Cyclones replace Jackrabbits with Incarnate Word.
Cornhuskers replace Zips with Bethune-Cookman.

incredible

(09-20-2018 09:58 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Cyclones replace Jackrabbits with Incarnate Word.
Cornhuskers replace Zips with Bethune-Cookman.

So, faced with the opportunity to UPGRADE the schedule to someone like UCF, Nebraska chose to sign up an FCS team from another state...

Nebraska doesn't have a good team this season. They are not scheduling (rescheduling) to win a title or get highly ranked, they're just hoping to win 6 games instead of 5 this year, or maybe 4 games instead of 3.

And, it's the Nebraska coach's job to try to win as many games as he can for Nebraska. It's not his job to help other teams get "better games", or whatever. Don't know why people pretend to be shocked when a team acts in its own self interest.

(09-21-2018 09:52 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Nebraska doesn't have a good team this season. They are not scheduling (rescheduling) to win a title or get highly ranked, they're just hoping to win 6 games instead of 5 this year, or maybe 4 games instead of 3.

And, it's the Nebraska coach's job to try to win as many games as he can for Nebraska. It's not his job to help other teams get "better games", or whatever. Don't know why people pretend to be shocked when a team acts in its own self interest.

I see what you're saying, but consider this: if the Huskers are not playing for a championship, why not beef up the schedule for the sake of the fans? I'm sure they'd MUCH rather see a ranked FBS team across the field than some FCS team they've never played before... who wants to pay his hard-earned money to see that?

(09-21-2018 10:05 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-21-2018 09:52 AM)Wedge Wrote:  Nebraska doesn't have a good team this season. They are not scheduling (rescheduling) to win a title or get highly ranked, they're just hoping to win 6 games instead of 5 this year, or maybe 4 games instead of 3.

And, it's the Nebraska coach's job to try to win as many games as he can for Nebraska. It's not his job to help other teams get "better games", or whatever. Don't know why people pretend to be shocked when a team acts in its own self interest.

I see what you're saying, but consider this: if the Huskers are not playing for a championship, why not beef up the schedule for the sake of the fans? I'm sure they'd MUCH rather see a ranked FBS team across the field than some FCS team they've never played before... who wants to pay his hard-earned money to see that?

Fans, especially older fans that have been as spoiled over the last 50 years as Huskers fans, want their team to win games. Period. Maybe you and I and everyone else who is not a Nebraska fan would be entertained by seeing this year's bad Nebraska team schedule a game that they would likely lose, but that's not how their fans look at it.

If a head coach doesn't win enough games, he's not going to be the coach there for very long. Even when it is a local hero like Scott Frost -- there are many examples of teams whose administration and fans ran off "one of their own" after he failed to win enough games.

2 or 3 years from now, if Frost is on the hot seat, Huskers people will think about how many games he won, not that he scheduled Bethune-Cookman to replace Akron.

(09-21-2018 08:05 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-20-2018 09:58 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Cyclones replace Jackrabbits with Incarnate Word.
Cornhuskers replace Zips with Bethune-Cookman.

So, faced with the opportunity to UPGRADE the schedule to someone like UCF, Nebraska chose to sign up an FCS team from another state...

It actually makes sense to me. Nebraska is not a good football team right now. He in fact said things could get worse before they get better.

https://saturdaytradition.com/nebraska-f...ts-better/

He's trying to build a little confidence and doesn't see any sense for Nebraska to get hammered by UCF just because some outsiders want to see that game. Taking baby steps so to speak.

While not being familiar with the particular time frames and schedules in question, I would imagine availability is a prime concern.

You can't play a team that already has a game scheduled or isn't willing to break a contract unless it's for a better payday.

There tends to be a lot of flexibility with FCS schools.

(09-21-2018 12:34 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  While not being familiar with the particular time frames and schedules in question, I would imagine availability is a prime concern.

You can't play a team that already has a game scheduled or isn't willing to break a contract unless it's for a better payday.

There tends to be a lot of flexibility with FCS schools.

I brought up UCF because they have the same bye week as Nebraska, both lost a game due to hurricanes, and the current Nebraska head coach was at UCF last year...

Another point is that the FBS conferences have only themselves to blame for the fact that it's more difficult now to reschedule cancelled football games in the same season.

They locked in the week after Thanksgiving for CCGs -- that used to be a convenient week for make-up games.

They set up the CFP which has a selection process that locks teams into finishing all games no later than that Saturday of the week after Thanksgiving -- another limitation that didn't exist until recently.

They added an extra game to the regular season, and between that extra game and the CCGs, they should have added an extra week for playing regular season games -- but they haven't done that, with the minor exception of the week zero rule that is available only to teams that play a game in Hawai'i that season.

(09-21-2018 03:47 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Another point is that the FBS conferences have only themselves to blame for the fact that it's more difficult now to reschedule cancelled football games in the same season.

They locked in the week after Thanksgiving for CCGs -- that used to be a convenient week for make-up games.

They set up the CFP which has a selection process that locks teams into finishing all games no later than that Saturday of the week after Thanksgiving -- another limitation that didn't exist until recently.

They added an extra game to the regular season, and between that extra game and the CCGs, they should have added an extra week for playing regular season games -- but they haven't done that, with the minor exception of the week zero rule that is available only to teams that play a game in Hawai'i that season.

The bowls don't help either. You could beg and plead to play the second Saturday in December alongside Army-Navy but if you are in Sun Belt (3), CUSA (2), MWC (2), MAC (1), AAC (1) Pac-12 (1) , you have bowl ties on the third Saturday in December. So if you get win #6 on December 8 you are probably headed to a December 15 game and contractually obligated to arrive at the bowl site on December 11 or 12 at the latest.

i tought Frost did not want to give his team wrong impression with who they sch & when.
Beth Cook, No way we lose this game

It's also a matter of how contracts. UCF might have been pushing for a home and home or 2-1 when Nebraska was just looking for a one and done.

That said, given both had bye weeks that week, competition was probably biggest factor. Year hasn't started great. No reason to pile on in the middle of the conference slate at this point from their perspective most likely.

have you seen that conf slate
talk like how superior P5 is
now sacred to play
which one is it

Perhaps the NCAA needs to legislate that all cancelled games, if unable to be rescheduled sooner, are required to be made up the first weekend in December unless one or more of the participants is playing in their Conference title game or FCS playoffs.

(09-23-2018 07:35 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Perhaps the NCAA needs to legislate that all cancelled games, if unable to be rescheduled sooner, are required to be made up the first weekend in December unless one or more of the participants is playing in their Conference title game or FCS playoffs.

Games are cancelled and not rescheduled in many collegiate sports, not just football. It would be silly for the NCAA to try and seize control of every school's scheduling or rescheduling. For example, there are dozens of D-I baseball and softball games each year that are rained out and not rescheduled. Many times a baseball or softball team that has games rained out will grab whomever they can to fit another game or series into their schedule, similar to what the football teams mentioned in this thread have done.

(09-23-2018 09:44 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-23-2018 07:35 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Perhaps the NCAA needs to legislate that all cancelled games, if unable to be rescheduled sooner, are required to be made up the first weekend in December unless one or more of the participants is playing in their Conference title game or FCS playoffs.

Games are cancelled and not rescheduled in many collegiate sports, not just football. It would be silly for the NCAA to try and seize control of every school's scheduling or rescheduling. For example, there are dozens of D-I baseball and softball games each year that are rained out and not rescheduled. Many times a baseball or softball team that has games rained out will grab whomever they can to fit another game or series into their schedule, similar to what the football teams mentioned in this thread have done.

Football rescheduling is harder because the allowed dates are compressed considering the number of games played and no one is going to play closer than five days. Baseball has no issue playing Sunday then again on Monday unless they need Monday to be their mandatory day off.

NCAA obviously can't fix the negotiations between teams, the only thing they can do is remove a game from the schedule to create space (ie. go back to an 11 game schedule) or add a week to the season, either Week 0 on the front end or moving the last legal date to the second Saturday in December.