It's clear to me the AAC is underrated as a Football Conference.

Compare the teams from the AAC vs Big 12 and Pac 12 year by year and the American comes out on top or at parity every year.

just Looking at the top 4

AAC------vs--------- PAC-12---------------------vs BIG 12
UCF--------------------USC----------------------Oklahoma
Memphis-----------Washington----------------West Virginia
Houston----------Washington State----------Oklahoma State
USF------------------Stanford-----------------------TCU

Put these head to head and the American comes out on top at least half the time yet the AAC is considered a G5 Conference because the leaders of the P5 Conferences hording all the money have said so.

Yeah, so we the AAC need a butt load of money

The AAC has similar problems that the MWC had when TCU, Utah, and BYU were humming - no clear-cut football king and too much weight at the bottom.

FWIW, the MWC missed its chance to add Boise St. (who was a constant fixture in the rankings) plus Houston and Fresno St. - second teams in Texas and California and consistent bowl teams. That would have given the MWC a nice top-tier of TCU, Utah, Boise St., and BYU, and a solid middle tier of Air Force, Colorado St., Houston, Wyoming, and Fresno St., to offset the dregs - SDSU, New Mexico and UNLV, at the time (and they all had really good basketball).

(09-06-2018 11:55 AM)YNot Wrote:  The AAC has similar problems that the MWC had when TCU, Utah, and BYU were humming - no clear-cut football king and too much weight at the bottom.

FWIW, the MWC missed its chance to add Boise St. (who was a constant fixture in the rankings) plus Houston and Fresno St. - second teams in Texas and California and consistent bowl teams. That would have given the MWC a nice top-tier of TCU, Utah, Boise St., and BYU, and a solid middle tier of Air Force, Colorado St., Houston, Wyoming, and Fresno St., to offset the dregs - SDSU, New Mexico and UNLV, at the time (and they all had really good basketball).

Utah gunned that down, they were and are terrified of Boise..


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(09-06-2018 11:55 AM)YNot Wrote:  The AAC has similar problems that the MWC had when TCU, Utah, and BYU were humming - no clear-cut football king and too much weight at the bottom.

FWIW, the MWC missed its chance to add Boise St. (who was a constant fixture in the rankings) plus Houston and Fresno St. - second teams in Texas and California and consistent bowl teams. That would have given the MWC a nice top-tier of TCU, Utah, Boise St., and BYU, and a solid middle tier of Air Force, Colorado St., Houston, Wyoming, and Fresno St., to offset the dregs - SDSU, New Mexico and UNLV, at the time (and they all had really good basketball).

The B10 has OSU, Wiscy, MSU, Mich and PSU as well as Rutgers, Purdue and Indiana. In other words no clear cut king and many bad teams. But they still get paid.

SEC has Alabama I guess, but Florida, Georgia, Auburn and LSU have all competed for our won titles recently. They have Vandy and Kentucky and now Tenn.

Outside of Kansas the p5 doesn't regularly lose to FCS. That's a big problem perception wise.

I was more wrong about this than I thought.

Losses to FCS:

2017:
AAC: 1
Big12 (Baylor): 1

2016:
AAC: 0
ACC: 1
Big12: 1
Pac12: 1
Big10: 2

2015:
AAC: 2
Big12: 1
Pac12: 1
SEC: 1

2014:
AAC: 0
Big12: 1

2013:
AAC: 3
Big12: 2
Pac12: 1
SEC: 1

The B10 has OSU, Wiscy, MSU, Mich and PSU as well as Rutgers, Purdue and Indiana. In other words no clear cut king and many bad teams. But they still get paid.
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I probably shouldn't comment. Oh well f++k it.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read since volunteering 20 years ago in a local special needs classroom. I don't know if you have the strongest pair of prescription homer glasses available or really do believe this? If the latter, you're setting yourself up for a long period of frustration and rants about how your team/conf is getting screwed/disrespected. Don't be that guy.

No clear cut king? Have you been under a rock this century? It's pretty clear, the Buckeyes are currently the #2 program in the nation trailing only BAMA. Clemson is a close third, but no one else is really in the conversation. tOSU has won the their division of the B10 ever season since urban showed up in 2012. They were B10 Champs 5 straight years (05-09) before Meyer arrived. They were national champs in 2002 and 2014. Also undefeated in 2012 but not allowed to play a bowl game and lost the national title game in 2005 and 2006. They've played in 13 or 14 big 6 bowl games since 2000.

The others you mentioned - Michigan and Penn St are blue blood CFB programs and may draw more fans in one game than some of our teams in an entire season. Nebraska's another blue blood (who as a middling B10 program took the coach from our maybe best team ever). Wisconsin has been a borderline top 10 program the last 10+ years and been in the mix for the CFP multiple times. MSU HAS been in the playoff. Even Iowa has been better than any of our programs this century.

Please don't compare us to the B10 in football, you're making AAC fans look delusional.

(09-06-2018 10:21 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Yeah, so we the AAC need a butt load of money

Problem is we only will get a shoe full.

(09-06-2018 10:21 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Yeah, so we the AAC need a butt load of money

Isn't it boat load? I don't think I can fit that much money in a butt...

(09-07-2018 06:53 AM)muckdawg24 Wrote:  

(09-06-2018 10:21 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Yeah, so we the AAC need a butt load of money

Isn't it boat load? I don't think I can fit that much money in a butt...

Either way, we need a big pay day

(09-06-2018 04:06 PM)vick mike Wrote:  

(09-06-2018 11:55 AM)YNot Wrote:  The AAC has similar problems that the MWC had when TCU, Utah, and BYU were humming - no clear-cut football king and too much weight at the bottom.
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The B10 has OSU, Wiscy, MSU, Mich and PSU as well as Rutgers, Purdue and Indiana. In other words no clear cut king and many bad teams. But they still get paid.

Um....you just made the argument.

A football king is a school that can average 70-80K+ home attendance over 6-7 home games and grabs multiple OTA and prime ESPN timeslots, with TV ratings several times per year of 2-3+ million viewers.

Ohio St., Michigan, and Penn St. easily hit that definition. That's THREE kings in the Big Ten. Wisconsin and Michigan St. are pretty close. Nebraska and Iowa can attract solid TV ratings. Rutgers, Purdue, and Illinois are absolutely beneficiaries, but the networks pay for the king content.

The SEC? Alabama, LSU, Georgia, Auburn. Even when down, Florida, Texas A&M, Tennessee and South Carolina still fill stadiums and grab TV ratings.

The ACC has Clemson and Florida State. Virginia Tech, Miami, and Louisville can attract solid TV ratings.

The Big 12 has Texas and Oklahoma. TCU, WVU, and Oklahoma St. can also attract ratings.

The PAC 12 has USC. Stanford and one of Washington, Oregon, or UCLA usually attract solid ratings. Even tertiary matchups like Washington St-Colorado or Utah-Arizona can perform well at times.

The AAC has whoever is having the breakout season - recently UCF and Houston. But, even with the amazing 2017 run, UCF only had 2 pre-bowl games with more than 1 million viewers. Now, they were great games, with FANTASTIC TV ratings, but UCF didn't get chosen for the OTA broadcasts until it was clear that they were a good team with a strong national ranking; 10 UCF games last year were off the radar. Houston was more consistent in its 2016 TV ratings...but then came back to earth last year. And, still fewer than 40K fans per game.