(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Don’t be so hard on your team on fumbles.... Troy is 2nd in FBS in takeaways since 2016... we get one or two every game pretty much

I am going to be hard on the fumbles. No excuses.


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(10-05-2018 03:37 PM)panama Wrote:  I am going to be hard on the fumbles. No excuses.


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The only hard on you should have had from that game.... sorry I really do need to grow up.

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

(10-05-2018 08:43 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

If the play fake works and they end up at midfield everyone loves the call. Both Troy quarterbacks are significantly faster than 5.0. Do your homework.

(10-05-2018 08:43 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

Who dis?

(10-05-2018 08:43 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

I hate agreeing with this dude. LOL.As for Ellington I am having a hard time understanding how a guy who was a Jr College All-American and threw for 3200 yards and 27 TDs LAST YEAR is having so much trouble. A coach can break a QB. Hope it's not the case. Add to that the crazy dismissal of a Sr DB under surreal circumstances and that he is the second highly recruited ATL kid run off and it is not looking good for recruiting Atlanta going forward.

I am not seeing the adjustments that you would think you would make when your OL cannot pass protect and are being blitzed bigly weekly.

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(10-06-2018 08:15 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 08:43 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

I hate agreeing with this dude. LOL.As for Ellington I am having a hard time understanding how a guy who was a Jr College All-American and threw for 3200 yards and 27 TDs LAST YEAR is having so much trouble. A coach can break a QB. Hope it's not the case. Add to that the crazy dismissal of a Sr DB under surreal circumstances and that he is the second highly recruited ATL kid run off and it is not looking good for recruiting Atlanta going forward.

I am not seeing the adjustments that you would think you would make when your OL cannot pass protect and are being blitzed bigly weekly.

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It’s a big step up, even from the G5. It also depends on his juco oline, and who he was throwing to. Some of those guys may have been upper P5 players. Jucos can have a very very wide range of skills from school to school. Using high school classes for this analogy...one week they could be playing a 7A Lowndes or Colquitt type school...then the next week they might play a 6A Valdosta type school...then the next week they could play a 3A school.

(10-06-2018 08:15 AM)panama Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 08:43 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(10-05-2018 12:09 PM)GSUALUM17 Wrote:  Looking at the stats of this game and what ive seen so far this season, I think we have a good stable of talent on the offense to score around 30pts consistently in this league IFFFF the offense doesnt screw up good drives with fumbles (-4 turnover avg is all of our losses.) 400yds of offense on tough Troy's defense isnt bad. Just. Stop. Giving. Stupid. Fumbles. God!!

IF the young defense can make just a SLIGHTEST improvement to allow 1 or 2 less scores, we can win some ball games. Shawn Elliott might be able to turn this "rebuild" season into a decent year. But *** ****, this schedule has been brutal and demoralizing for bunch of new starters who were playing high school football just a year ago

Youth isn't your only problem. When you have coaches calling a playaction pass out of the shotgun on the half yard line, coaching may be more of an issue than you want to believe. Especially when you have QB's that run 5.0 40's basically running endzone to endzone on your defense all game. Even with youth, you can make adjustments to stop that. Also, Ellington is not the answer.

I hate agreeing with this dude. LOL.As for Ellington I am having a hard time understanding how a guy who was a Jr College All-American and threw for 3200 yards and 27 TDs LAST YEAR is having so much trouble. A coach can break a QB. Hope it's not the case. Add to that the crazy dismissal of a Sr DB under surreal circumstances and that he is the second highly recruited ATL kid run off and it is not looking good for recruiting Atlanta going forward.

I am not seeing the adjustments that you would think you would make when your OL cannot pass protect and are being blitzed bigly weekly.

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It’s a big step up from Juco to FBS. Not necessarily in talent, but in discipline.


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That safety to me looked like it was just a good play by the Troy lineman. He just completely burst into the backfield and didn't even seem to even get slowed up a bit by the fake handoff. It took the announcer a few seconds to look and see if it was a safety because he couldn't tell who had the ball. I couldn't really tell either. With a unreliable run game I believe I'd also let Ellington just take the ball and dance around and either find an open receiver or pick up a few yards.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good coaching job by Elliott and his staff. State just dug themselves into a hole too early, and pretty much no one in this conference is going to stop Troy with their secondary as thin as State's is. Oh, and the idea that Ellington is a problem is nonsense.

(10-06-2018 10:26 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  That safety to me looked like it was just a good play by the Troy lineman. He just completely burst into the backfield and didn't even seem to even get slowed up a bit by the fake handoff. It took the announcer a few seconds to look and see if it was a safety because he couldn't tell who had the ball. I couldn't really tell either. With a unreliable run game I believe I'd also let Ellington just take the ball and dance around and either find an open receiver or pick up a few yards.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good coaching job by Elliott and his staff. State just dug themselves into a hole too early, and pretty much no one in this conference is going to stop Troy with their secondary as thin as State's is. Oh, and the idea that Ellington is a problem is nonsense.

Decent playcall but wasn’t really the appropriate time to run that. Plus the online has been a problem from game one. Ellington isn’t the problem I agree but he does tend to hold onto the ball too long at times. Gotta get rid of it and live to play another down. Sacks,fumbles, penalties are usually drive killers. And I’m going to be honest I haven’t been impressed with Fuquas defense in the least. It’s as if he is intent on running his scheme rather than adjusting and making the offense do something they aren’t comfortable with. With such a young secondary the offense needs to carry the team to keep there reps down so they don’t give up the big plays. In the four losses the opposing web has been allowed to do what they are comfortable with and that’s not good. If barker doesn’t get hurt Troy woulda prolly been plus forty points.

(10-06-2018 11:10 AM)RoyK Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 10:26 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  That safety to me looked like it was just a good play by the Troy lineman. He just completely burst into the backfield and didn't even seem to even get slowed up a bit by the fake handoff. It took the announcer a few seconds to look and see if it was a safety because he couldn't tell who had the ball. I couldn't really tell either. With a unreliable run game I believe I'd also let Ellington just take the ball and dance around and either find an open receiver or pick up a few yards.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good coaching job by Elliott and his staff. State just dug themselves into a hole too early, and pretty much no one in this conference is going to stop Troy with their secondary as thin as State's is. Oh, and the idea that Ellington is a problem is nonsense.

Decent playcall but wasn’t really the appropriate time to run that. Plus the online has been a problem from game one. Ellington isn’t the problem I agree but he does tend to hold onto the ball too long at times. Gotta get rid of it and live to play another down. Sacks,fumbles, penalties are usually drive killers. And I’m going to be honest I haven’t been impressed with Fuquas defense in the least. It’s as if he is intent on running his scheme rather than adjusting and making the offense do something they aren’t comfortable with. With such a young secondary the offense needs to carry the team to keep there reps down so they don’t give up the big plays. In the four losses the opposing web has been allowed to do what they are comfortable with and that’s not good. If barker doesn’t get hurt Troy woulda prolly been plus forty points.

Sawyer would have been plus 40 points had that crazy interception didn’t happen on the 1

(10-06-2018 11:48 AM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 11:10 AM)RoyK Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 10:26 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  That safety to me looked like it was just a good play by the Troy lineman. He just completely burst into the backfield and didn't even seem to even get slowed up a bit by the fake handoff. It took the announcer a few seconds to look and see if it was a safety because he couldn't tell who had the ball. I couldn't really tell either. With a unreliable run game I believe I'd also let Ellington just take the ball and dance around and either find an open receiver or pick up a few yards.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good coaching job by Elliott and his staff. State just dug themselves into a hole too early, and pretty much no one in this conference is going to stop Troy with their secondary as thin as State's is. Oh, and the idea that Ellington is a problem is nonsense.

Decent playcall but wasn’t really the appropriate time to run that. Plus the online has been a problem from game one. Ellington isn’t the problem I agree but he does tend to hold onto the ball too long at times. Gotta get rid of it and live to play another down. Sacks,fumbles, penalties are usually drive killers. And I’m going to be honest I haven’t been impressed with Fuquas defense in the least. It’s as if he is intent on running his scheme rather than adjusting and making the offense do something they aren’t comfortable with. With such a young secondary the offense needs to carry the team to keep there reps down so they don’t give up the big plays. In the four losses the opposing web has been allowed to do what they are comfortable with and that’s not good. If barker doesn’t get hurt Troy woulda prolly been plus forty points.

Sawyer would have been plus 40 points had that crazy interception didn’t happen on the 1

Plus the blown call on his td run.

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(10-06-2018 11:10 AM)RoyK Wrote:  

(10-06-2018 10:26 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  That safety to me looked like it was just a good play by the Troy lineman. He just completely burst into the backfield and didn't even seem to even get slowed up a bit by the fake handoff. It took the announcer a few seconds to look and see if it was a safety because he couldn't tell who had the ball. I couldn't really tell either. With a unreliable run game I believe I'd also let Ellington just take the ball and dance around and either find an open receiver or pick up a few yards.

Overall, I think it was a pretty good coaching job by Elliott and his staff. State just dug themselves into a hole too early, and pretty much no one in this conference is going to stop Troy with their secondary as thin as State's is. Oh, and the idea that Ellington is a problem is nonsense.

Decent playcall but wasn’t really the appropriate time to run that. Plus the online has been a problem from game one. Ellington isn’t the problem I agree but he does tend to hold onto the ball too long at times. Gotta get rid of it and live to play another down. Sacks,fumbles, penalties are usually drive killers. And I’m going to be honest I haven’t been impressed with Fuquas defense in the least. It’s as if he is intent on running his scheme rather than adjusting and making the offense do something they aren’t comfortable with. With such a young secondary the offense needs to carry the team to keep there reps down so they don’t give up the big plays. In the four losses the opposing web has been allowed to do what they are comfortable with and that’s not good. If barker doesn’t get hurt Troy woulda prolly been plus forty points.

Not impressed with either coordinator.


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