(09-16-2018 01:58 PM)Djud Wrote:  This may have been Carey and his staff’s best coached game. In the first quarter the team was self destructing. His QB was in a full meltdown. Missing open receivers short and long; keeping the ball way too long. Carey could have easily replaced him, most coaches would have. Instead, he continues to stick with his QB, who he has committed completely to developing. The team goes to the solid running game, which opens up huge opportunities in the passing game. He does not ask his struggling QB to do too much. He finally hits a wide open receiver who made runs a great pattern making a DB look silly. The rest of the game we does what is necesaary to win the game, without further eroding the confidence of his QB. If Childers starts to make improvement he can point to how he was handled throughout his career, but in particular this game as being the difference. You have to respect a coach who sticks with his players even when they are struggling, and Childers certainly has been.

See what happened when CMU replaced their QB? Childers does not have the talent or leadership skills. Will he ever? Who knows, but he certainly doesn't now. He should be replaced.

Yea I'm not sure this game is a good example of why not to change your QB.

That CMU QB single-handedly got them back into the game in the 2nd half. If they start him the whole game we probably lose.

(09-16-2018 04:58 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  That CMU QB single-handedly got them back into the game in the 2nd half. If they start him the whole game we probably lose.

If he is the starter and NIU knows he is the starter, I think he gets contained. He benefited from the element of the unknown.

(09-16-2018 09:53 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  You had a long-tenured college football coach in Al Grohl even saying Childers is extremely limited and the best chance is to keep it out of his hands.

I enjoyed listening to coach Grohl on Saturday. He was knowlegable and brutally honest which I found refreshing.

(09-16-2018 11:06 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:41 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:31 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:14 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-15-2018 07:41 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  Amazing you can win a game in this day an age throwing for 109 yards.

Everyone has been screaming to run the ball, and we did. We pounded the rock 48 times for 220 yards. I’m not going to penalize the run game with the -40 yard high snap on the punt. Childers threw 3 TD passes to no INTs.

No INTs? Childers airmailed his receiver and was INT by the defender. That makes 4 INTs in three games, plus however many fumbles he has had.

You’re right. Forgot about that one. Didn’t show up in the box score since I think it got called back for a defensive penalty. Not sure if the penalty played into the INT.

Either way, I would be very happy with 3 TDs and 1 INT each game with running for 200+. And I think the passing game has a lot more opportunity to grow at this point than stagnate.

True, I forgot he got lucky with a defensive penalty away from the ball that negated it.

Rewatching the game the defensive holding penalty was actually on the CMU player who had the interception. Pass certainly didn’t look great, but the holding well may have thrown off the timing of the throw. Also Tears May have given up on the play a bit once he was held.

(09-16-2018 05:29 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:58 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  That CMU QB single-handedly got them back into the game in the 2nd half. If they start him the whole game we probably lose.

If he is the starter and NIU knows he is the starter, I think he gets contained. He benefited from the element of the unknown.

I disagree, that young man is talented and will win a ton of games for CMU. The difference between he and Childers is night and day.

(09-16-2018 06:33 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 11:06 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:41 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:31 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:14 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  Everyone has been screaming to run the ball, and we did. We pounded the rock 48 times for 220 yards. I’m not going to penalize the run game with the -40 yard high snap on the punt. Childers threw 3 TD passes to no INTs.

No INTs? Childers airmailed his receiver and was INT by the defender. That makes 4 INTs in three games, plus however many fumbles he has had.

You’re right. Forgot about that one. Didn’t show up in the box score since I think it got called back for a defensive penalty. Not sure if the penalty played into the INT.

Either way, I would be very happy with 3 TDs and 1 INT each game with running for 200+. And I think the passing game has a lot more opportunity to grow at this point than stagnate.

True, I forgot he got lucky with a defensive penalty away from the ball that negated it.

Rewatching the game the defensive holding penalty was actually on the CMU player who had the interception. Pass certainly wasn’t great, but the holding well may have thrown off the timing of the throw.

How can you rewatch any sporting event? You know the outcome. Too many great shows to watch. I couldn't give up 2 hours of my life knowing I still have several episodes of ozark to watch ?

(09-16-2018 06:36 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 05:29 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 04:58 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  That CMU QB single-handedly got them back into the game in the 2nd half. If they start him the whole game we probably lose.

If he is the starter and NIU knows he is the starter, I think he gets contained. He benefited from the element of the unknown.

I disagree, that young man is talented and will win a ton of games for CMU. The difference between he and Childers is night and day.

Absolutely. He found his receiver, got rid of the ball quickly, and connected with the receiver - all of which Childers does not do. It gets tiring seeing Childers hold on to the ball, search for receivers in vain, and eventually throw the ball away (if he doesn't get sacked).

I would hate to be a wideout in this offense. 10 completions spread around to like 8 guys. How will they ever get big numbers and get noticed. .

(09-16-2018 07:00 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 06:33 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 11:06 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:41 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:31 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  No INTs? Childers airmailed his receiver and was INT by the defender. That makes 4 INTs in three games, plus however many fumbles he has had.

You’re right. Forgot about that one. Didn’t show up in the box score since I think it got called back for a defensive penalty. Not sure if the penalty played into the INT.

Either way, I would be very happy with 3 TDs and 1 INT each game with running for 200+. And I think the passing game has a lot more opportunity to grow at this point than stagnate.

True, I forgot he got lucky with a defensive penalty away from the ball that negated it.

Rewatching the game the defensive holding penalty was actually on the CMU player who had the interception. Pass certainly wasn’t great, but the holding well may have thrown off the timing of the throw.

How can you rewatch any sporting event? You know the outcome. Too many great shows to watch. I couldn't give up 2 hours of my life knowing I still have several episodes of ozark to watch ?

I usually don’t rewatch but signed up for ESPN+ free trial and was curious if I could rewatch which you can. I was at the game and usually don’t remember all the details or get to see replays. So sometimes it is interesting to see it from a different perspective. And I really don’t get into TV shows.

(09-16-2018 07:00 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 06:33 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 11:06 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:41 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 09:31 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  No INTs? Childers airmailed his receiver and was INT by the defender. That makes 4 INTs in three games, plus however many fumbles he has had.

You’re right. Forgot about that one. Didn’t show up in the box score since I think it got called back for a defensive penalty. Not sure if the penalty played into the INT.

Either way, I would be very happy with 3 TDs and 1 INT each game with running for 200+. And I think the passing game has a lot more opportunity to grow at this point than stagnate.

True, I forgot he got lucky with a defensive penalty away from the ball that negated it.

Rewatching the game the defensive holding penalty was actually on the CMU player who had the interception. Pass certainly wasn’t great, but the holding well may have thrown off the timing of the throw.

How can you rewatch any sporting event? You know the outcome. Too many great shows to watch. I couldn't give up 2 hours of my life knowing I still have several episodes of ozark to watch ?

It is fun to rewatch a game you went to to see what you missed. Particularly if it’s a knowledgeable color guy like Al Groh.

(09-16-2018 10:05 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 07:00 PM)NIUfrank Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 06:33 PM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 11:06 AM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 10:41 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  You’re right. Forgot about that one. Didn’t show up in the box score since I think it got called back for a defensive penalty. Not sure if the penalty played into the INT.

Either way, I would be very happy with 3 TDs and 1 INT each game with running for 200+. And I think the passing game has a lot more opportunity to grow at this point than stagnate.

True, I forgot he got lucky with a defensive penalty away from the ball that negated it.

Rewatching the game the defensive holding penalty was actually on the CMU player who had the interception. Pass certainly wasn’t great, but the holding well may have thrown off the timing of the throw.

How can you rewatch any sporting event? You know the outcome. Too many great shows to watch. I couldn't give up 2 hours of my life knowing I still have several episodes of ozark to watch ?

It is fun to rewatch a game you went to to see what you missed. Particularly if it’s a knowledgeable color guy like Al Groh.

I also re-watch to see what the announcers said and to see some plays again - since for the home games I'm generally at the game.

(09-16-2018 02:10 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:58 PM)Djud Wrote:  This may have been Carey and his staff’s best coached game. In the first quarter the team was self destructing. His QB was in a full meltdown. Missing open receivers short and long; keeping the ball way too long. Carey could have easily replaced him, most coaches would have. Instead, he continues to stick with his QB, who he has committed completely to developing. The team goes to the solid running game, which opens up huge opportunities in the passing game. He does not ask his struggling QB to do too much. He finally hits a wide open receiver who made runs a great pattern making a DB look silly. The rest of the game we does what is necesaary to win the game, without further eroding the confidence of his QB. If Childers starts to make improvement he can point to how he was handled throughout his career, but in particular this game as being the difference. You have to respect a coach who sticks with his players even when they are struggling, and Childers certainly has been.

See what happened when CMU replaced their QB? Childers does not have the talent or leadership skills. Will he ever? Who knows, but he certainly doesn't now. He should be replaced.

I truly doubt we have a better QB on the roster.

(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 02:10 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:58 PM)Djud Wrote:  This may have been Carey and his staff’s best coached game. In the first quarter the team was self destructing. His QB was in a full meltdown. Missing open receivers short and long; keeping the ball way too long. Carey could have easily replaced him, most coaches would have. Instead, he continues to stick with his QB, who he has committed completely to developing. The team goes to the solid running game, which opens up huge opportunities in the passing game. He does not ask his struggling QB to do too much. He finally hits a wide open receiver who made runs a great pattern making a DB look silly. The rest of the game we does what is necesaary to win the game, without further eroding the confidence of his QB. If Childers starts to make improvement he can point to how he was handled throughout his career, but in particular this game as being the difference. You have to respect a coach who sticks with his players even when they are struggling, and Childers certainly has been.

See what happened when CMU replaced their QB? Childers does not have the talent or leadership skills. Will he ever? Who knows, but he certainly doesn't now. He should be replaced.

I truly doubt we have a better QB on the roster.

We don't know because we haven't seen them in game situations. Put them in and we (and Carey) will know for sure.

(09-17-2018 02:35 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)Teamduh Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 02:10 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-16-2018 01:58 PM)Djud Wrote:  This may have been Carey and his staff’s best coached game. In the first quarter the team was self destructing. His QB was in a full meltdown. Missing open receivers short and long; keeping the ball way too long. Carey could have easily replaced him, most coaches would have. Instead, he continues to stick with his QB, who he has committed completely to developing. The team goes to the solid running game, which opens up huge opportunities in the passing game. He does not ask his struggling QB to do too much. He finally hits a wide open receiver who made runs a great pattern making a DB look silly. The rest of the game we does what is necesaary to win the game, without further eroding the confidence of his QB. If Childers starts to make improvement he can point to how he was handled throughout his career, but in particular this game as being the difference. You have to respect a coach who sticks with his players even when they are struggling, and Childers certainly has been.

See what happened when CMU replaced their QB? Childers does not have the talent or leadership skills. Will he ever? Who knows, but he certainly doesn't now. He should be replaced.

I truly doubt we have a better QB on the roster.

We don't know because we haven't seen them in game situations. Put them in and we (and Carey) will know for sure.

For me, I've seen enough practice to be sure he has the best arm although the new freshman from Indy also has some zip. What I hope is that Childers gets better with decision making. He is a sophomore so there is time.

We got the win. I'll take it. After 4 CMU losses this is much better.

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