(09-05-2018 09:19 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:36 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  The misery index is too complicated.

Try this:

(50-A) x L

A is the average attendance in thousands.
L is the number of losses

Less attendance, more losses = more misery.

Make sure to use butt cheeks in seats for the attendance number. Which is close to what most schools already do, (except WKU)

I think you have that backwards......

you mean to use announced attendance instead of butts which is what all CUSA schools do except Western.

(09-05-2018 08:51 PM)carolinaherd Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 07:19 PM)Hilltopper2K Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 11:45 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Do you all think I should change it from "Beat a P5 school by 21 or more" to "Beat a P5 school?" or should I keep the same format as the P5 has it?

Yeah, if we beat KY or Vandy by even 1 I get pretty jazzed about that.

You might also include "beat a G5 team by 28 or more". That is pretty exciting.

Fellow conference members...this is all crap! We are all supporters of great programs throughout America who have not had the good fortune to be invited to join one of the countries colonial country clubs...we are becoming the 21st century slaves...
We continue to strive to compete with programs who are literally receiving 10’s of millions of dollars each year via their conference memberships while we might get a check for $500,000 at best for a BOWL GAME at years end and we should be happy and say Thank you master...This is just another disguised form of slavery in America...

Damn...you need a Valium. While I dont disagree with the point you are trying to make. Slavery?

(09-06-2018 08:38 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 09:19 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:36 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  The misery index is too complicated.

Try this:

(50-A) x L

A is the average attendance in thousands.
L is the number of losses

Less attendance, more losses = more misery.

Make sure to use butt cheeks in seats for the attendance number. Which is close to what most schools already do, (except WKU)

I think you have that backwards......

you mean to use announced attendance instead of butts which is what all CUSA schools do except Western.

Butt CHEEKS. Most fans bring two. Comes out about the same as tix sold/printed (most places!!)

(09-07-2018 02:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Butt CHEEKS. Most fans bring two. Comes out about the same as tix sold/printed (most places!!)

Most is correct. I, in fact, only have one butt cheek. It was gnawed off by my ex-wife. On an unrelated note, I do benefit from "Leevi's 3's" pants!

(09-07-2018 11:00 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-07-2018 02:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Butt CHEEKS. Most fans bring two. Comes out about the same as tix sold/printed (most places!!)

Most is correct. I, in fact, only have one butt cheek. It was gnawed off by my ex-wife. On an unrelated note, I do benefit from "Leevi's 3's" pants!

Now, THERE's the mental image I was hoping to avoid...

(09-07-2018 11:02 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(09-07-2018 11:00 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(09-07-2018 02:03 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  Butt CHEEKS. Most fans bring two. Comes out about the same as tix sold/printed (most places!!)

Most is correct. I, in fact, only have one butt cheek. It was gnawed off by my ex-wife. On an unrelated note, I do benefit from "Leevi's 3's" pants!

Now, THERE's the mental image I was hoping to avoid...

Well, I'm here for entertainment purposes!

Good morning. Here is an update. Remember, you can only move one spot per week. Charlotte, UAB, WKU, and UTEP all dropped a level. Nobody gained a level.

A Team's Fans go UP a level if they:

- beat their rival
- put together a 3 game win streak
- put together a 5 game win streak
- beat a ranked team
- beat a P5 team
- beat a G5 team by 21 or more
- win the division

A Team's Fans go DOWN a level if they:

- lose to their rival
- put together a 3 game losing streak
- put together a 5 game losing streak
- lose to any FCS opponent
- lose any game by 21 points or more
- fail to become bowl eligible

Level 2:
Marshall
North Texas

Level 3:
FIU
La Tech
USM

Level 4:
Charlotte (lost by 21 or more; lost to their rival)
FAU
MTSU
ODU
Rice
UAB (lost by 21 or more)
UTSA

Level 5:
WKU (lost to an FCS school)
UTEP (lost by 21 or more)

(09-06-2018 08:28 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(09-06-2018 08:21 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  Is there an even lower level we can drop to after we lose to an FCS team this weekend?

It goes all the way to level 9 my friend. See you there

Well, I called that one. Now Ima go ahead and call a more than 21 point loss to Louieville.

So we can achieve separation from the pack and drop down an even lower level.

Losing to ULM at home should mean automatic level 9.

You guys remind me of those skinny girls who say “I need to lose weight” in front of the fat girl.

(09-09-2018 06:50 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Good morning. Here is an update. Remember, you can only move one spot per week. Charlotte, UAB, WKU, and UTEP all dropped a level. Nobody gained a level.

A Team's Fans go UP a level if they:

- beat their rival
- put together a 3 game win streak
- put together a 5 game win streak
- beat a ranked team
- beat a P5 team
- beat a G5 team by 21 or more
- win the division

A Team's Fans go DOWN a level if they:

- lose to their rival
- put together a 3 game losing streak
- put together a 5 game losing streak
- lose to any FCS opponent
- lose any game by 21 points or more
- fail to become bowl eligible

Level 2:
Marshall
North Texas

Level 3:
FIU
La Tech
USM

Level 4:
Charlotte (lost by 21 or more; lost to their rival)
FAU
MTSU
ODU
Rice
UAB (lost by 21 or more)
UTSA

Level 5:
WKU (lost to an FCS school)
UTEP (lost by 21 or more)

Damn. So does the Charlotte or ODU fan feel better about their program than the WKU fan?

IDK. Sure, Western is down. But I think you can still at least live off of recent success. Charlotte in particular, from an outsiders perspective at least, has nothing to hang their hat on.

IDK. Seems odd.

Also, a warning to FAU fans. I know you don't want to hear it, but success is certainly fleeting on this level. Get used to the ebb and flow.

(09-11-2018 09:44 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  You guys remind me of those skinny girls who say “I need to lose weight” in front of the fat girl.

I did notice that three of the 12 voters in the D1 Texas Teams poll *didn’t* pick UTEP dead last.
I was going to mock those three voters but I guess I haven’t seen what Texas State has done this year.

(09-11-2018 10:10 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 09:44 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  You guys remind me of those skinny girls who say “I need to lose weight” in front of the fat girl.

I did notice that three of the 12 voters in the D1 Texas Teams poll *didn’t* pick UTEP dead last.
I was going to mock those three voters but I guess I haven’t seen what Texas State has done this year.

I need to see that poll. Is it the one from Dallas sports days?

(09-11-2018 09:33 PM)rileylives Wrote:  Damn. So does the Charlotte or ODU fan feel better about their program than the WKU fan?

IDK. Sure, Western is down. But I think you can still at least live off of recent success. Charlotte in particular, from an outsiders perspective at least, has nothing to hang their hat on.

IDK. Seems odd.

Also, a warning to FAU fans. I know you don't want to hear it, but success is certainly fleeting on this level. Get used to the ebb and flow.

Well. Possibly. We haven't lost to an FCS school, it was Liberty. Some are extra pissed due to the politics. I'm personally just pissed because ODU just rolled over and died against them.

On the other hand, a lot of western fans on here were predicting a historically awful season. Some ODU posters were predicting 10 wins! So that part isn't quantified either. I'd imagine those posters are feeling a lot worse than those of us who only predicted 4-5 wins, but it still feels bad.

Plus - this index only measures the season. Everyone started at level 3 regardless of past success. I'd imagine if we were to take past seasons into account we'd all start at different levels that nobody would agree on

I mean for WKU if you lose to Maine at home you might as well cancel season....Misery is as low as you can get, I wish we played UofL two seasons ago when we were good...

(09-11-2018 09:33 PM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-09-2018 06:50 AM)odu09 Wrote:  Good morning. Here is an update. Remember, you can only move one spot per week. Charlotte, UAB, WKU, and UTEP all dropped a level. Nobody gained a level.

A Team's Fans go UP a level if they:

- beat their rival
- put together a 3 game win streak
- put together a 5 game win streak
- beat a ranked team
- beat a P5 team
- beat a G5 team by 21 or more
- win the division

A Team's Fans go DOWN a level if they:

- lose to their rival
- put together a 3 game losing streak
- put together a 5 game losing streak
- lose to any FCS opponent
- lose any game by 21 points or more
- fail to become bowl eligible

Level 2:
Marshall
North Texas

Level 3:
FIU
La Tech
USM

Level 4:
Charlotte (lost by 21 or more; lost to their rival)
FAU
MTSU
ODU
Rice
UAB (lost by 21 or more)
UTSA

Level 5:
WKU (lost to an FCS school)
UTEP (lost by 21 or more)

Damn. So does the Charlotte or ODU fan feel better about their program than the WKU fan?

IDK. Sure, Western is down. But I think you can still at least live off of recent success. Charlotte in particular, from an outsiders perspective at least, has nothing to hang their hat on.

IDK. Seems odd.

Also, a warning to FAU fans. I know you don't want to hear it, but success is certainly fleeting on this level. Get used to the ebb and flow.

That success seems like to me 10 years ago......At least WKU fans had zero expectations entering this season except for a WKU blog who were saying we were going to win 8 games, I called them out on Twitter for that nonsense....ODU fans were acting like they were goin 12-0 this preseason so they should be really disappointed....I expected WKU to win 2 games this season with one being Maine, now I expect to go 0-12, anything else would be a surprise to me...

(09-12-2018 08:32 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  That success seems like to me 10 years ago......At least WKU fans had zero expectations entering this season except for a WKU blog who were saying we were going to win 8 games, I called them out on Twitter for that nonsense....ODU fans were acting like they were goin 12-0 this preseason so they should be really disappointed....I expected WKU to win 2 games this season with one being Maine, now I expect to go 0-12, anything else would be a surprise to me...

Prepare to be surprised October 20th

Thanks for keeping up with this, odu09

From my time on this board, these are the "rivalries" that I've noticed (either by multiple posters specifically referring to said team as a rival or by how much animosity exists between the two schools)

WKU-MTSU
Rice-Houston
UTEP-NMSU
FAU-FIU
UNT-SMU
UNT-UTSA
Marshall-Miami, OH
Marshall-WKU
UAB vs UA System BoR

Usm's fan misery index is level 5. Lowest its been since the 0-12 season. I am just informing you. Its not up for debate.