Sounds like their efforts to influence her are having the opposite effect. Typical of Democrats.

Quote:Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) says she is not swayed by crowdfunding aimed at encouraging her to oppose Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, comparing the effort to a “bribe.”

“I consider this quid pro quo fundraising to be the equivalent of an attempt to bribe me to vote against Judge Kavanaugh,” Collins told conservative news outlet Newsmax.

Two groups of Maine progressives have pledged to donate up to $1.3 million to Collins’s next opponent if the Maine senator votes to confirm Kavanaugh, Newsmax reported. Collins is not up for reelection until 2020.

Donors have been asked to pledge money against Collins, but their credit cards will only be charged if she votes "yes" on Kavanaugh.

“If I vote against him, the money is refunded to the donors," Collins said. "If I vote for him, the money is given to my opponent for the 2020 race."

"This effort will not influence my vote at all,” she added. “I think it demonstrates the new lows to which the judge’s opponents have stooped.”

Maine People's Alliance and Mainers for Accountable Leadership have teamed up to crowdsource the effort. They had received $987,922 from 35,317 pledges as of Tuesday morning with a goal of $1.3 million.

"The people of Maine are asking you to be a hero, Senator Collins," the crowdfunding page states. "Your swing vote could decide whether a rubber stamp for Trump’s anti-healthcare, anti-woman, anti-labor agenda gets confirmed to the Supreme Court–costing millions of Americans their healthcare, their right to choose, and their lives."

The statement warns Collins that the groups intend to "get you out of office" following a "yes" vote.

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I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

(09-12-2018 10:53 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

My exact thoughts when I read that article. How is this not trying to buy an election with a bribe?

This should certainly be looked at. It is good to see she has a little bit of integrity left.


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The alt-left has sent her staffers rape threats.

Add it to their rap sheet for the week.

(09-11-2018 11:09 PM)Kronke Wrote:  All today,

- Wingnut attacks GOP Congressional candidate with pink switchblade
- Democratic socialist & anastasia cortez fan threatens mass shooting at Trump DC hotel
- carole cook threatens President Trump assassination, sparking Secret Service probe
- Wyoming GOP office set on fire, police believe it was intentional
- Fox News contributor forced into hiding after rape and death threats

Democrats are stooping to new lows......even for Them.Pretty hard thing to do, but They are trying.

...and why aren't they in jail? Law enforcement has become entirely toooooo lenient in going after threats. It's time to swoop them up like the garbage that they are.

(09-12-2018 01:44 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  ...and why aren't they in jail? Law enforcement has become entirely toooooo lenient in going after threats. It's time to swoop them up like the garbage that they are.

100% agree. Make a well-publicized example, and the crazies will get the message.

(09-12-2018 10:53 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

If I understand this, it isn't a bribe, they are just threatening to send money to her 2020 opponent if she votes to confirm.

(09-12-2018 01:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 10:53 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

If I understand this, it isn't a bribe, they are just threatening to send money to her 2020 opponent if she votes to confirm.

Trying to influence a vote nonetheless...

If not a "bribe" (in this sense, a sort of negative bribe) then blackmail.

Neither one is pretty.

Are these the new rules we won't like?

(09-12-2018 02:05 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 01:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 10:53 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

If I understand this, it isn't a bribe, they are just threatening to send money to her 2020 opponent if she votes to confirm.

Trying to influence a vote nonetheless...

If not a "bribe" (in this sense, a sort of negative bribe) then blackmail.

Neither one is pretty.

doesn't fit the legal statute of blackmail either.

How's is this any different from, say... the Koch Brothers, from donating money to a politician's opponent if they don't like how the politician voted on an issue?

Except this time it's coming from thousands of small donations rather than two billionaires.

Threat maybe. Bribe, no.

If this were illegal wouldn't all campaign donations be illegal? I think the site you have to donate through only allows so much. I dont see the uproar.

Make an unpopular vote and don't be surprised when constituents (and outside donators which I feel weird about) raise funds against you. This isnt that different than a PAC or RNC or DNC throwing money against an opponent.

(09-12-2018 02:05 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 01:47 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 10:53 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  I wonder if this couldn't be categorized as illegal vote tampering, aka a bribe.

If it does meet the criteria I would hope the Justice Department would pursue not only those who set up the crowd-funding but also those who have contributed.

The intent is obviously to influence a congressional vote.

If I understand this, it isn't a bribe, they are just threatening to send money to her 2020 opponent if she votes to confirm.

Trying to influence a vote nonetheless...

If not a "bribe" (in this sense, a sort of negative bribe) then blackmail.

Neither one is pretty.

Lolol welcome to modern day politics? As if generating vote influence via financial contribution is a new thing. Literally EVERY political race works off this kind of financing. This time the donors are being blunt.

Well I think we need to know where these donors are located. If they don't live in Maine it could be seen as extortion. But hey what's extortion amongst libs right.

I love how JDT is the moral voice of reason. He's so ethical. He wouldn't ever do anything to make anyone here question his ethics or morals.

He never crawfishes or anything.

(09-12-2018 03:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Well I think we need to know where these donors are located. If they don't live in Maine it could be seen as extortion. But hey what's extortion amongst libs right.

I love how JDT is the moral voice of reason. He's so ethical. He wouldn't ever do anything to make anyone here question his ethics or morals.

He never crawfishes or anything.

I'd bet that over 75% of the money backing both FL gubernatorial candidates are from PACs not located in Florida. Is that extortion?

She is a goof

(09-12-2018 03:40 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-12-2018 03:29 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Well I think we need to know where these donors are located. If they don't live in Maine it could be seen as extortion. But hey what's extortion amongst libs right.

I love how JDT is the moral voice of reason. He's so ethical. He wouldn't ever do anything to make anyone here question his ethics or morals.

He never crawfishes or anything.

I'd bet that over 75% of the money backing both FL gubernatorial candidates are from PACs not located in Florida. Is that extortion?

But are the PACs crowdfunding and telling the candidate how to vote and if not the way they won't they're giving the money to someone else. The Senator is representing her state if a group from Cali is pulling this she's not speaking to you voice of her constitutes she's speaking for another state. That's where my point was. I understand PACs participate in state elections but I would think this would fall under something else. Hey I could be wrong. I'm no political analyst or lawyer. I haven't even played one on TV.

She gets no money regardless. Funds are refunded if she votes no to Kav. Funds go to opponent if she says yes. She nor her campaign ever see a cent.