NIU 9
Chips 7

Huskies 18
Chippewas 9

NIU: 19 (off td, def td, safety, fg)
CMU: 3

That's how you cover.

(09-11-2018 10:26 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  NIU: 19 (off td, def td, safety, fg)
CMU: 3

That's how you cover.

NIU 47
Chips 3

The offense looks great as our running game cant be stopped. Defense shuts them down. People then realize that we faced two of the top defenses in the country and walk back from the cliff.

(09-11-2018 10:40 AM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 10:26 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  NIU: 19 (off td, def td, safety, fg)
CMU: 3

That's how you cover.

NIU 47
Chips 3

The offense looks great as our running game cant be stopped. Defense shuts them down. People then realize that we faced two of the top defenses in the country and walk back from the cliff.

Or, CMU beats us, people have one foot hanging over the cliff, then realize that this is CMU who we never beat anyway, and then move that foot back onto the edge of the cliff.

(09-11-2018 10:40 AM)JKHuskie45 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 10:26 AM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  NIU: 19 (off td, def td, safety, fg)
CMU: 3

That's how you cover.

NIU 47
Chips 3

The offense looks great as our running game cant be stopped. Defense shuts them down. People then realize that we faced two of the top defenses in the country and walk back from the cliff.

Utah played Weber St., who barely gained 300 yards vs. Cal Poly (130 passing on 24 attempts) and Iowa played Iowa State, statistically the only other offense more inept than NIU in a couple categories.

Very good defenses make ok offenses look bad or pathetic offenses make good defenses look great? We shall see.

41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

(09-11-2018 01:57 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

Exactly.

(09-11-2018 01:57 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

And Va. Tech defense wrecked FSU in the opener and we’ll get blown out...

Graham: “you know, I’m really bad at being a starting D1 Quarterback ....”

Childers: “hold my beer”

(09-11-2018 01:57 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

That sounded not like an excuse but just a statement of fact.

Tears and Brinkman would have made a huge difference for Childers the last two games. Unfortunately, one was injured and one suspended.

(09-11-2018 03:30 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:57 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

Exactly.

These aren’t excuses. Harnish got smashed by Wisconsin. Beat a couple of 3 win P5s. Lynch beat some really bad P5 teams but couldn’t score against Utah state or FSU. Hare couldn’t score vs BC or OSU. All the P5 victories have been against .500 or lower teams. Now you have the worst QB in a decade running the offense. What are you expecting? You say excuses. I say reality. It’s been this way for awhile but because of the increase in quality opponents you’re just having to deal with it more than before.

Compound Childers with probably the most inexperienced WRs and TEs we may have ever returned. With Tears suspended, Brown and Wesley are the only returning WRs on the team to have caught a pass last year. Our two returning TEs (Crawford and Brinkman) who have experience are both injured.

When the defense only has to worry about two WRs when we go 5 wide in the spread, makes it even harder for the QB.

Some games against MAC defenses hopefully get these younger guys some in game experience where they can start to contribute to the offense.

Tears returning also should be huge for the passing game.

NIU: 24
CMU: 10

We have not done well against CMU recently, but I think this year that "curse" will come to an end; I am not impressed with CMU on both sides of the ball. I agree that our offense will work against MAC (and similar) level opponents. I think Childers will have a decent game, but I will not change my opinion that he is most definitely not the answer.

(09-12-2018 06:01 AM)HuskieJoe Wrote:  Compound Childers with probably the most inexperienced WRs and TEs we may have ever returned. With Tears suspended, Brown and Wesley are the only returning WRs on the team to have caught a pass last year. Our two returning TEs (Crawford and Brinkman) who have experience are both injured.

When the defense only has to worry about two WRs when we go 5 wide in the spread, makes it even harder for the QB.

Some games against MAC defenses hopefully get these younger guys some in game experience where they can start to contribute to the offense.

Tears returning also should be huge for the passing game.

But the biggest component you forgot, is throw in a coach that runs a predictable , conservative offense, and DOES NOT WANT his players to be aggressive in fear of the turnover, and you have a disaster. I called this one 10 miles ahead of time. A Carey offensive approach has always been paralyzing with fear and conservativeness, throw a lack of play makers on top of that, and you have a recipe for disaster.

(09-11-2018 10:31 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 03:30 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:57 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 12:40 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 11:49 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  41-10 NIU

I stand by my theory that this offense only works we’ll verse MAC level opponents. The offense gets rolling(Mac rolling) and it actually looks like a real offense.

Yep. My guess is Childers actually has a decent game because it is a MAC opp and our defense/run game dominate. Then some people come and say see he isn't bad. Then against FSU he is going to be worse than he was against Utah, which is hard to do. He won't be able to handle FSU as a team or atmosphere.

If anyone says Childers isn't bad because he might have a decent game against a winless CMU team then they forgot many of the games he has played where he has been terrible. He's not a good QB, at all.

It shouldn't matter if we play P5 defenses or not, our offense should NEVER only put up 13 total points in two games.

Did someone fail to tell 1-AA Samford that they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 26 points against Florida State. Did someone fail to tell 1-AA William & Mary they were playing a P5 defense? They scored 17 points against #12 Virginia Tech.

The excuses on here as to why we always look terrible against anyone except bad teams is becoming old.

Exactly.

These aren’t excuses. Harnish got smashed by Wisconsin. Beat a couple of 3 win P5s. Lynch beat some really bad P5 teams but couldn’t score against Utah state or FSU. Hare couldn’t score vs BC or OSU. All the P5 victories have been against .500 or lower teams. Now you have the worst QB in a decade running the offense. What are you expecting? You say excuses. I say reality. It’s been this way for awhile but because of the increase in quality opponents you’re just having to deal with it more than before.

I wasn't making an excuse, I was making a fact. The difference a few years ago against the bad teams we would look dominant and the offense would move the ball at will (passing or running). And now we can't do either (the running game did look good again UTAH and line is getting good push) and ONLY when we play the real bad teams, the offense looks somewhat like a respectable college offense.

At the end of the day it falls on the coaches who haven't been able to recruit a QB/get him to stay/develop one/ whatever you want to say. It falls on the coaches. I was fine with giving Carey the benefit of the doubt with the QB for a couple seasons, but now it is the same outcome.

Rabid hit the nail on the head on how it has been this way for a while, but the beating up the bottom dwellers in the MAC and getting W's puts blinders on for most fans IMO.

As a side note, why can't the offense try SOMETHING different like Hall in for a few run plays since Childers moves as about as well as Tommy Fiedler did. Something film hasn't shown yet. I'm sure Hall would be able to at least make it to the outside unlike Childers.