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Disclaimer: In a post-RPI world, it's difficult to know exactly how quality wins and bad losses will be characterized, but it seems extremely likely that these criteria will continue to be the most important factors in the selection process.

Alcorn State - Alcorn only won 7 D1 games last year, but they did finish 2nd in the SWAC the previous two seasons. Nevertheless, it seems likely that they'll be one of the worst teams in the SWAC (and thus the entire country) again this year. In 4 years, Haith has lost to ORU, Jacksonville State, and Lamar in season openers. If he loses this game, it's over.

South Carolina State - The only conference worse than the SWAC last year was the MEAC. SC St. finished 10th in the MEAC.

Cal Baptist - Continuing the cupcake trend, this will be the first season in D1 for Cal Baptist and they're probably the best of the 3 teams.

Little Rock - UALR got to enjoy precisely one good season (and a 2OT upset in the first round of the NCAAT) before Chris Beard skipped town and they dropped back into the cellar of the Sun Belt. And yet, as bad as they've been, UALR has beaten Tulsa 5 times in the past decade (often popping Tulsa's bubble in the process). It's probably time to take a break from this series.

Nevada - Well, that escalated quickly. Nevada is a preseason top 10 team and this game will be played in Las Vegas in front of a crowd of 90% Nevada fans. It's a likely loss, but I don't think this is a bad game. It's the first time both of these teams play away from their home arena and both teams will be integrating a significant number of new players. Would I feel better if this game was being played in Cancun? Sure, but there's no downside. If you lose, no harm done. If you win, that's a season-making win.

Southern Illinois/UMass - SIU is the better team, but neither is likely to make the NCAAT. Either way, this is a losable game after playing Nevada and we'll need to be ready.

UT-Arlington - I was a huge fan of Scott Cross, but UTA missed the NCAAT last year with 8 seniors on their roster and that was apparently the final straw for the decision makers in Arlington. That makes this a tremendous rebuilding job for former Texas Tech assistant Chris Ogden and a game that Tulsa should win easily.

@ Utah - Kudos to the scheduler on this one. Utah is a former rival with sentimental ties (Shea Seals' final home game was against Utah) that will be good, but not great. It's a winnable road game that could be Q1.

Oklahoma State - Unlikely to be a quality win, but OSU will draw in the Reynolds Center and it's always nice to beat the Pokes.

Kansas State - Consecutive B12 opponents at home is a huge scheduling win. Drawing a KState team that made the elite 8 and will start the year inside the top 20 is even bigger. This is the best shot TU has at a Q1 win and it will be key to making the NCAAT.

New Orleans - Outside of a fluky season in 2017, UNO has been consistently bad and one of the worst teams in the Southland. Even Buzz Williams couldn't win there.

Dayton (N) - On the one hand, Dayton was consistently a great program for the past decade. On the other hand, they were shockingly bad in Anthony Grant's first season and they don't project to be much better this year. If Dayton is back, then this is a great game on a neutral floor.

@ ORU - We all know the issues with the ORU series at this point. They haven't been good for a while now, but it doesn't seem to matter when they play TU. We just need to take care of business in this one and move on to conference play.
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(10-07-2018 12:10 AM)DeMarioHooper Wrote:  Disclaimer: In a post-RPI world, it's difficult to know exactly how quality wins and bad losses will be characterized, but it seems extremely likely that these criteria will continue to be the most important factors in the selection process.

Alcorn State - Alcorn only won 7 D1 games last year, but they did finish 2nd in the SWAC the previous two seasons. Nevertheless, it seems likely that they'll be one of the worst teams in the SWAC (and thus the entire country) again this year. In 4 years, Haith has lost to ORU, Jacksonville State, and Lamar in season openers. If he loses this game, it's over.

South Carolina State - The only conference worse than the SWAC last year was the MEAC. SC St. finished 10th in the MEAC.

Cal Baptist - Continuing the cupcake trend, this will be the first season in D1 for Cal Baptist and they're probably the best of the 3 teams.

Little Rock - UALR got to enjoy precisely one good season (and a 2OT upset in the first round of the NCAAT) before Chris Beard skipped town and they dropped back into the cellar of the Sun Belt. And yet, as bad as they've been, UALR has beaten Tulsa 5 times in the past decade (often popping Tulsa's bubble in the process). It's probably time to take a break from this series.

Nevada - Well, that escalated quickly. Nevada is a preseason top 10 team and this game will be played in Las Vegas in front of a crowd of 90% Nevada fans. It's a likely loss, but I don't think this is a bad game. It's the first time both of these teams play away from their home arena and both teams will be integrating a significant number of new players. Would I feel better if this game was being played in Cancun? Sure, but there's no downside. If you lose, no harm done. If you win, that's a season-making win.

Southern Illinois/UMass - SIU is the better team, but neither is likely to make the NCAAT. Either way, this is a losable game after playing Nevada and we'll need to be ready.

UT-Arlington - I was a huge fan of Scott Cross, but UTA missed the NCAAT last year with 8 seniors on their roster and that was apparently the final straw for the decision makers in Arlington. That makes this a tremendous rebuilding job for former Texas Tech assistant Chris Ogden and a game that Tulsa should win easily.

@ Utah - Kudos to the scheduler on this one. Utah is a former rival with sentimental ties (Shea Seals' final home game was against Utah) that will be good, but not great. It's a winnable road game that could be Q1.

Oklahoma State - Unlikely to be a quality win, but OSU will draw in the Reynolds Center and it's always nice to beat the Pokes.

Kansas State - Consecutive B12 opponents at home is a huge scheduling win. Drawing a KState team that made the elite 8 and will start the year inside the top 20 is even bigger. This is the best shot TU has at a Q1 win and it will be key to making the NCAAT.

New Orleans - Outside of a fluky season in 2017, UNO has been consistently bad and one of the worst teams in the Southland. Even Buzz Williams couldn't win there.

Dayton (N) - On the one hand, Dayton was consistently a great program for the past decade. On the other hand, they were shockingly bad in Anthony Grant's first season and they don't project to be much better this year. If Dayton is back, then this is a great game on a neutral floor.

@ ORU - We all know the issues with the ORU series at this point. They haven't been good for a while now, but it doesn't seem to matter when they play TU. We just need to take care of business in this one and move on to conference play.


Some good info you have been posting, all the player stuff you as well or are they from the media?

The UALR game is part of that Vegas tournament I believe but I agree we should look to swap them with another regional program.

Haith absolutely can not blow any of the cupcakes. This year the AAC will be a dog fight, but probably offers enough sos to at least get us on the bubble if we win the non conference games we are suppose to. Picking up a Utah, Nevada, or K state type win would probably give us a good chance at an at large.

Always good to have more TU fans on here. We're a small group and there are a few mainly lurkers so you might have to be patient to get the conversation going. I saw you posted in the basketball sub as well. You'll probably get more talk going here on the main board. With drummer, you, me, and goldenhurricane2 and the occasional other Tulsa poster like Nevada, weather demon, or panic we can probably have some solid threads going. If rabid decides to participate watch outCOGS
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Thanks. It's all original content so far.

The good news is that the cupcakes are really cakey this year. None of them are even as good as Lamar was last year. But you're right, we need to steal one of those marquee Q1 wins. The best bet is probably KState since it's a home game.
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(10-10-2018 06:11 PM)DeMarioHooper Wrote:  Thanks. It's all original content so far.

The good news is that the cupcakes are really cakey this year. None of them are even as good as Lamar was last year. But you're right, we need to steal one of those marquee Q1 wins. The best bet is probably KState since it's a home game.

I think Nevada is winnable too. They will have a lot of new parts. They were really in a groove with the six players last year. I expect Nevada to have a few bumps early in the season as everyone figures out their place/role on the team. It reminds me some of the K-State game last year "neutral court" and all.

I feel like getting a win at Utah is possible too. K-state at home is big and one we need to get. Haith has to avoid the sugar high drop we have had early in the year. If some how we win all three games we could be looking at a solid at large.
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Great info! Appreciate the write up. I’m cautiously optimistic about hoops this year.
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Yeah this is great info! I follow basketball but dont get in depth before the season. So what do you all think? Can this team contend for a conference title? I'm figuring we're solid top half of the league and maybe possibly top 3 if we have a really good season.
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(10-11-2018 09:20 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  Yeah this is great info! I follow basketball but dont get in depth before the season. So what do you all think? Can this team contend for a conference title? I'm figuring we're solid top half of the league and maybe possibly top 3 if we have a really good season.

A conference title? Sure the conference is wide open this year. I expect a lot of good teams though and a four or five bid season. I've heard good things about the new comers and it seems Haith has the sort of players he favors in his system. Just what we have coming back I expect top half. With the transfers and newbies I think top 3 isn't unreasonable.

We're going to sneak up on a few people this year. UConn and Memphis are overwhelming the headlines and people aren't looking at the team as a serious threat. There are some surprises coming 07-coffee3
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Our top 3 can compete with anyone in the conference. There's big question marks beyond that. Joiner and Scott flashed last year, but were inconsistent. Reports are good on Horne and Moore, but they haven't played real game action in more than a year.

The conference is also weaker at the top. There's no top 10 teams like last year. We're being picked between 6th-9th in most preseason predictions, so we'd need to overachieve to finish top 3. It's not impossible, but we really need some of these transfers to hit big.

There's an open practice tomorrow before the football game starting at 4pm, so hopefully we'll know more after that.
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(10-11-2018 11:48 PM)DeMarioHooper Wrote:  Our top 3 can compete with anyone in the conference. There's big question marks beyond that. Joiner and Scott flashed last year, but were inconsistent. Reports are good on Horne and Moore, but they haven't played real game action in more than a year.

The conference is also weaker at the top. There's no top 10 teams like last year. We're being picked between 6th-9th in most preseason predictions, so we'd need to overachieve to finish top 3. It's not impossible, but we really need some of these transfers to hit big.

There's an open practice tomorrow before the football game starting at 4pm, so hopefully we'll know more after that.


I hope to see a report lol as I won't be able to make it.

It seems we are always preseason 7-9 in this conference despite having the third most conference wins since we joined. I could see us being top 3 or winning it but I wouldn't bet a million dollars on them. Still I think we're a top half team which I would be pretty confident to bet on.
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I wasn't at the practice, but reports were very good on Jeffries (as expected) and Falokun (big surprise). Still waiting on Horne and Moore to really show out.
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So the consensus right now is we are 9th. We lost three players off the fourth place team last year, some teams replacing entire teams or big chunks of it and some replacing whole coaching staff. Thank goodness the voting doesn't decide things.

The report I got was that we looked good, aggressive, and shared the ball really well. Joiner played point all game, taplin opposite him. We had double digits assists and only one or two turnovers for them. Igbanu looks to be a beast and is becoming really consitant and efficient. Jeffries was a beast and much more assertive on offense.

Lots of good news. Hopefully everyone continues to progressing and we can tighten up as a team. Avoiding sugar let downs in the cupcakes and we could be looking very good going into the conference play.
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