just beat Southern Cal and OU.

And lost to Maryland. What is your point.

I just told you....South Florida is not Texas....and Maryland is pretty good...a lot better than Tulsa.
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USCw is 3-2, not that impressive when you are in the PAC. OU is a rivalry, which means anything can happen.
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(10-13-2018 05:24 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  
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(10-12-2018 11:18 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  USF is 6-0 with Ws over Illinois and Georgia Tech...just focus on UConn and enjoy the cupcake, OK?

Illinois and GT are absolute trash. Neither have beat a team I’d eve consider decent.

Those two **** wins against **** P5 teams are still better than anything the Sun Belt has produced.

Didn’t claim that. But claiming GT and Illinois as key wins is funny.

I think playing in the Sun Belt has gone to your head. GT is better than any team left on your schedule.
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Wish my team was a sucky 6-0
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(10-12-2018 10:47 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  Lol usf sucks

Lol ucf doesn't look much better
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I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!
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(10-13-2018 02:41 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  
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(10-12-2018 09:32 PM)derek78 Wrote:  Heckuva game and ending. Glad USF pulled it off to keep their ranking.

Their ranking just went out the window.

Is Texas suffering in the rankings for barely beating Tulsa. At home for that matter. Just wondering.

South Florida is not Texas. I believe Texas just beat Southern Cal and OU.

And lost to Maryland. What is your point.

Apologies to BullsfaninTexas and Sierrajlp. I thought surely USF would drop out of the top 25 with that game at Tulsa. MY bad.
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(10-14-2018 01:43 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
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(10-13-2018 02:34 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
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(10-13-2018 09:41 AM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  Their ranking just went out the window.

Is Texas suffering in the rankings for barely beating Tulsa. At home for that matter. Just wondering.

South Florida is not Texas. I believe Texas just beat Southern Cal and OU.

And lost to Maryland. What is your point.

Apologies to BullsfaninTexas and Sierrajlp. I thought surely USF would drop out of the top 25 with that game at Tulsa. MY bad.

No need. UCF is staying where they are at even though they won. Just have to try to be positive (it can be frustrating, at least to me).
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(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.
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(10-14-2018 11:12 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.
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(10-15-2018 12:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 11:12 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.

Buried on the depth chart I believe. I'm guessing he just doesn't know the offense well enough yet or isn't up to college speed to yet to warrant throwing him out there. I think this offense really takes a couple years to get down. Monty's great QB's at Baylor were juniors when they stepped into the starting roll I believe. He has to have time to train them, and hasn't gotten that with these guys minus President who just doesn't have the throwing ability to run this offense.
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(10-15-2018 12:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 11:12 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.


4-10 in games decided by a touchdown.

The issue is Monty.

Our QB situation is due to Monty, our play calling is all Monty, our stupid penalties (team discipline) is all Monty, and if the whole class gets an answer wrong (our fumbles), it's the teachers fault.

The only thing we do well is defense and he has nothing to do with that side. He still manages to put them in negative situations by his play calling, negative penalties, bad situational field/clock/game awareness, and the high rate of turnovers by the offense for scores.

Mason Fine (kid killing it at UNT) wanted desperately to go to Tulsa. President was a 4 star guy. Skipper was pretty good when he first got in there. Boomer looked solid vs Houston. The QBs at TU seem to regress under Monty. Dane apparently greatly benefited from Blankenship and his Blankenships son's tutoring, because everyone else has gone from decent to bad. Boomer should have been passing more earlier in the game, he has been pretty solid with being smart with the ball. He also will pull it down and make a positive play with his feet.
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(10-15-2018 02:01 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  
(10-15-2018 12:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 11:12 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.


4-10 in games decided by a touchdown.

The issue is Monty.

Our QB situation is due to Monty, our play calling is all Monty, our stupid penalties (team discipline) is all Monty, and if the whole class gets an answer wrong (our fumbles), it's the teachers fault.

The only thing we do well is defense and he has nothing to do with that side. He still manages to put them in negative situations by his play calling, negative penalties, bad situational field/clock/game awareness, and the high rate of turnovers by the offense for scores.

Mason Fine (kid killing it at UNT) wanted desperately to go to Tulsa. President was a 4 star guy. Skipper was pretty good when he first got in there. Boomer looked solid vs Houston. The QBs at TU seem to regress under Monty. Dane apparently greatly benefited from Blankenship and his Blankenships son's tutoring, because everyone else has gone from decent to bad. Boomer should have been passing more earlier in the game, he has been pretty solid with being smart with the ball. He also will pull it down and make a positive play with his feet.

Benefited from the Blakenships? The same Blakenships that everyone also wanted fired, and said was stupid for hiring is sons to coach. And also said his son was a terrible qb coach? Really?

Boomer couldn't hit the broadside of a barn most of that game.

President was a bust I'll give you that. But that happens with every coach.

But hey, if you need a scapegoat I guess go for the latest-greatest target.
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(10-15-2018 12:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
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(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.

Buried on the depth chart I believe. I'm guessing he just doesn't know the offense well enough yet or isn't up to college speed to yet to warrant throwing him out there. I think this offense really takes a couple years to get down. Monty's great QB's at Baylor were juniors when they stepped into the starting roll I believe. He has to have time to train them, and hasn't gotten that with these guys minus President who just doesn't have the throwing ability to run this offense.


That's because this offense supposedly doesn't have a playbook and all kinds of other crap.

Meanwhile Kendall Briles turned FAU into a powerhouse offense in his first year, with out a kid recruited to fit it and has King humming along in his 1st year also not a kid recruited for it. Anyone Monty picks takes 3 years to be good. Except for President and Skipper, and this Baylor transfer kid.
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(10-15-2018 02:22 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
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(10-15-2018 12:38 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 11:12 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(10-14-2018 12:48 PM)TCH51 Wrote:  I wish Coach Montgomery would have us play to win instead of play to not lose. Trust your QB to throw the ball or get another QB!

We don't have another QB who's not sitting out on transfer. We threw for 79 yards the whole game. Our best OL was out hurt. He did what he could with what he had to work with.

Monty probably got a little too conservative but there really wasn't much more he could do.

I agree, I believe Montgomery is a better coach than what he is currently being credited. He made great calls on those two delayed trap plays. He badly needs a QB. What happened to the Freshman kid from Texas, I think his name was Brin, he was supposed to be a gunslinger.


4-10 in games decided by a touchdown.

The issue is Monty.

Our QB situation is due to Monty, our play calling is all Monty, our stupid penalties (team discipline) is all Monty, and if the whole class gets an answer wrong (our fumbles), it's the teachers fault.

The only thing we do well is defense and he has nothing to do with that side. He still manages to put them in negative situations by his play calling, negative penalties, bad situational field/clock/game awareness, and the high rate of turnovers by the offense for scores.

Mason Fine (kid killing it at UNT) wanted desperately to go to Tulsa. President was a 4 star guy. Skipper was pretty good when he first got in there. Boomer looked solid vs Houston. The QBs at TU seem to regress under Monty. Dane apparently greatly benefited from Blankenship and his Blankenships son's tutoring, because everyone else has gone from decent to bad. Boomer should have been passing more earlier in the game, he has been pretty solid with being smart with the ball. He also will pull it down and make a positive play with his feet.

Benefited from the Blakenships? The same Blakenships that everyone also wanted fired, and said was stupid for hiring is sons to coach. And also said his son was a terrible qb coach? Really?

Boomer couldn't hit the broadside of a barn most of that game.

President was a bust I'll give you that. But that happens with every coach.

But hey, if you need a scapegoat I guess go for the latest-greatest target.


Name a QB at high school or college that Bill or Josh has coached who hasn't excelled? Does that make Bill a great head coach? No.

Boomers sure did find that receiver wide open for the TD, he's smaller than a barn. 227 yards on 30ish attempts. Put the ball on the money for the dropped td vs USF. Basically didn't attempt a pass in the 4th quarter, so why would they not load the box?

Scapegoat? Every issue goes back to the coach. That's not scapegoating that's the proper attributation of fault.
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