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Teacher says she was fired for giving zeroes to students
Quote:PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (WPEC) — A teacher in Port St. Lucie, Florida claims she was fired for refusing to give students partial credit for work that is never handed in.

“I got fired. I was packing my stuff, and I was not going to see the kids,” Diane Tirado said.

Mrs. Tirado didn’t get to say goodbye to her student physically, so she wrote her message on a whiteboard instead.

“Bye kids, Mrs. Tirado loves you and wishes you the best in life! I have been fired for refusing to give you a 50% for not handing anything in. [heart] Mrs. Tirado.”

She snapped a photo of it and shared it on Facebook. Then, the messages from her eighth-grade students started pouring in.

“You showed me to be responsible for my work and the things that I do. I hope you don’t forget me,” one student wrote.

Mrs. Tirado has been a teacher for more than 17 years. The 52-year-old began working at West Gate K-8 School this year as an eighth-grade social studies teacher.

She says she gave her students two weeks to complete an explorer’s notebook project but says some of them didn’t turn it in.

That’s when she says she learned about a no-zero grading policy, written in red in the school’s handbook, stating, “NO ZERO’S – LOWEST POSSIBLE GRADE IS 50%.”

Tirado says this sends the wrong message.

“If there’s nothing to grade, how can I give somebody a 50 percent?” she asked.

Her Sept. 14 termination letter doesn’t cite a specific reason, only stating she was contracted as a teacher on a probation period, and that she can be dismissed without cause.

Her message on her classroom’s whiteboard has been shared hundreds of times, with messages from other parents and teachers congratulating her on standing her ground.

Tonight, she is calling for change because she believes the grading policy at West Gate K-8 School won’t help students in the long run.

Diane Tirado
6 hours ago

Good morning! I am reading all the posts you have written and reflecting upon them. The reason I took on this fight was because it was ridiculous. Teaching should not be this hard. Teachers teach content, children do the assignments to the best of their ability and teachers grade that work based on a grading scale that has been around a very long time. Teachers also provide numerous attempts to get the work collected so they can give a child a grade. By nature, most teachers are loving souls who want to see students succeed. We do above and beyond actual teaching to give them the support they need. Are we perfect? NO. We make mistakes like all other human beings, but I know teachers work their butts off to help children to be the best people they can be!!!


“I’m arguing the fact that you don’t get something for nothing. I want the policy changed, and it’s not just here,” she said.

There are zeros found in the grading scale above the “no zero’s” wording on the West Gate Student and Parent Handbook, which adds confusion, Tirado said.

WPEC is still waiting to hear back from St. Lucie Public Schools as of late Monday night.

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I believe it.

Those policies are common.

In the district that my wife works they justify it as grading behavior instead of work.

A kid can literally refuse to even write their name on the test and must be given a 40. A kid can never turn in an assignment and must also receive a 40. A kid can turn in an assignment anytime after its due and cannot have points deducted.

There is no such thing as a decent publican education in the United States.
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(09-25-2018 01:48 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe it.

Those policies are common.

In the district that my wife works they justify it as grading behavior instead of work.

A kid can literally refuse to even write their name on the test and must be given a 40. A kid can never turn in an assignment and must also receive a 40. A kid can turn in an assignment anytime after its due and cannot have points deducted.

There is no such thing as a decent publican education in the United States.

A high school English teacher of mine caught two students plagiarizing and gave them zero's. Principal came and said she could not do that. The teacher said this is my last year. She was a good teacher too.

It all comes down to accountability. Most people, especially those on the left, do not want to be held accountable for their actions.
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While it is a stupid policy, she deserved to be fired. I don't know about any of you, but I don't get to pick and choose the policies I follow at my job and not expect discipline.
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(09-25-2018 02:12 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  While it is a stupid policy, she deserved to be fired. I don't know about any of you, but I don't get to pick and choose the policies I follow at my job and not expect discipline.

Most of the time they are unwritten rules.

The official policy is you give the kids the grades they deserve. The other unwritten rule is you can't give zeros.
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maybe this is why the florida schools are ranked so high.

lol
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(09-25-2018 01:48 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe it.

Those policies are common.

In the district that my wife works they justify it as grading behavior instead of work.

A kid can literally refuse to even write their name on the test and must be given a 40. A kid can never turn in an assignment and must also receive a 40. A kid can turn in an assignment anytime after its due and cannot have points deducted.

There is no such thing as a decent publican education in the United States.


In some cases, teachers do allow some students time to hand in their assignments when the students have a learning disability. My teachers gave me extra time because I learn slowly when I have trouble saying and reading words which I struggle at times to even get right. I always keep saying New Hamster instead of New Hampshire, Yello instead of yellow, witch instead of which, **** instead of sit, elelelephant instead of elephant and so forth. That is why kids called me a retard and all that.
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(09-25-2018 03:02 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-25-2018 01:48 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I believe it.

Those policies are common.

In the district that my wife works they justify it as grading behavior instead of work.

A kid can literally refuse to even write their name on the test and must be given a 40. A kid can never turn in an assignment and must also receive a 40. A kid can turn in an assignment anytime after its due and cannot have points deducted.

There is no such thing as a decent publican education in the United States.


In some cases, teachers do allow some students time to hand in their assignments when the students have a learning disability. My teachers gave me extra time because I learn slowly when I have trouble saying and reading words which I struggle at times to even get right. I always keep saying New Hamster instead of New Hampshire, Yello instead of yellow, witch instead of which, **** instead of sit, elelelephant instead of elephant and so forth. That is why kids called me a retard and all that.

I think everybody is strongly in favor of helping kids like yourself in any way we can.

I don't think the same is true of a normal kid that simply doesn't want to do any assignments or bother to take the test. Unfortunately, those are a lot more common than kids with needs.

Besides, special education law gives kids like yourself IEPs etc. which help greatly.

A lot of the general education kids simply know how to work the system and the system allows it.
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(09-25-2018 02:12 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  While it is a stupid policy, she deserved to be fired. I don't know about any of you, but I don't get to pick and choose the policies I follow at my job and not expect discipline.

If she was a football player it would've been cool, though.
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thats why we have a bunch of entitled rotten kids running around, because you still reward them without them doing something for it.
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(09-25-2018 01:44 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  
Quote:PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (WPEC) — A teacher in Port St. Lucie, Florida claims she was fired for refusing to give students partial credit for work that is never handed in.

“I got fired. I was packing my stuff, and I was not going to see the kids,” Diane Tirado said.

Mrs. Tirado didn’t get to say goodbye to her student physically, so she wrote her message on a whiteboard instead.

“Bye kids, Mrs. Tirado loves you and wishes you the best in life! I have been fired for refusing to give you a 50% for not handing anything in. [heart] Mrs. Tirado.”

She snapped a photo of it and shared it on Facebook. Then, the messages from her eighth-grade students started pouring in.

“You showed me to be responsible for my work and the things that I do. I hope you don’t forget me,” one student wrote.

Mrs. Tirado has been a teacher for more than 17 years. The 52-year-old began working at West Gate K-8 School this year as an eighth-grade social studies teacher.

She says she gave her students two weeks to complete an explorer’s notebook project but says some of them didn’t turn it in.

That’s when she says she learned about a no-zero grading policy, written in red in the school’s handbook, stating, “NO ZERO’S – LOWEST POSSIBLE GRADE IS 50%.”

Tirado says this sends the wrong message.

“If there’s nothing to grade, how can I give somebody a 50 percent?” she asked.

Her Sept. 14 termination letter doesn’t cite a specific reason, only stating she was contracted as a teacher on a probation period, and that she can be dismissed without cause.

Her message on her classroom’s whiteboard has been shared hundreds of times, with messages from other parents and teachers congratulating her on standing her ground.

Tonight, she is calling for change because she believes the grading policy at West Gate K-8 School won’t help students in the long run.

Diane Tirado
6 hours ago

Good morning! I am reading all the posts you have written and reflecting upon them. The reason I took on this fight was because it was ridiculous. Teaching should not be this hard. Teachers teach content, children do the assignments to the best of their ability and teachers grade that work based on a grading scale that has been around a very long time. Teachers also provide numerous attempts to get the work collected so they can give a child a grade. By nature, most teachers are loving souls who want to see students succeed. We do above and beyond actual teaching to give them the support they need. Are we perfect? NO. We make mistakes like all other human beings, but I know teachers work their butts off to help children to be the best people they can be!!!


“I’m arguing the fact that you don’t get something for nothing. I want the policy changed, and it’s not just here,” she said.

There are zeros found in the grading scale above the “no zero’s” wording on the West Gate Student and Parent Handbook, which adds confusion, Tirado said.

WPEC is still waiting to hear back from St. Lucie Public Schools as of late Monday night.

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I can't say I'm surprised anymore. This is what happens when we become concerned about how Susie and Johnny feel instead of about what they know.

So now everybody gets a participation trophy, but if you don't participate at all you get a participation trophy anyway only it's half the size of the those who actually do the work.

I suppose nothing builds self esteem like praising the lazy and the ignorant. And nothing builds a work force quite like those who have never been expected to produce and nothing fills prisons like those who have never been corrected or punished.

It's the perfect recipe for the future political success of a certain party, a generation of people who expect free stuff, and who have never been taught how to think, let alone how to work for self determination.
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So because some students decided they didn't want to do there work, which they had a 2 week time frame to do in, the teacher rightfully in my book gave them zeros, she is fired and now that class will be disrupted by a slew of subs or have a long term sub until the end of the semester, which results in the students having to adjust to different subs or a long term sub's way of teaching. Then when they finally get a new permanent teacher they have to readjust all over again, all because of selfish little ***** who were too lazy to do their work.
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(09-25-2018 03:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  thats why we have a bunch of entitled rotten kids running around, because you still reward them without them doing something for it.

Yep.


Several of my wife's friends from college are teachers. The stories the tell about their job doe not give me hope for the future, even the ones who teach in out very conservative school district.
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(09-25-2018 06:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-25-2018 03:40 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  thats why we have a bunch of entitled rotten kids running around, because you still reward them without them doing something for it.

Yep.


Several of my wife's friends from college are teachers. The stories the tell about their job doe not give me hope for the future, even the ones who teach in out very conservative school district.

thats why I have told my wife that we are going to either send our kids to private school or home school them, because I do not trust our public school system anymore, and my wife is a middle school teacher too.
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These policies are why we have soooooo many snowflakes today.


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