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RE: Week 6 AP Poll
(10-07-2018 07:55 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 06:35 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 02:31 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  USF almost lost to UMass.
Cincinnati struggled against Tulane.
San Diego State's win over Boise State on the blue smurf turf was more of an impressive win.
Utah State's beat down of BYU is much better than the 2 AAC win. BYU beat Wisconsin. Wisconsin is still ranked.

You have no idea what you are talking about. USF was up 41-14 and then 48-21 late in the 3rd quarter. UMass scored some garbage time points against USF backups. USF was up 58-35 when UMass scored with 15 SECONDS LEFT IN GAME. Under no circumstances did USF "almost lose" to UMass. They were UP 23 POINTS WITH 15 SECONDS LEFT IN GAME. USF RB had over 300 yards rushing.

I actually watched the game. Did you? Or did you just look at a score.


USF was trailing to UMass. in the first part of the game which was posted in laughable scores. That is why they are who they are. They played nobody yet. 4 teams in the Mountain and 4 teams in the west of the MWC who are strong. Only 4 schools suck. You only have 4 teams that are strong in AAC, and the rest are junk. AAC is making it good because the strong MWC teams are beating each other up.

And? USF trailed early in the game and only led by 6 at halftime, but scored 28 in the 3rd quarter to blow it open. USF was up by almost 30 points and coasted, playing backups. All 3 USF QB's played. UMass got a score with 15 seconds left in game making a 58-35 score seem somewhat close at 58-42.
10-08-2018 10:12 AM
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RE: Week 6 AP Poll
(10-08-2018 09:24 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 08:13 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 05:10 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 02:41 PM)TampaTom Wrote:  USF won on the road.
Cincinnati won against a conference opponent.

The AAC is, as it often does this time of year, benefiting from attrition. UCF surged into the top 10 for .... beating the #102 team in the Massey rankings. USF surged into the top 25 for .... beating the #115 team in the Massey rankings. Cincy also surged into the top 25 for ... beating the #88 team.

As often happens in October, the top AAC teams rise by having teams above them playing tough games lose, while they feast on flapjacks. The polls often work that way. 07-coffee3

USF was also boosted in the computer polls because Illinois and Georgia Tech both won. Do yourself a favor and try to enjoy the fact that your school has a good team.

USF is #29 in MC, which is reasonable. True, I should be enjoying a 5-0 team more than I am, I tend to be pessimistic. 5-0 beats the hell out of what happened 2011 - 2014. But IMO I have reason to be. We haven't looked good, have struggled more than we should have against some really bad teams. Charlie Strong has not allayed my doubts that he is coasting on what Taggart put together.

Last year, e.g., I thought we had a good chance to beat UCF, and we came so close to doing so. This year, UCF isn't as good as they were last year, and yet I fear they will beat us by 25 points next month. That's how I feel about this team, just my honest opinion.

Here's the thing that most people don't seem to appreciate - Charlie Strong is the king of the Uncle Milty (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.p...on%20Berle for those who don't know what this is in reference to). If you go through his entire coaching career, when his teams win it's rarely in an impressive fashion. The year he coached Louisville to a Sugar Bowl win over Fl*rida, here were their wins:

Kentucky (32-14)
Missouri State (35-7)
North Carolina (39-34)
@ FIU (28-21) (Mario Cristobal's last year before being fired, team went 3-9)
@ Southern Miss (21-17) (USM went 0-12 that year)
@ Pitt (45-35)
USF (27-25) - BTW, this was Skip's last year at USF we were so bad
Cincinnati (34-31)
Temple (45-17)
@ Rutgers (20-17)

That's 3 fairly unimpressive wins over bad teams. Plus, sometimes he just looks past teams he shouldn't, like UConn that same year, Kansas the year he got fired at Texas, and even Houston last year (no offense, but the Cougars had no business being allowed to hang around in that game - Houston never led until there were 11 seconds left after picking up that ridiculous 4th & 27).

Strong is a very good recruiter (not unlike Taggart). But he's also an incredibly conservative coach (compared to Riverboat/Showboat Willie). We're not going to be blowing out any teams that we think we should.

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10-08-2018 10:34 AM
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RE: Week 6 AP Poll
(10-08-2018 09:28 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 05:35 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 05:10 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(10-07-2018 02:41 PM)TampaTom Wrote:  USF won on the road.
Cincinnati won against a conference opponent.

The AAC is, as it often does this time of year, benefiting from attrition. UCF surged into the top 10 for .... beating the #102 team in the Massey rankings. USF surged into the top 25 for .... beating the #115 team in the Massey rankings. Cincy also surged into the top 25 for ... beating the #88 team.

As often happens in October, the top AAC teams rise by having teams above them playing tough games lose, while they feast on flapjacks. The polls often work that way. 07-coffee3

This is about the 3rd thread you've brought this stat up so I guess this will be your new talking point to hate on the AAC with, but I swear that I've seen millions of posts with you arguing about how useless of a stat Massey is when AAC fans used it as proof of anything positive about the conference. 01-wingedeagle03-nutkick

You don't pay much attention. I have said computers were useless this season, because they have been. That's because almost all computers incorporate data from last season in to this season's rankings, up until about week 6.

But, now we are at week 6, so that issue is basically gone now, so computer reliability has gone up and we can now meaningfully invoke them. I made all of this clear in other posts.

You are too much the AAC militant to read carefully and think objectively. 07-coffee3

Great!! So know that the computer rankings "reliable" and we can now "meaningfully invoke them", I'll be waiting for you to acknowledge that unbiased Colley matrix as legitimate along with ucf's title claim. I thank you now in advance.04-cheers
10-08-2018 11:03 AM
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