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(09-19-2018 01:00 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-19-2018 12:49 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Kavanaugh accuser wants FBI investigation before she will testify

So this is clearly about delay and not about seeing justice done.

Subpoena her, and see how she responds.

Ummmm don't you all see Feinsteins hand stuffed up the back of this woman's back like a ventriloquist? I didn't see Feinstein's lips move or quiver even once. This is a desperation effort to stall. If only it wasn't so uncertain who will control the House/Senate.
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(09-19-2018 02:13 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  This is just a miniature version of what is being done to Trump now. Make accusations and demand an investigation and gum up the works. Republicans need to get a pair and hold the vote.

got that right.
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So has she decided to show up or not?!? First it was not before FBI investigation, I heard one report that said her lawyer has a list of conditions for a interview but not on Monday so what is it? Yes or No. One senator also said it would be good to end the Kavanaugh nomination and hold the seat open until after 2020 election. Well we certainly know the motivation don't we.
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But the text of the released letter from the accuser to Feinstein lacks specific details of the incident. And notice... the letter released is dated July 30. The meeting with Eshoo was July 20 according to the story. How can anyone deliver a letter that apparently didn't exist?


"The California lawmaker who first heard Christine Blasey Ford's allegations of sexual assault against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh said Wednesday that she became convinced of Ford's credibility during a lengthy in-person meeting in July and that Ford seemed "terrified" that she might be exposed as an accuser.

Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Calif., met July 20 for roughly 90 minutes with Ford, who lives in her Bay Area district and is a professor of psychology at Palo Alto University, after Ford contacted Eshoo's office about Kavanaugh.

"It was more than obvious to me that she bore the scars of what she had been subjected to," Eshoo said in an interview with The Washington Post on Wednesday. "She doesn't have a political bone in her body. 03-lmfao And she obviously was really terrified about what could become of her and her family.

"At the end of the meeting, I told her that I believed her," she added. "In telling her story, you know, there were details to it, and I believed her."

Details in an interview, but the details weren't in the letter. Wouldn't you put details in the initial communication... or do you need time to research fabricate a narrative?

Eshoo should testify as well Monday.

Eshoo's role in bringing Ford's allegations to light makes her a minor player in a riveting Washington drama whose climax is still to come. Republicans have sharply questioned why it took weeks for Democrats to raise the accusation - airing it only after Kavanaugh underwent weeks of vetting and sat for days of hearings - with some accusing Democrats of staging an ambush.

Eshoo said her actions were dictated by Ford's desire for complete confidentiality about her allegations as she worked through whether and how to bring them to the attention of those vetting Kavanaugh and, potentially, the public.

Ford's request for discretion was observed to the point, Eshoo said, that in her office only she and one other senior aide were fully aware of Ford's claims. When Eshoo and Ford mutually decided to take the matter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Ford's letter laying out her account was hand-delivered to a Feinstein aide in Washington, Eshoo said: "In other words, you don't drop it off at the receptionist's desk."

https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/I-to...242432.php

The Letter.....

July 30 2018
CONFIDENTIAL

Senator Dianne Feinstein
Dear Senator Feinstein;
I am writing with information relevant in evaluating the current nominee to the Supreme Court.
As a constituent, I expect that you will maintain this as confidential until we have further opportunity to speak.
Brett Kavanaugh physically and sexually assaulted me during high school in the early 1980's. He conducted these acts with the assistance of REDACTED.
Both were one to two years older than me and students at a local private school.
The assault occurred in a suburban Maryland area home at a gathering that included me and four others.
Kavanaugh physically pushed me into a bedroom as I was headed for a bathroom up a short stair well from the living room. They locked the door and played loud music precluding any successful attempt to yell for help.
Kavanaugh was on top of me while laughing with REDACTED, who periodically jumped onto Kavanaugh. They both laughed as Kavanaugh tried to disrobe me in their highly inebriated state. With Kavanaugh's hand over my mouth I feared he may inadvertently kill me.
From across the room a very drunken REDACTED said mixed words to Kavanaugh ranging from "go for it" to "stop."
At one point when REDACTED jumped onto the bed the weight on me was substantial. The pile toppled, and the two scrapped with each other. After a few attempts to get away, I was able to take this opportune moment to get up and run across to a hallway bathroom. I locked the bathroom door behind me. Both loudly stumbled down the stair well at which point other persons at the house were talking with them. I exited the bathroom, ran outside of the house and went home.
I have not knowingly seen Kavanaugh since the assault. I did see REDACTED once at the REDACTED where he was extremely uncomfortable seeing me.
I have received medical treatment regarding the assault. On July 6 I notified my local government representative to ask them how to proceed with sharing this information . It is upsetting to discuss sexual assault and its repercussions, yet I felt guilty and compelled as a citizen about the idea of not saying anything.

I am available to speak further should you wish to discuss. I am currently REDACTED and will be in REDACTED.
In confidence, REDACTED.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/16/polit...index.html

UPDATE: The timeline and facts keep changing...

So Ford and Eshoo did meet over tea and cookies in her office in California on July 20, where they had a detailed talk.

Tex days later the vague letter to Feinstein is written. Why not include the details in the letter? Did Eshoo's staff draft the letter or did Ford? Why weren't the "details" related in the conversation between Ford and Eshoo included in the letter to Feinstein??


"Christine Blasey Ford, the California clinical psychology professor who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were in high school, did not first share her story with Congress in the widely reported anonymous letter to Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

A week before she wrote that letter on July 30, Ford sat down at a conference table in Palo Alto, California, to share her story with Democratic Rep. Anna Eshoo, her congresswoman.

Eshoo described that conversation — which took place over coffee, tea, and cookies on July 20 — to the San Jose Mercury News in a 45-minute interview this week.

“At the end of the meeting, I told her I believed her,” Eshoo told the Mercury News.

Eshoo hand-delivered Ford’s now-infamous letter to Feinstein, her longtime California Democratic senator.

Ford told the Washington Post she was afraid Kavanaugh might “inadvertently kill” her during a party in the early 1980s, alleging that the Supreme Court nominee pinned her to a bed and groped her over a one-piece bathing suit."

https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/r...gh-accuser

So the details are shared with Eshoo, a vague letter is sent to Feinstein, and then a detailed interview with The Washington Post is later conducted.

This is down right fabrication.
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(09-19-2018 06:46 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(09-19-2018 02:13 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  This is just a miniature version of what is being done to Trump now. Make accusations and demand an investigation and gum up the works. Republicans need to get a pair and hold the vote.

got that right.

that's what the Donald has been trying to do the entire time.....

the right turned into a pocketful of pussification.....

they're dippos too....

and buh-bye Sesisons come Nov.....POS

as predicted, this game is getting ready git it on like donkey kong.....however, the donks are going to get dunked AGAIN.....
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(09-19-2018 03:25 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(09-19-2018 01:00 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-19-2018 12:49 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Kavanaugh accuser wants FBI investigation before she will testify

So this is clearly about delay and not about seeing justice done.

Subpoena her, and see how she responds.

Ummmm don't you all see Feinsteins hand stuffed up the back of this woman's back like a ventriloquist? I didn't see Feinstein's lips move or quiver even once. This is a desperation effort to stall. If only it wasn't so uncertain who will control the House/Senate.

In this particular case, the House has nothing to do with it. The Senate will stay pub. That said, go scorched earth on their sorry butts. Tell 'em how it's gonna be and if they don't want to play, then play without them. Take the vote. If a pub or two joins the enemy, so be it. Stand on your principles and don't look back. This man deserves a vote.
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(09-20-2018 11:40 AM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/buskerjames/status/1...2554491904

SHOW US YOUR T(W)EETS

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she is now saying she will testify if Congress can guarantee her safety... and it she can't do it Monday..
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(09-20-2018 02:48 PM)No Bull Wrote:  she is now saying she will testify if Congress can guarantee her safety... and it she can't do it Monday..

She'll say next Friday. Then when Friday comes, she'll have a new demand.

Hold the line. Show Monday, or we're voting.
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Ford has a PHD in Psychology and has taught that subject at several universities to hundreds of students, some of which have or will become Counselors or Psychologists. I thought one of the subjects taught in psychology classes is "Coping Mechanisms". HOW does Dr. Ford teach psychology and cannot use a coping mechanism to get over her real or imagined trauma?

Why does she need prep time to testify before the Senate committee? IF it is true... (and I doubt that it is) she's had 35 years to think what she would say to the accused about the assault. She worked with a lawyer to write the letter to Feinstein, she took a lie detector test. She even told her STORY to a CA state senator in July. She's had plenty of rehearsal it's show time.

Kavanaugh was blindsided by the lie a few days ago and his ready to defend himself. Ford is in no more danger than Kavanaugh both have received death threats so both are going into Monday's meeting under the same stress.
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Here is my question. There's been all this focus on Ford. But what about Kavanaugh?

How common is it for a man to do what Kavanaugh is alleged to have done one time and not repeat it? My sense is that it is extremely rare, but I don't have any factual knowledge. Can anyone shed any light on that?

The other celebrated cases where abuse of women has been alleged or proved--Trump, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Ted (Blonde-in-the-Pond) Kennedy, Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas--all seem to have involved multiple repeated offenses of similar character. OK, Ted only killed one woman, but his reputation as a repeat womanizer was well known.

What I see right now is a choice between two unlikely scenarios--one a conspiracy theory that democrats have made this all up out of nothing, and the other that Kavanaugh was a rapist for two minutes out of his whole life but never before or since. Quite frankly, I find both difficult to believe, but I don't have any alternative scenarios or explanations.
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What awful, unethical trash ambushes then is too damn busy to testify.

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(09-20-2018 05:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here is my question. Here's been all this focus on Ford. But what about Kavanaugh?

How common is it for a man to do what Kavanaugh is alleged to have done one time and not repeat it? My sense is that it is extremely rare, but I don't have any factual knowledge. Can anyone shed any light on that?

The other celebrated cases where abuse of women has been alleged or proved--Trump, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Ted (Blonde-in-the-Pond) Kennedy, Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas--all seem to have involved multiple repeated offenses of similar character. OK, Ted only killed one woman, but his reputation as a repeat womanizer was well known.

What I see right now is a choice between two unlikely scenarios--one a conspiracy theory that democrats have made this all up out of nothing, and the other that Kavanaugh was a rapist for two minutes out of his whole life but never before or since. Quite frankly, I find both difficult to believe, but I don't have any alternative scenarios or explanations.

One news outlet is saying more accusers may emerge over the weekend. My guess is democrat operatives and media types are pouring over Ford's yearbook looking for people to compose a story similar to her composition so they can show a pattern.
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(09-20-2018 05:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here is my question. There's been all this focus on Ford. But what about Kavanaugh?

How common is it for a man to do what Kavanaugh is alleged to have done one time and not repeat it? My sense is that it is extremely rare, but I don't have any factual knowledge. Can anyone shed any light on that?

The other celebrated cases where abuse of women has been alleged or proved--Trump, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Ted (Blonde-in-the-Pond) Kennedy, Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas--all seem to have involved multiple repeated offenses of similar character. OK, Ted only killed one woman, but his reputation as a repeat womanizer was well known.

What I see right now is a choice between two unlikely scenarios--one a conspiracy theory that democrats have made this all up out of nothing, and the other that Kavanaugh was a rapist for two minutes out of his whole life but never before or since. Quite frankly, I find both difficult to believe, but I don't have any alternative scenarios or explanations.

Its not uncommon for people in therapy to have false memories.

And unpleasant things can be morphed into something else over time.

As lacking in detail as this story is and that Kavanaugh did not go to school with her, how certain can we be that Kavanaugh was the one who did it, assuming its true?

And we have lots of examples of leftists making up stories.

So there are many explanations for this.
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And absolutely everything about this story points to the Democrats in Congress not believing this story and using it to get their way, to the detriment of Kavanaugh and also to a possible victim, who is acting like anything but a victim with her lawyer and requests for delays.
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We already have the example of the twitter/Facebook post that the classmate of Ford's has already admitted was a lie.
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(09-20-2018 06:00 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 05:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here is my question. Here's been all this focus on Ford. But what about Kavanaugh?

How common is it for a man to do what Kavanaugh is alleged to have done one time and not repeat it? My sense is that it is extremely rare, but I don't have any factual knowledge. Can anyone shed any light on that?

The other celebrated cases where abuse of women has been alleged or proved--Trump, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Ted (Blonde-in-the-Pond) Kennedy, Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas--all seem to have involved multiple repeated offenses of similar character. OK, Ted only killed one woman, but his reputation as a repeat womanizer was well known.

What I see right now is a choice between two unlikely scenarios--one a conspiracy theory that democrats have made this all up out of nothing, and the other that Kavanaugh was a rapist for two minutes out of his whole life but never before or since. Quite frankly, I find both difficult to believe, but I don't have any alternative scenarios or explanations.

One news outlet is saying more accusers may emerge over the weekend. My guess is democrat operatives and media types are pouring over Ford's yearbook looking for people to compose a story similar to her composition so they can show a pattern.

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(09-20-2018 06:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 06:00 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  
(09-20-2018 05:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Here is my question. Here's been all this focus on Ford. But what about Kavanaugh?

How common is it for a man to do what Kavanaugh is alleged to have done one time and not repeat it? My sense is that it is extremely rare, but I don't have any factual knowledge. Can anyone shed any light on that?

The other celebrated cases where abuse of women has been alleged or proved--Trump, Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Ted (Blonde-in-the-Pond) Kennedy, Bill Cosby, Clarence Thomas--all seem to have involved multiple repeated offenses of similar character. OK, Ted only killed one woman, but his reputation as a repeat womanizer was well known.

What I see right now is a choice between two unlikely scenarios--one a conspiracy theory that democrats have made this all up out of nothing, and the other that Kavanaugh was a rapist for two minutes out of his whole life but never before or since. Quite frankly, I find both difficult to believe, but I don't have any alternative scenarios or explanations.

One news outlet is saying more accusers may emerge over the weekend. My guess is democrat operatives and media types are pouring over Ford's yearbook looking for people to compose a story similar to her composition so they can show a pattern.

Drag a $100 bill through a liberal bastion and you never know what you'll find-to paraphrase James Carville.

Soros and his money is behind all of this. A hundred dollar bill is pocket change. This woman and the Facebook liar may be scared chitless now that the dots are being connected. If Soros paid them.....
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