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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
As long as it's not a "7th place" finish like last year (4-way tie for 7th, or last depending on how you look at it) they're at least predicting an improvement.
10-31-2018 04:48 PM
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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
FWIW, individual game tickets for both MBB and WBB are now available online at the jmusports.com site.

Also, there is an informational note at the MBB ticket page advising a mini-plan package would be available today, but I don't see it...yet. Not sure if they are offering that this season. I guess we'll see.

I'd like to see the ticket office be a little more creative offering some mini-packages. For example, perhaps a 5-game weekend package at a competitive price for the 5 Saturday CAA home games in Jan+Feb. I know some fans who can't make a weeknight game but would probably jump at a plan for Saturday games. And, I do realize folks can just buy 5 individual tickets, but a reasonably priced 5-game package that offers savings over buying individual game tickets with a perk or two thrown in (parking pass perhaps, popcorn & soft drink, etc.) might help get a few more hind parts into seats at the Convo this winter. Just a thought...
11-01-2018 08:05 AM
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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
(10-30-2018 10:30 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 05:55 PM)2Buck Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 04:15 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 04:00 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I’d be shocked if HCLR is not here next season, barring a season of <5 wins.

You can kiss Lewis, banks and those top recruits goodbye if Rowe is not back.

And then it’s just starting over........again.

exactly. the core of this team is going to be sophmores and freshman, with a great class coming in next year. You gotta see what Lou can do with them as jrs and sophs.

It is going to be a moot point. Big things for dukes hoops this year.

I have no doubts about the recruits and the talent. I have no doubts his players will be energized to do their best to win. But can Coach Rowe coach? I'm not just talking about motivating the players and assembling a balanced team- can he improve their skills, can he introduce schemes and plays that leverage player strengths, can he plan and make adjustments for opponents, etc?

Basically, can he make the whole better than the sum of its parts? I'm not qualified to judge that, but what I did see in the last 2 years were flashes of good performances off-set by too many blown leads and late-game meltdowns. The teams seemed to under-perform a bit. Maybe now they he's got "his guys" and can do things his way there will be a difference. I want to believe that.

Who out there can give a good assessment of LR's coaching ability? Sure he has to grow with experience, but is this something he can do on his own with the skill set he has? If he's truly a bright young basketball mind that just needs some guidance I'd feel much better about giving him a much longer leash.

Wins and Losses are the barometer- there are plenty of examples of coaches who started poorly Jay Wright, Ed Cooley, Bill Self, etc. in their first 2 years only to turn it around- less precedent for guys who struggled in their first 3 years.

I believe Rowe has shown signs of being a good coach (not just a good recruiter) but ultimately it's wins and losses in terms of how will be judged. Player development- heck even the development of Jackson Kent and Lukic the first year or how Banks, Lewis and some of the younger bigs improved throughout their freshman season.

If kids show they want to improve and be better Rowe has the ability to help them in that journey. He knows basketball. Getting better as a team (sum better than the individual parts) more assists, less turnovers, better team defense as the year went on last year and year 2 vs. year 1.

Things are looking up and there are reasons to be optimistic for this season.

NJDuke97, I am curious what you are seeing or hearing that has led you to feel that HCLR is showing signs of being a good coach.

I think that some of the things that are more obvious to fans - late game game management and play calls out of timeouts - have shown a good deal of room for growth in Lou. However, I am a big believer that much of coaching should (and better) occur before game time.

Is it the improvement of players on the roster? The team’s seeming cohesiveness and lack of off court problems? The respect that the players seem to have for Lou? Other things?
11-01-2018 11:43 AM
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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
(11-01-2018 11:43 AM)Purple Pilgrim Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 10:30 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 05:55 PM)2Buck Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 04:15 PM)PGJMU2 Wrote:  
(10-30-2018 04:00 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I’d be shocked if HCLR is not here next season, barring a season of <5 wins.

You can kiss Lewis, banks and those top recruits goodbye if Rowe is not back.

And then it’s just starting over........again.

exactly. the core of this team is going to be sophmores and freshman, with a great class coming in next year. You gotta see what Lou can do with them as jrs and sophs.

It is going to be a moot point. Big things for dukes hoops this year.

I have no doubts about the recruits and the talent. I have no doubts his players will be energized to do their best to win. But can Coach Rowe coach? I'm not just talking about motivating the players and assembling a balanced team- can he improve their skills, can he introduce schemes and plays that leverage player strengths, can he plan and make adjustments for opponents, etc?

Basically, can he make the whole better than the sum of its parts? I'm not qualified to judge that, but what I did see in the last 2 years were flashes of good performances off-set by too many blown leads and late-game meltdowns. The teams seemed to under-perform a bit. Maybe now they he's got "his guys" and can do things his way there will be a difference. I want to believe that.

Who out there can give a good assessment of LR's coaching ability? Sure he has to grow with experience, but is this something he can do on his own with the skill set he has? If he's truly a bright young basketball mind that just needs some guidance I'd feel much better about giving him a much longer leash.

Wins and Losses are the barometer- there are plenty of examples of coaches who started poorly Jay Wright, Ed Cooley, Bill Self, etc. in their first 2 years only to turn it around- less precedent for guys who struggled in their first 3 years.

I believe Rowe has shown signs of being a good coach (not just a good recruiter) but ultimately it's wins and losses in terms of how will be judged. Player development- heck even the development of Jackson Kent and Lukic the first year or how Banks, Lewis and some of the younger bigs improved throughout their freshman season.

If kids show they want to improve and be better Rowe has the ability to help them in that journey. He knows basketball. Getting better as a team (sum better than the individual parts) more assists, less turnovers, better team defense as the year went on last year and year 2 vs. year 1.

Things are looking up and there are reasons to be optimistic for this season.

NJDuke97, I am curious what you are seeing or hearing that has led you to feel that HCLR is showing signs of being a good coach.

I think that some of the things that are more obvious to fans - late game game management and play calls out of timeouts - have shown a good deal of room for growth in Lou. However, I am a big believer that much of coaching should (and better) occur before game time.

Is it the improvement of players on the roster? The team’s seeming cohesiveness and lack of off court problems? The respect that the players seem to have for Lou? Other things?

Purple Pilgrim- I'll caveat my post by saying that we all have biases and mine is toward rooting for Coach Rowe and giving him the benefit of the doubt as a young/emerging head coach.

Others may have biases against Coach Rowe- whether it was him being hired in the first place, liking the past coach/thinking he was good, to Coach Rowe's style, to his demeanor on the sidelines or even how he handles the press. With all this said, I believe if you closely watch the program the last few years and are somewhat fair about assessing Coach Rowe you can come away believing that he possesses the traits of a good coach.

Ultimately, you are your record and his record thus far has been poor but I look at not only the final score but how the team plays, their development, and other variables. Here are a few:

Rapport with Players and Staff- based on sitting behind the bench multiple games- Coach Rowe while a young coach commands respect from his players and coaches. He has a quiet confidence about him and you can tell the players like playing for him. He lets the players play but gives feedback throughout the games.

Team cohesion- the team despite ample opportunities to get down on themselves and each other play together and are cohesive in the huddle.

Defense- the metrics support that Coach Rowe's teams play sound defense. This is a tenant of his coaching philosophy. I believe it will only get better as the players develop more maturity and raise their IQ.

Energy/Effort/Fight- his teams have played with consistent effort which shows that he continues to motivate his players despite some bad results.

I believe Coach Rowe is a leader who has instilled a culture and system at JMU. The young men he is recruiting to JMU seem like good kids on and off the floor who have their heads screwed on straight and are hungry to prove themselves and to win together.

Some will point to late game losses as an indictment of his coaching acumen. I believe his teams fight and execute relatively well given their youth to stay in these games. They will learn to execute better at the end of games to turn these close losses into wins.

He isn't without fault for some of the losses but the convenient thing is to blame the coach during close losses (especially if you just look at the box score and don't watch the entire game) but I believe with maturity those losses will turn to wins- it already started trending that way late last year.
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11-01-2018 06:19 PM
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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
On additional note on Coach Rowe that I like- he clearly had and has a vision for the program and has been steadfast in that. The easy thing to do would be to waiver especially early on when you aren't having success. He has stuck to his plan and I think it is going to start bearing fruit this season. No short cuts- that is a great trait and someone who is clearly confident in his ability to lead- not indicative of someone who is over his head or doesn't have the chops to be a good coach.
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(11-01-2018 06:38 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  On additional note on Coach Rowe that I like- he clearly had and has a vision for the program and has been steadfast in that. The easy thing to do would be to waiver especially early on when you aren't having success. He has stuck to his plan and I think it is going to start bearing fruit this season. No short cuts- that is a great trait and someone who is clearly confident in his ability to lead- not indicative of someone who is over his head or doesn't have the chops to be a good coach.

This is an excellent point. He knows what kind of players he wants and the types of players he wants at each position. He also knows the type of team he wants to put out there. Through these few years of struggles he has been steadfast in the type of program he wants. He has admitted that he has had a lot to learn as a head coach and I think each year he has improved. I hope this year he will continue to improve. He has certainly improved in pressers in my opinion. While it doesn't have much bearing on the team or its success, I do think it shows he is trying to improve in every facet of what he can do and I totally respect that.
Now I just want to see the hard work translate to wins. Last year the team played hard but couldn't turn many of them into wins (although there were a TON of games that could have easily been wins if a few things were improved). Also I want to finally see a JMU team that that makes some noise come tournament time.
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RE: 2018 hoops preseason
TV/streaming round up...

1. I am going on assumption that all home games will be streamed live via MadiZone and all road CAA games will be streamed live via stretch/caa.tv via the home school's productions.

2. Now, for non-CAA road games, this is what I have so far...

Nov. 9 at EZU - confirmed ESPN-3

Nov. 16 at Charlotte - UNCC site says it will be streamed live via UNCC TV, which I assume is their equivalent of MadiZone, but I do not know if that is CUSA.tv and I don't know (yet) whether it is free or PPV

Nov. 23 at Oakland - confirmed ESPN-3

Nov. 24 vs Northern Illinois & Nov. 25 vs ORU - likely will be no video with games at Oakland...radio streaming and/or live stats (note, only Oakland's [home] games each of the 3 days will be streamed via ESPN-3)

Dec. 1 at ODU - confirmed ESPN+

Dec. 7 at Mason - confirmed MASN TV

Dec. 20 at Fordham - they haven't posted it yet, but I think this will eventually wind up on ESPN+...a few of their early-season home games are scheduled to be streamed live via ESPN+ and it looks like the A-10's arrangement with ESPN will get many, if not all, of their home games not set for TV at minimum streamed via ESPN+
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(10-30-2018 04:00 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  I’d be shocked if HCLR is not here next season, barring a season of <5 wins.

You can kiss Lewis, banks and those top recruits goodbye if Rowe is not back.

And then it’s just starting over........again.


That box is checked and we're only in November. 03-cloud9
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