Expecting 0-4 is sad. Byu was horrible last year. I think expecting 0-4 is a reflection on how this coaching staff prepares. I was expecting 2-2 and still believe there's a chance if not 1-4. We lose to BYU the seasons garbage. Winning the MAC is just playing the little sisters of the poor. I expect better at this stage of NIU football and so should everyone else.

I don’t when Brinkman will be back, but Harmston was terrible. He missed block after block.

After what I saw yesterday we should expect a losing season. These idiot coaches won’t get the most out of the talent of the team. Harbison and Nettles will be wasted and the defense will be hung out to dry in every close game. Harbs who should get 25 carries per game will only get 10 rushes and will not be allowed to make positive impact on the game. Instead the short passing game which is totally ineffective because of awful blocking will take center stage and continue to be totally ineffective... sorry.

(09-02-2018 05:28 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  After what I saw yesterday we should expect a losing season. These idiot coaches won’t get the most out of the talent of the team. Harbison and Nettles will be wasted and the defense will be hung out to dry in every close game. Harbs who should get 25 carries per game will only get 10 rushes and will not be allowed to make positive impact on the game. Instead the short passing game which is totally ineffective because of awful blocking will take center stage and continue to be totally ineffective... sorry.

I wish I could disagree.

(09-02-2018 05:02 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Expecting 0-4 is sad. Byu was horrible last year. I think expecting 0-4 is a reflection on how this coaching staff prepares. I was expecting 2-2 and still believe there's a chance if not 1-4. We lose to BYU the seasons garbage. Winning the MAC is just playing the little sisters of the poor. I expect better at this stage of NIU football and so should everyone else.

I agree 100%.
Winning the MAC (the worst Conference) doesn't mean much when you can't beat anybody outside the Conference.
I want to better than the MAC.

When was the last time a NIU running back get 25 carries?
Has Carey ever had a running back get 25?

(09-02-2018 03:38 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 02:25 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:26 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The first season is 12 games. That’s the season where you hope for greatness. 10 wins, a conf. Champ., and really good bowl.

The second season is 8 games of in-conference play where you hope to win your division and get a so-so bowl along with a conference championship.

It’s safe to say that first season is gone. This offense is only built for Mac play and I’d suggest that fans now adjust their attention on the second season.

I am not even sure what that means, other than being optimistic, negative into a positive.

I think what you are implying is that the defense is good enough to get job done, hold crap MAC teams to 14 or less.That they can score 20,30 against these incompetent MAC teams than make up a big chunk of the worst 20 teams in the country. Then they play 2-3 avg/good teams and lose. Since they don't play their cupcake this year, 6 wins may be a big hurdle. But if they can go 6-6 they can look forward to their annual ass kicking in a bowl vs. a mediocre team.

Time to start over at 6-6 or worse, 7-5 w/ bowl loss.

The teams with just slightly better athletes have the ability to recover and hold those short routes to minimal or no gain. So much of our O is based on run-after-catch, but that’s not there against better teams. Same with the qb runs. Those holes close up too fast for average athletes like Childers. I’m not saying Iowa is way more talented, but success in football is often measured in just inches.

I get what you are saying, but this offense is made for nothing. I mean Childers last year went 20/36 for 128 yards td, 2 int vs. CMU. 6 yards a completion, not even 4 an attempt? That's even worse than yesterday. And he ran 12 times for 11 yards that game.

Some guys may be inches apart. QB position has has of late become a case of feet and now yards.

(09-02-2018 08:20 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 03:38 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 02:25 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:26 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The first season is 12 games. That’s the season where you hope for greatness. 10 wins, a conf. Champ., and really good bowl.

The second season is 8 games of in-conference play where you hope to win your division and get a so-so bowl along with a conference championship.

It’s safe to say that first season is gone. This offense is only built for Mac play and I’d suggest that fans now adjust their attention on the second season.

I am not even sure what that means, other than being optimistic, negative into a positive.

I think what you are implying is that the defense is good enough to get job done, hold crap MAC teams to 14 or less.That they can score 20,30 against these incompetent MAC teams than make up a big chunk of the worst 20 teams in the country. Then they play 2-3 avg/good teams and lose. Since they don't play their cupcake this year, 6 wins may be a big hurdle. But if they can go 6-6 they can look forward to their annual ass kicking in a bowl vs. a mediocre team.

Time to start over at 6-6 or worse, 7-5 w/ bowl loss.

The teams with just slightly better athletes have the ability to recover and hold those short routes to minimal or no gain. So much of our O is based on run-after-catch, but that’s not there against better teams. Same with the qb runs. Those holes close up too fast for average athletes like Childers. I’m not saying Iowa is way more talented, but success in football is often measured in just inches.

I get what you are saying, but this offense is made for nothing. I mean Childers last year went 20/36 for 128 yards td, 2 int vs. CMU. 6 yards a completion, not even 4 an attempt? That's even worse than yesterday. And he ran 12 times for 11 yards that game.

Some guys may be inches apart. QB position has has of late become a case of feet and now yards.

I shouldnt say it’s designed for MAC play, but more so, that’s the only place where it’s remotley effective.

(09-02-2018 07:08 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 05:02 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Expecting 0-4 is sad. Byu was horrible last year. I think expecting 0-4 is a reflection on how this coaching staff prepares. I was expecting 2-2 and still believe there's a chance if not 1-4. We lose to BYU the seasons garbage. Winning the MAC is just playing the little sisters of the poor. I expect better at this stage of NIU football and so should everyone else.

I agree 100%.
Winning the MAC (the worst Conference) doesn't mean much when you can't beat anybody outside the Conference.
I want to better than the MAC.

Couldn't agree more.

(09-02-2018 05:28 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  After what I saw yesterday we should expect a losing season. These idiot coaches won’t get the most out of the talent of the team. Harbison and Nettles will be wasted and the defense will be hung out to dry in every close game. Harbs who should get 25 carries per game will only get 10 rushes and will not be allowed to make positive impact on the game. Instead the short passing game which is totally ineffective because of awful blocking will take center stage and continue to be totally ineffective... sorry.

The blocking wasn't that bad. Childers held onto the ball too long and couldn't find the secondary target. And for being supposedly mobile, he wasn't too mobile.

(09-04-2018 03:02 PM)MiamiHuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 05:28 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  After what I saw yesterday we should expect a losing season. These idiot coaches won’t get the most out of the talent of the team. Harbison and Nettles will be wasted and the defense will be hung out to dry in every close game. Harbs who should get 25 carries per game will only get 10 rushes and will not be allowed to make positive impact on the game. Instead the short passing game which is totally ineffective because of awful blocking will take center stage and continue to be totally ineffective... sorry.

The blocking wasn't that bad. Childers held onto the ball too long and couldn't find the secondary target. And for being supposedly mobile, he wasn't too mobile.

I was talking about the wide receivers awful blocking the entire game. The OL did a nice job. Wish they were able to take over the game like I thought they could have.

I noticed the WR's lack of blocking too. I'm sure part(maybe most) of it is that they are young and don't have the strength to handle the db's yet. Childers definitely was slow in his reads thus late with his passes and missed opportunities when guys were open. He did make a nice throw to the Iowa sideline when the shorter, presumably primary receiver was covered and made a nice pass over the top of a defender for a first down. The pick at the end of the first half bore an eerie resemblance to the pick that got Santa sent to Cape Girardau. Receiver was wide open early but the pass was late and short. If its longer or overthrown we score or get another shot because there was no one behind Tucker.

Ya'll need to RELAX!!!

(09-02-2018 07:08 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 05:02 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Expecting 0-4 is sad. Byu was horrible last year. I think expecting 0-4 is a reflection on how this coaching staff prepares. I was expecting 2-2 and still believe there's a chance if not 1-4. We lose to BYU the seasons garbage. Winning the MAC is just playing the little sisters of the poor. I expect better at this stage of NIU football and so should everyone else.

I agree 100%.
Winning the MAC (the worst Conference) doesn't mean much when you can't beat anybody outside the Conference.
I want to better than the MAC.

The Sun Belt is considered to be the worst FB Conference.#10 of 10. The MACflip-flops from #8-9 with CUSA. MWC #7 and AAC#6.The MAC's strength is the quality of its middle-tier teams. The bottom programs are the ones keeping the MAC from being rated higher. Only the AAC had more P5 wins than the MAC in 2017.

(09-02-2018 04:39 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  Was expecting 0-4 in the non conference games. Problem is STF has set this team up for failure this year. There is no way we’re getting through that gauntlet of OOC games unscathed. And the injuries will cost us as we head into conference play.

And to add onto that, Carey could care less if his team was set up for failure because his job is safe. As long as STF is here, Carey knows he is safe, and as far as we can tell, NIU has no one currently evaluating STF's job, which Carey also knows. If there was one word to summarize the problem with NIU athletics right now, I would without hesitation use the word "accountability". Noone is accountable for anything.

Fall Sports so far at NIU
Volleyball 1-6
Women's Soccer 0-5 (have not scored a goal)
Football 0-1
Men's Soccer 2-2

We need to turn this around.

(09-02-2018 11:32 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 11:26 AM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  The first season is 12 games. That’s the season where you hope for greatness. 10 wins, a conf. Champ., and really good bowl.

The second season is 8 games of in-conference play where you hope to win your division and get a so-so bowl along with a conference championship.

It’s safe to say that first season is gone. This offense is only built for Mac play and I’d suggest that fans now adjust their attention on the second season.

Just remember that CMU is in the MAC, as is Toledo, WMU, and other fine teams. When you have no offense and a crap coaching staff, there aren't many games you'll win in any conference. We may be in a fight for last place.

None of those teams have Iowa's defense.

(09-04-2018 01:57 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 07:08 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 05:02 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  Expecting 0-4 is sad. Byu was horrible last year. I think expecting 0-4 is a reflection on how this coaching staff prepares. I was expecting 2-2 and still believe there's a chance if not 1-4. We lose to BYU the seasons garbage. Winning the MAC is just playing the little sisters of the poor. I expect better at this stage of NIU football and so should everyone else.

I agree 100%.
Winning the MAC (the worst Conference) doesn't mean much when you can't beat anybody outside the Conference.
I want to better than the MAC.

Couldn't agree more.

Ditto. I really thought this program would have progressed much farther than it has. I can't get excited for MAC play if we go 0-4 in the non-conf schedule.