https://www.three-man-weave.com/3mw/conf...eview-2019

Wow. Really great detailed write up. I only read ODU for now and it's spot on. I'm saving the rest for later. Kudos to whoever wrote that!

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That is a really impressive write-up! Im excited for hoopz season to get started.

Seemed very knowledgeable of our teams.

Counting down the day until basketball starts....Although I am prepared for us to come out a little slow out of the gates...

He literally just wrote WKU in as champs because of a single recruit. Then gave UNT way too much credit for winning a pay to play tourney, and I think he underestimates Marshalls recruits, Dantonis coaching develooment ability, and gives too much weight to Penava leaving.

Just my two cents. We will see what happens but I believe Marshall is the favorite this season with an all american guard, and then a second one that's a starter nearly anywhere in Burks, and if not, we should have a pretty damn good league.

(10-07-2018 08:20 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  Seemed very knowledgeable of our teams.

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It is more knowledgeable than most but there are some misleading comments concerning WKU's depth. Doesn't note why the starters logged so many minutes last fall and seems to imply lack of depth in the front court at least will be an issue again this season.

(10-07-2018 09:22 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  He literally just wrote WKU in as champs because of a single recruit. Then gave UNT way too much credit for winning a pay to play tourney, and I think he underestimates Marshalls recruits, Dantonis coaching develooment ability, and gives too much weight to Penava leaving.

Just my two cents. We will see what happens but I believe Marshall is the favorite this season with an all american guard, and then a second one that's a starter nearly anywhere in Burks, and if not, we should have a pretty damn good league.

Not much you can say about the order in which he ranked the teams. It's always a crapshoot with preseason rankings. Much credit deserved for detailed write ups though

I could see Marshall crapping the bed or going away with this league. Penava was the reason you guys were so good last year (from most of your posters mouths). When he wasn’t there we beat you by 80. Yes I know Elmore is good but your no three approach works good if you ha e a rim defender. That’s where it’s going to hurt you the most. Burks is good but after that pretty slim. Your year is going to depend on Elmore getting 2/3 other people involved so let’s see how that plays out. (I don’t think unt will get second place)

Dude obviously downplays MU based on loss of Penava. I wish he was back for senior year too as he had a great year, but I don’t know if most people realize he didn’t even start or contribute much as a sophomore. DD will develope a replacement. It’s what he does. Insiders look for Williams to improve and take up the slack.

(10-08-2018 09:41 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  When he wasn’t there we beat you by 80.

Seems bold, but a few years ago we actually beat them 102-46 so perhaps it is possible

Honestly that was probably the most ridiculous basketball game I've ever seen. If a game can end up 102-46 and really not even be THAT close......then that game was it. It was 53-17 at halftime.

(10-08-2018 12:22 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 09:41 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  When he wasn’t there we beat you by 80.

Seems bold, but a few years ago we actually beat them 102-46 so perhaps it is possible

Honestly that was probably the most ridiculous basketball game I've ever seen. If a game can end up 102-46 and really not even be THAT close......then that game was it. It was 53-17 at halftime.

NCAA says that never happened because Southern Miss Basketball was cheating absolutely as hard as a program can cheat. I mean, you could look it up.

(10-08-2018 12:22 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(10-08-2018 09:41 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  When he wasn’t there we beat you by 80.

Seems bold, but a few years ago we actually beat them 102-46 so perhaps it is possible

Honestly that was probably the most ridiculous basketball game I've ever seen. If a game can end up 102-46 and really not even be THAT close......then that game was it. It was 53-17 at halftime.

We played a second time and won 88-84

I sat behind the Marshall bench that night. It was insane. Just one of those nights. We haven't had many of those.

(10-07-2018 08:20 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  Seemed very knowledgeable of our teams.

Came to a different conclusion than I did regarding Rice’s predicted finish (I’ve got us solid top-ten and he’s got us dead last) but he’s got all his facts lined up and makes a good argument why. He also listed one of our guys on his predicted conference “newcomers of the year” team.
If we have two of our newcomers earn that recognition, then we’ll take that next step THIS year. If not, then he’s right that we’re still (at least) a year away from being competitive.

(10-08-2018 09:41 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  When he wasn’t there we beat you by 80.

67-66 when it counted....

This is basically the preview for Marshall...

Jon Elmore CJ Burks blah blah blah Rondale Watson blah blah blah blah Loss of Penava blah blah blah blah blah blah No one else blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah Jarrod West, Jannson Williams and Darius George showed promise.

Nothing about the new freshman and he completely missed Mikel Beyers, who quite possibly could be the best pure shooter on this squad.

It wasn't Jannson Williams role last year but he had 25 blocks on the season and 17 of those blocks came in the last 7 games.

Also there isn't a coach in the conference I would even consider over Dan D'Antoni. He not only has a staff that knows how to recruit the right players. He knows of to make those 2 star players look and play like 4 and even sometimes 5 star kids.

(10-07-2018 09:22 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  He literally just wrote WKU in as champs because of a single recruit.

I would personally put Marshall in that top tier (and I wouldn't gripe too much about anybody that put ya'll first, champs until somebody knocks you off and all that). The NCAA tournament was great experience for your many returning players and the trip to the Caribbean should help the team to gel as well. But having said that... remember that we won our two regular season meetings last year by a combined 36 points. You won the tournament game by 1 point... Elmore did as much as he could do and our leading scorer Hollingsworth got smacked in the face early in that game and had to wear a mask. Really hurt him on both ends of the floor. If Elmore only scored his season average? You get swept. If Hollingsworth doesn't get injured? You get swept. You guys will be gangbusters on the threes but we have long, lean, athletic guards that can slow them down. And we will crush you in the paint. With all of the three point shooters Marshall can certainly beat us or anybody else on a given night. I don't mean to put your team down at all. I think Marshall will be quite good. But you can make a strong argument for WKU that does not hinge on "a single recruit".

Hollingsworth, Beardon, Anderson all back. Murray started for one of the best teams in the SEC last year. Banton is a stud. Everyone raves about Savage. Galen Smith is said to have stolen the show in summer work outs. WKU will be deep.

Quote:Then gave UNT way too much credit for winning a pay to play tourney,

This strikes me as one of those picks to mix it up and try to not be obvious. Personally I would put UNT at #3. The CBI is good experience, a confidence booster, and gave them a lot of extra practice. They were the last CUSA team playing in March. They also did an out of country offseason tournament which will help them to gel I think. I like North Texas to get a bye and make a deep run in the CUSA tournament.

One thing that will be interesting with the new scheduling format... last year the top teams did not play even schedules. I do not think it was a coincidence that Marshall and WKU played the toughest conference schedules and it was those two playing for the title.

I think that the east was clearly better than the west last year. MTSU, post season flop notwithstanding, was the best team in the conference over the course of the season. Marshall was clearly pretty good. WKU went to the NIT final four. And Old Dominion finished above two of the afore mentioned teams in the regular season standings, I think they were pretty good as well.

Last season North Texas only played those four teams once each (and went 0-4). With the new formatting they will likely play the top teams (regardless of who those teams are) twice each (and maybe more). I wonder if they are ready for that? Those battles between the top eastern teams... I'm telling you that was big boy basketball. Dantoni himself credited CUSA for preparing his team for Wichita State. I think WKU, Marshall, and ODU will be somewhat better prepared for that because the east was BRUTAL last year. That's why I could see UNT finishing a little lower in the regular season standings, but by tournament time will be on par with their eastern counterparts experience wise.

Quote:and I think he underestimates Marshalls recruits,

I watched all three of Marshall's games in the Bahamas. The big guy you all got is strong and a space eater but I think he looked a bit slow. Even if they improve his conditioning I think he could spend a lot of time in foul trouble this season. We'll see.

Quote:Dantonis coaching develooment ability, and gives too much weight to Penava leaving.

You guys did not have a lot of depth in the post and from what I saw were a significantly weaker team without Peneva. He's a big blow. That is offset somewhat I think by the fact that you return so many of your players. There is no substitute for playing together for multiple years.

Quote:Just my two cents. We will see what happens but I believe Marshall is the favorite this season with an all american guard, and then a second one that's a starter nearly anywhere in Burks, and if not, we should have a pretty damn good league.

It's all just opinion at this point. I think this WILL BE a damn good league. AGAIN. Marshall, ODU, and WKU should all be at or near the top again... and several teams in the west could be improved as well. Should be a fun year.