https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/k...ells-1984/

Quote:George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is no longer fiction. We are living it right now.

Google techies planned to massage Internet searches to emphasize correct thinking. A member of the so-called deep state, in an anonymous op-ed, brags that its “resistance” is undermining an elected president. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, and NSC were all weaponized in 2016 to ensure that the proper president would be elected — the choice adjudicated by properly progressive ideology. Wearing a wire is now redefined as simply flipping on an iPhone and recording your boss, boy- or girlfriend, or co-workers.


But never has the reality that we are living in a surreal age been clearer than during the strange cycles of Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

In Orwell’s world of 1984 Oceania, there is no longer a sense of due process, free inquiry, rules of evidence and cross examination, much less a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Instead, regimented ideology — the supremacy of state power to control all aspects of one’s life to enforce a fossilized idea of mandated quality — warps everything from the use of language to private life.

Quote:Newspeak and Doublethink

Statue of limitations? It does not exist. An incident 36 years ago apparently is as fresh today as it was when Kavanaugh was 17 and Ford 15.

Presumption of Innocence? Not at all. Kavanaugh is accused and thereby guilty. The accuser faces no doubt. In Orwellian America, the accused must first present his defense, even though he does not quite know what he is being charged with. Then the accuser and her legal team pour over his testimony to prepare her accusation.

Evidence? That too is a fossilized concept. Ford could name neither the location of the alleged assault nor the date or time. She had no idea how she arrived or left the scene of the alleged crime. There is no physical evidence of an attack. And such lacunae in her memory mattered no longer at all.

Details? Again, such notions are counterrevolutionary. Ford said to her therapist 6 years ago (30 years after the alleged incident) that there were four would-be attackers, at least as recorded in the therapist’s notes.

You are aware the Kavanaugh issue is not a criminal trial, right?

(10-02-2018 10:19 AM)Momus Wrote:  You are aware the Kavanaugh issue is not a criminal trial, right?

You are aware that there is no more evidence in the Kavanaugh issue than there is in my following statement.

"Momus touched me inappropriately several years ago."

How would you feel if people tried to destroy your life and ruin your name simply based on an unverified accusation?

Just because its not a 'criminal' issue does not mean that people deserve the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. This kind of sentiment from people is downright scary. Verifiable facts shouldn't only matter in a criminal investigation.

In a Civil matter it goes by 'The preponderance of the evidence', but in this case there is no more evidence in Ford's statement than my statement above. And in fact, Ford's statement has multiple sworn denials... my statement has no sworn denials. So technically my statement is more believable in a civil court than Fords.

(10-02-2018 10:12 AM)q5sys Wrote:  https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/09/k...ells-1984/

Quote:George Orwell’s 1949 dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four is no longer fiction. We are living it right now.

Google techies planned to massage Internet searches to emphasize correct thinking. A member of the so-called deep state, in an anonymous op-ed, brags that its “resistance” is undermining an elected president. The FBI, CIA, DOJ, and NSC were all weaponized in 2016 to ensure that the proper president would be elected — the choice adjudicated by properly progressive ideology. Wearing a wire is now redefined as simply flipping on an iPhone and recording your boss, boy- or girlfriend, or co-workers.


But never has the reality that we are living in a surreal age been clearer than during the strange cycles of Christine Blasey Ford’s accusations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

In Orwell’s world of 1984 Oceania, there is no longer a sense of due process, free inquiry, rules of evidence and cross examination, much less a presumption of innocence until proven guilty. Instead, regimented ideology — the supremacy of state power to control all aspects of one’s life to enforce a fossilized idea of mandated quality — warps everything from the use of language to private life.

Quote:Newspeak and Doublethink

Statue of limitations? It does not exist. An incident 36 years ago apparently is as fresh today as it was when Kavanaugh was 17 and Ford 15.

Presumption of Innocence? Not at all. Kavanaugh is accused and thereby guilty. The accuser faces no doubt. In Orwellian America, the accused must first present his defense, even though he does not quite know what he is being charged with. Then the accuser and her legal team pour over his testimony to prepare her accusation.

Evidence? That too is a fossilized concept. Ford could name neither the location of the alleged assault nor the date or time. She had no idea how she arrived or left the scene of the alleged crime. There is no physical evidence of an attack. And such lacunae in her memory mattered no longer at all.

Details? Again, such notions are counterrevolutionary. Ford said to her therapist 6 years ago (30 years after the alleged incident) that there were four would-be attackers, at least as recorded in the therapist’s notes.

The response is so easy that nobody will take it. Get rid of cable T.V.. Get rid of cell phones. If you must have a phone make it a landline. Use radio for information. Write letters, not emails, to your significant friends and family. Then the Deep State can't remain aloof to spy on us. They'll have to become visible. Once visible they will not be able to deny their actions and they will be touchable.

It is the reliance upon technology for the sake of ease that is imprisoning us because to get connected we sign away our rights to privacy, waive our right to sue in lieu of arbitration by some amorphous panel of faceless autocrats, and make all of this possible.

So until they can actually replace the constitution we can shut them down or out them.

It's also time to revisit other such notions as freedom of the press. The original concept implied freedom to access the press as well as the presses freedom to access information and print it. The press we have today isn't news. It's all biased by its owners or contributors. Under the original concept the press could be held liable for what it printed. Under today's understanding all they have to do is bury a retraction in the classified section in small print to sidestep their own pooh.

We are getting dangerously close to civil war. That could not be, if this Republic were functioning as such.

You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

Cite your source.

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

Once again, you haven't read beyond the headlines. More spreading fake news. If you posted a link from a halfway reliable source we could point it out to you again.

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 flavors last night. I guess that's direct evidence that it's pretty serious

(10-02-2018 05:55 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 flavors last night. I guess that's direct evidence that it's pretty serious

ain' nothing better than that baskin robins sugar OD....

(10-02-2018 04:20 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

Cite your source.

kavanaugh witness tampering

Google this......

Plethora of articles. Pick one.

My wife was showing me a picture. You've got FBI in body armor and shields at the front door of a suburban home.

"Open up! We're here to investigate a 1982 high school party!

Another line-If you didn't do anything questionable in high school or college, you ARE weird and should be investigated.

I think I have two or three questionable things in college, so I don't need to be investigated.

FFS Mach post one.... Defend your position..

It's not anyone's responsibility to defend your point but yourself.

So I can assume it's left leaning websites, articles that use anonymous sources, or message boards.

(10-02-2018 06:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 04:20 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 04:16 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  You righties should thank your lucky stars this isn’t a criminal trial because there is direct evidence of Kavanaugh witness tampering through text messages. So enough with this innocent until proven guilty nonsense.

Cite your source.

kavanaugh witness tampering

Google this......

Plethora of articles. Pick one.

.... you goofy goofball....

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/legal-e...h-witness/

Quote:Legal Experts: New Text Messages Show Kavanaugh Might Have Tampered with Witness