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(10-04-2018 09:24 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I keep seeing that students with family income less than 61k, assets less than 50k can go to U of I and not pay tuition.

Does NIU or any other state school have similar?

I also heard one of the many similar stories recently about how a kid was going to Missouri for Journalism and they knocked off 15k for being in honors.

I think it's 2 fold. NIU and other public state schools outside of U of I over time have lowered their academics to get in state students while schools in other states targeted the 2nd tier students who could not get into UofI as NIU, ISU once did. Over time these kids have been leaving state and now schools all over are throwing money at IL kids because they are getting kids smarter than what they have at their school, in their state. They are over time increasing academics. One only needs to look at AL recruting in the Chicago area. I heard a claim that almost 1000 kids from IL go there. That may be far fetched, but overall, 56% of students are from other states in the US.

DeKalb was not an ideal spot for campus life 30 years ago. But it had life. I see a dead campus with little life. Closed store fronts,businesses, hotels. Eye sores. Call it what you want, but the scene off Hillcrest/Kimberly/Edgebrooke is NOT a college atmosphere. When you have permanent residents, sec 8 housing that close to campus it makes an impression. People can make every escuse they want about "perception" isn't that bad, the crime numbers at this school/that school are worse. Spare me. Just go to that campus and drive around for an hour on a weekend. Look close. Then ask yourself if you or your kid would want to be there or somewhere else for the same cost, or less and perhaps a better education?

And I think many of the "it's not so bad" preachers are the same ones stating how bad IL is with cost of living, taxes. And those with no ties to NIU ARE seeing it, sending kids out of state. Then ask yourself how DeKalb in spots became like that and why. When you build new housing for students and residents alike what do you do with the old housing? This is what you get.

This is spot on.
10-04-2018 11:28 AM
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(10-04-2018 11:28 AM)Djud Wrote:  
(10-04-2018 09:24 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I keep seeing that students with family income less than 61k, assets less than 50k can go to U of I and not pay tuition.

Does NIU or any other state school have similar?

I also heard one of the many similar stories recently about how a kid was going to Missouri for Journalism and they knocked off 15k for being in honors.

I think it's 2 fold. NIU and other public state schools outside of U of I over time have lowered their academics to get in state students while schools in other states targeted the 2nd tier students who could not get into UofI as NIU, ISU once did. Over time these kids have been leaving state and now schools all over are throwing money at IL kids because they are getting kids smarter than what they have at their school, in their state. They are over time increasing academics. One only needs to look at AL recruting in the Chicago area. I heard a claim that almost 1000 kids from IL go there. That may be far fetched, but overall, 56% of students are from other states in the US.

DeKalb was not an ideal spot for campus life 30 years ago. But it had life. I see a dead campus with little life. Closed store fronts,businesses, hotels. Eye sores. Call it what you want, but the scene off Hillcrest/Kimberly/Edgebrooke is NOT a college atmosphere. When you have permanent residents, sec 8 housing that close to campus it makes an impression. People can make every escuse they want about "perception" isn't that bad, the crime numbers at this school/that school are worse. Spare me. Just go to that campus and drive around for an hour on a weekend. Look close. Then ask yourself if you or your kid would want to be there or somewhere else for the same cost, or less and perhaps a better education?

And I think many of the "it's not so bad" preachers are the same ones stating how bad IL is with cost of living, taxes. And those with no ties to NIU ARE seeing it, sending kids out of state. Then ask yourself how DeKalb in spots became like that and why. When you build new housing for students and residents alike what do you do with the old housing? This is what you get.

This is spot on.

+1 preach! 04-rock
10-04-2018 12:03 PM
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(10-04-2018 09:24 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I also heard one of the many similar stories recently about how a kid was going to Missouri for Journalism and they knocked off 15k for being in honors.
My son applied to only 2 schools - NIU and Mizzou. He got accepted to both. When he visited NIU, it was during an extremely cold day which I remember very well. At Mizzou it was 70 and the beautiful and lively campus and nice downtown and surrounding area made the choice easy for him. Especially because they offered in-state tuition if he stayed in Columbia during the summer and got a MO drivers license. It was a lot cheaper than Illinois schools.
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