(09-17-2018 04:05 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 08:54 PM)tigerscane Wrote:  No I never said he wouldn't leave, Just that it wouldn't be for an ACC school or their location is all...Mike Norvell Loves Memphis and the area and his Wife being from there and their families are close by...Now he would have listened to Arkansas where he owns a vacation home in Fort Smith, and Would listen to LSU..Mike Norvell is a Urban guy who enjoys the soulful city of Memphis...He might leave but it would have to be the Right job and Location Matters with him if he did with his roots...But Seth Littrell, Lane Kiffen, Neal Brown, Mike Leach,Darrell Dickey are all very good posibilities for open ACC jobs if they were to open up...

I think any of those schools in the OP would be fools to hire Mike Norvell. He's continued the legacy that another coach built for 2 years. Give him 4 years before you sign him to a $3-4 million contract. He's making $1.86 Million now so he'd probably leave for just about any P5 job paying over twice as much.

You better hope that Memphis invests some of that new TV money you're going to get into coaches salaries. Usually schools don't. Commitment to winning in football comes before a big cash windfall and begets competitive salaries already. Maybe $2mil a year is as far as Memphis will go. We'll have to see.

https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/s...315615001/

Tigercane and a lot of other AAC fans are dreaming if they think their new tv deal is going to be north of $5 or 6 million. Its just not going to happen. Im out in Las Vegas for a few days and I just happened to sit next to a Uconn fan from Newark Airport all the way to Vegas. Lets just say, there's a lot of wishful thinking going on amongst their fans.

ESPN's last offer to the BE was $11.8 million per football school. And that was with the catholic basketball schools and other schools who were more nationally relevant with much better markets than whats in the AAC currently. No way the current AAC gets anywhere near that number. Those fans need to lower their expectations, so that they arent devastated when the actual deal is made public. If it's made public.

(09-16-2018 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 08:04 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I don't think Petrino will be fired UNLESS Purdue fires Jeff Brohm (in which case he's GONE).

Larry Fedora should've been replaced already.

Ga Tech has a big decision to make.

And Taggart probably has to miss a bowl (i.e. do worse than last year) to be fired that soon.

Should have gone after Charlie Strong instead of Taggart.

Wouldn't have made a difference.

How did Florida State’s offensive line get this bad?


With this thin of an O-line injured, Saban would struggle

Thats cute...You just like everyone else is guessing on the AAC NUmber...When OUr President and AD who are on the Committee over seeing our New TV Deal have said at least 8-10 MM per team and they just got feedback that it could be north of that number and that a annoucement could either come this fall or winter or by Summer Next year...ESPN already got a Green Light to aggerssively Bid for our rights, Because they want to try and hold of FAANG a little bit longer...But Tom Bowen our AD said in a interview when asked about the TV Deal he expects north of 8, 9 , 10....And Memphis is Investing Big Time into Football and Basketball....They are also work with Penny and Nike on a New NIke Dela using the 1 cent Penny Brand with All of U Of M Athletics and said he will be alot of money for that deal as well...All i said was Mike Norvell isn't leaving Memphis for the ACC schools or their location, because he would wait until the right job came and in the mean time contunie building Up Memphis....Now if USC, LSU, Arizona State were to ever open up then that would be very different.... And Everyone in Memphis knows that....

Georgia Tech

(09-17-2018 10:14 AM)bronconick Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:27 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 08:04 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I don't think Petrino will be fired UNLESS Purdue fires Jeff Brohm (in which case he's GONE).

Larry Fedora should've been replaced already.

Ga Tech has a big decision to make.

And Taggart probably has to miss a bowl (i.e. do worse than last year) to be fired that soon.

Should have gone after Charlie Strong instead of Taggart.

Wouldn't have made a difference.

How did Florida State’s offensive line get this bad?


With this thin of an O-line injured, Saban would struggle

Great article. Thanks for sharing.

It's been discussed on here for the past several years that towards the end of his time in Tally that Rick Trickett simply wasn't developing O-linemen. Don't know what happened because he was at one time considered one of the best OL coaches in the game, but the results are all the proof one needs. Honestly it goes back as far as Winston's last year with the Noles.....he got hit far more than he should have. The first year under Francois felt like he should have sued the OL for lack of support, and last year I honestly feared that someone was going to break Blackmon in half....and seriously thought that Tre Lamar did just that in our game.

I like the Taggart hire and I feel that he's going to get FSU back. Hopefully he hits the JUCO and graduate transfer markets hard while stocking up on high school talent to develop.

(09-17-2018 11:04 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Thats cute...You just like everyone else is guessing on the AAC NUmber...When OUr President and AD who are on the Committee over seeing our New TV Deal have said at least 8-10 MM per team and they just got feedback that it could be north of that number and that a annoucement could either come this fall or winter or by Summer Next year...ESPN already got a Green Light to aggerssively Bid for our rights, Because they want to try and hold of FAANG a little bit longer...But Tom Bowen our AD said in a interview when asked about the TV Deal he expects north of 8, 9 , 10....And Memphis is Investing Big Time into Football and Basketball....They are also work with Penny and Nike on a New NIke Dela using the 1 cent Penny Brand with All of U Of M Athletics and said he will be alot of money for that deal as well...All i said was Mike Norvell isn't leaving Memphis for the ACC schools or their location, because he would wait until the right job came and in the mean time contunie building Up Memphis....Now if USC, LSU, Arizona State were to ever open up then that would be very different.... And Everyone in Memphis knows that....

NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

You will see.

(09-19-2018 12:00 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 11:04 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Thats cute...You just like everyone else is guessing on the AAC NUmber...When OUr President and AD who are on the Committee over seeing our New TV Deal have said at least 8-10 MM per team and they just got feedback that it could be north of that number and that a annoucement could either come this fall or winter or by Summer Next year...ESPN already got a Green Light to aggerssively Bid for our rights, Because they want to try and hold of FAANG a little bit longer...But Tom Bowen our AD said in a interview when asked about the TV Deal he expects north of 8, 9 , 10....And Memphis is Investing Big Time into Football and Basketball....They are also work with Penny and Nike on a New NIke Dela using the 1 cent Penny Brand with All of U Of M Athletics and said he will be alot of money for that deal as well...All i said was Mike Norvell isn't leaving Memphis for the ACC schools or their location, because he would wait until the right job came and in the mean time contunie building Up Memphis....Now if USC, LSU, Arizona State were to ever open up then that would be very different.... And Everyone in Memphis knows that....

NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

You will see.

One thing I think could possibly help the AAC is how large their schools are. They have larger alumni bases then the ACC. That doesn't automatically = more money, but one could argue that it definitely could equate to a higher value than many think. That's a lot of possible eyeballs on tv sets in some large markets. I guarantee Houston, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, etc get a lot more viewers than Wake, BC, Duke etc. The disconnect in value between the two leagues is largely due to reputation and basketball. ACC basketball is an incredibly valuable product. I don't have reason to believe that the AAC is simply unable to demand 10 mil per school though. They have a better product and better value than a lot of folks want to admit.

(09-19-2018 10:18 AM)orange_in_VA Wrote:  

(09-19-2018 12:00 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 11:04 AM)tigerscane Wrote:  Thats cute...You just like everyone else is guessing on the AAC NUmber...When OUr President and AD who are on the Committee over seeing our New TV Deal have said at least 8-10 MM per team and they just got feedback that it could be north of that number and that a annoucement could either come this fall or winter or by Summer Next year...ESPN already got a Green Light to aggerssively Bid for our rights, Because they want to try and hold of FAANG a little bit longer...But Tom Bowen our AD said in a interview when asked about the TV Deal he expects north of 8, 9 , 10....And Memphis is Investing Big Time into Football and Basketball....They are also work with Penny and Nike on a New NIke Dela using the 1 cent Penny Brand with All of U Of M Athletics and said he will be alot of money for that deal as well...All i said was Mike Norvell isn't leaving Memphis for the ACC schools or their location, because he would wait until the right job came and in the mean time contunie building Up Memphis....Now if USC, LSU, Arizona State were to ever open up then that would be very different.... And Everyone in Memphis knows that....

NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

You will see.

One thing I think could possibly help the AAC is how large their schools are. They have larger alumni bases then the ACC. That doesn't automatically = more money, but one could argue that it definitely could equate to a higher value than many think. That's a lot of possible eyeballs on tv sets in some large markets. I guarantee Houston, USF, UCF, Navy, Memphis, etc get a lot more viewers than Wake, BC, Duke etc. The disconnect in value between the two leagues is largely due to reputation and basketball. ACC basketball is an incredibly valuable product. I don't have reason to believe that the AAC is simply unable to demand 10 mil per school though. They have a better product and better value than a lot of folks want to admit.

Im not arguing the AAC's value and product. I think that league is performing as well as the BE did, maybe even better on the field. The BE also had a value that was a lot better and more valuable than what it was getting paid, when SU, Pitt, WV and Louisville were there along with the catholic schools. They had large markets and better known schools. None of this transpired into getting paid its true value. Nobody is going to raise that leagues pay from $2 million per school to $8, 10 or $13 million per school. That's a ridiculous notion. There will be a lot of disappointed folks in AAC land when the deal comes out topping out at around $5 or $6 million per school. Thats if it gets publicized.

Nobody from the ACC is going to be "upset" when your second rate conference gets a payday that we would have rejected five years ago. We simply don't care. It still shows you are second rate.

If you want to continue to pimp the AACk then do it on the AACk board or on the CUSA, MAC, and Sun Belt boards since they are your peers.

The only link your school has to the ACC at this point is the fact that it's a feeder school for ACC head coaches. There's no ACC school who thinks enough of your program to even bring them in as a buy game. Memphis State has never even been on the ACC's radar during expansion discussions. You are a non-entity in these parts. So why exactly are you here?

Guys,

Sorry about the delayed moderation. I just got back in town yesterday and had to get caught up on some work. This thread was fine last night about 11:00 pm. Cant believe it went off the rails so quickly.

Tigercane. Dont post here anymore. Your love for Memphis is fine but you need to share that love somewhere else, like the Memphis board or the AAC board. Go there. As for calling out the mods publicly. Thats a big NoNo!

(09-16-2018 11:05 AM)Hallcity Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:40 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Petrino is going nowhere. Compared to the train wreck that is UNC football with Fedora and the snow job Taggart put on the FSU folks to get that job, Petrino is COTY material...lol

Plainly overall The ACC sucks this year. It’s a conference race to see who sucks the least.
CJ

What’s your logic for that? If Louisville sucks, the whole conference must suck? We have objective proof that the B1G sucks but not the ACC. There are some struggling teams in the ACC but as a whole the ACC is doing reasonably well.

You all can't see the forest because the trees are in your way.

It doesn't matter who any of the rest of us hire. College football has become Alabama, Ohio State, Clemson and a small group vying for SEC #2... and nobody else is even close.

I keep trying to tell you guys that this Haves/Have Nots thing is killing college football. But as long as the Haves are content to just get their paycheck, enjoy being Clemson's Washington Generals.

(09-15-2018 11:59 PM)Mister Emu Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 08:04 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I don't think Petrino will be fired UNLESS Purdue fires Jeff Brohm (in which case he's GONE).

I'm not sure I understand why you think Purdue firing Jeff Brohm would have any effect on Louisville's decisions with Petrino, other than to possibly remove him from the list of possible replacements.

Do you think we would be unable to get him to leave Purdue on his own?

If I were A.D. I'd already be calling Troy to talk to Neal Brown.

I don't think Petrino is in trouble right now, and am hopeful that the team starts to look better as the season continues.

But ... if we were to be in the market for a new coach .. .

The Neal Brown at Troy thing is interesting. Neal Brown played at UK. He's coached there too. I think Kentucky fans view him the way Jeff Brohm is viewed by some at U of L.

I wouldn't mind seeing who ELSE is a possibility.

The Memphis coach could be poachable.
The North Texas dude could be too.

But what about "pulling a Mississippi State" and snagging an up and coming coach who's work as OC or DC was outstanding on a higher stage? Dude has no connections to Mississippi, or the south for that matter, and he has that team balling so far this year.

Add Narduzzi to the list. He may get another year because he was just extended, but he's lost the fan base and it is about to get ugly in Pittsburgh.

(09-22-2018 02:37 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Add Narduzzi to the list. He may get another year because he was just extended, but he's lost the fan base and it is about to get ugly in Pittsburgh.

Going O-fer against UNC in his career -- especially when Pitt is the ONLY team losing to them -- that's not a good look.

Petrino is def on the hot seat with the fan base. It doesn't help that he has his son as QB coach, and two son-in-laws on the coaching staff (only one of which has any real pedigree in coaching).

However .... Jurich's buyout clause for Petrino is ridiculous. 3 years of salary. So ... something like $12 million. He has 5 years left on his contract, so .... that $12 million number is what it would be each of the next 3 years, before it drops to $8 and then $4. Brutal.

BP better figure out how to coach these kids. I don't see him quitting. And I don't see us eating that buyout.

(09-22-2018 07:30 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  Petrino is def on the hot seat with the fan base. It doesn't help that he has his son as QB coach, and two son-in-laws on the coaching staff (only one of which has any real pedigree in coaching).

However .... Jurich's buyout clause for Petrino is ridiculous. 3 years of salary. So ... something like $12 million. He has 5 years left on his contract, so .... that $12 million number is what it would be each of the next 3 years, before it drops to $8 and then $4. Brutal.

BP better figure out how to coach these kids. I don't see him quitting. And I don't see us eating that buyout.

Nepotism ... what could possibly go wrong?

(09-20-2018 12:49 PM)Pervis_Griffith Wrote:  The Neal Brown at Troy thing is interesting. Neal Brown played at UK. He's coached there too. I think Kentucky fans view him the way Jeff Brohm is viewed by some at U of L.

I wouldn't mind seeing who ELSE is a possibility.

Our last coach that played and coached as an assistant at UK did pretty well for us.

I think Brown is damned good coach; somebody is going to grab him, I just want us to get to the front of the line. Petrino seems to have lost all of the fire/drive that characterized his first stint here. Add to that he can't seem to attract or keep competent assistants, Summers is the only one on staff I trust to perform, and I do not see it going well as we move forward with him.

I know the buyout is absurd, but there is a cost associated with keeping him and that will surpass the buyout, especially if we have to endure 3 years of this sort of showing before changing.

Quote:The Memphis coach could be poachable.
The North Texas dude could be too.

But what about "pulling a Mississippi State" and snagging an up and coming coach who's work as OC or DC was outstanding on a higher stage? Dude has no connections to Mississippi, or the south for that matter, and he has that team balling so far this year.

I'm more than open to arguments that there are coaches better suited to getting us competing for the division. I am only convinced at this moment that Petrino is not so suited.

But what about "pulling a Mississippi State" and snagging an up and coming coach who's work as OC or DC was outstanding on a higher stage? Dude has no connections to Mississippi, or the south for that matter, and he has that team balling so far this year.
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Jury is still out on him. Not is players. Give it 4 years.

(09-22-2018 04:27 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(09-22-2018 02:37 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Add Narduzzi to the list. He may get another year because he was just extended, but he's lost the fan base and it is about to get ugly in Pittsburgh.

Going O-fer against UNC in his career -- especially when Pitt is the ONLY team losing to them -- that's not a good look.

Does not say much for Fedora either, when Pitt is the only ACC team that he can beat consistently.

Scratch Paul Johnson off the list. I got this email as being part of the A-T Fund at GT:

Quote:Dear Georgia Tech Family,

One of the things that makes Georgia Tech so special to me is the passion of our students, alumni and fans. I’m appreciative of the passion that thousands of you display through your support of our athletics program and our student-athletes, who work so hard to be Everyday Champions. I also truly appreciate the passion expressed in the emails and tweets that I receive from the Georgia Tech family – even as of late, when some of them haven’t been very much fun to read.

Like many of you, I’m frustrated and disappointed in how this year’s football season has started. I was in that locker room after Saturday’s game and can tell you this with 100-percent certainty – NO ONE is more frustrated with our 1-3 start than the men who coach our team and the young men on the team.

First, let me say that I remain in total support of our student-athletes and coaching staff and believe that they are fully committed and capable of success this season.

Secondly, let me acknowledge that no one associated with our program – coaches, players, athletics staff, students, alumni or fans – is satisfied with being 1-3 or with the prospect of not going to postseason.

However, with all due respect, I truly feel that many of the emails and social media posts that I’ve seen as of late are counterproductive to meeting the high expectations that we all have for our program. To meet those expectations, there are no shortcuts and it is not going to be cheap.

To consistently meet those expectations, we must acknowledge that we have slowly fallen behind our competition in terms of the resources needed to assist our student-athletes and coaches when they line up week-in and week-out against programs that have those resources. We are located in the toughest neighborhood in the country for college football – three of last year's four College Football Playoff participants are within a three-hour drive of our campus and eight of the last nine national champions are within a 250-mile radius.

With your help, we have begun to address those needs. Recent investments (new locker room, upgraded nutrition center and training table, partnership with adidas, addition of three quality-control analysts, doubling our recruiting staff and creation of a recruiting-focused lobby to our football headquarters) show that Georgia Tech is serious about our football program.

Those investments have paid some immediate dividends and will continue to do so as time goes on, but there is still more to do. The $125 million that we’re in the process of raising as part of Athletics Initiative 2020 is the price of admission to give our student-athletes and coaches the same resources that others in our neighborhood enjoy.

Therefore, I urge our incredible and passionate fans to support this program in ways that can help us attain the resources needed to assist our football student-athletes and coaches:

buy tickets, starting with Saturday’s Heroes Day game against Bowling Green;
donate to the Athletics Initiative 2020;
use your platforms to support Georgia Tech, our student-athletes and our initiatives, and urge others to do the same.
Coach Johnson is a fighter and he has proven time and again that he can mold a group of young men that can fight above their weight class. I am confident that he and his team have a lot of fight left in them, to go along with a lot of ability and a lot of football still left to play.

However, as a Georgia Tech football letterwinner, alum and athletics director, I’m also frustrated by always having to fight above our weight class. We can all see how hard it is to do on a year-in and year-out basis. I need all of our Georgia Tech Family to rally together behind this team and our athletics program, as well as decide if we’re all willing to do what’s necessary to put us in the same weight class as those we compete against on a regular basis.

Hope to see you on Saturday at Bobby Dodd!

Together We Swarm,



Todd Stansbury