(09-10-2018 09:50 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  at some point don't you get a critical mass of cancellations so that teams can schedule SOMEONE during their bye week? of course, many schools won't want to do that (OR they won't want to accept a road trip)...

Right. And on top of that, few coaches would want to replace a canceled game with a more difficult opponent. If you think your team is not going to get anywhere near 6 wins this year, or if you think your team is sure to get 6, then there's little incentive to replace the canceled game anyway.

(09-08-2018 10:36 AM)ken d Wrote:  These events are occurring with increasing regularity. Visiting teams in buy games need to do a better lawyering job in the future.

Stick out from the others, and good luck getting a sniff. Small schools sign out of fear because the big schools WILL blackball them, and spread the word to their colleagues.

(09-10-2018 05:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:14 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I get that it stinks for Akron, but I don't know why I'm supposed to feel sorry for them.

1. Game gets cancelled...not Akron's fault, but they didn't consider that possibility and get a favorable clause in the contract.

There should be a fairly standard clause that applies to these sort of situations, that is, cancellations that are unpredictable but not uncommon in occurrence. If no one bothered to address it ahead of time then you're at the mercy of spur of the moment decisions.

2. Nebraska offers to play the game the next day which is not at all unreasonable given the fact that Akron has yet to travel back home.

Akron backs out because they don't like the hotel situation. That's fine, but your reps didn't stick around long enough to figure something out. You chose to leave town without a resolution so what's NU supposed to do?

No one would have liked the hotel situation and if the game wasn't going to be the next day there was no reason to stay in Lincoln to work things out. Phones, fax and email exist. They almost certainly negotiated the game without ever being in Lincoln to negotiate so leaving is absolutely irrelevant.

Not with regard to whether or not a game got played that weekend.

All they had to do was hash out a deal that afternoon/evening if they wanted to play on Sunday or maybe even Monday evening(Labor Day). But once Akron left town then obviously no game is going to be played at that point. The only other option on the table would be to schedule Week 14 and that's probably not happening.

I understand not liking the hotel situation. I don't blame them for that, but that's not Nebraska's fault either.

I'm going to bet that they could have stayed overnight albeit in separate hotels on Saturday and then perhaps arranged something different to stay over Sunday night and then perhaps play on Monday. Perhaps they discussed that and didn't find it favorable. It doesn't matter though because as soon as Akron officials threw their hands up and left town then everything else is a moot point. You can't play a game if you're not in town and you can't fulfill the contract if you're not playing a game.

If I was a Nebraska official then perhaps I would offer them to come back in a couple of years. I'd maybe offer to pay their travel expenses back home which is the neighborly thing to do but in no way an obligation. I'd probably offer to pay half the agreed upon amount this season and the other half if they come back and play in a couple of years. Maybe throw in a basketball game between now and then just to make it a little more palatable.

There are lots of ways you could play with it, but my point is that Akron is not a victim here. It's bad luck...it happens.

Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

(09-11-2018 08:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 05:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:14 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I get that it stinks for Akron, but I don't know why I'm supposed to feel sorry for them.

1. Game gets cancelled...not Akron's fault, but they didn't consider that possibility and get a favorable clause in the contract.

There should be a fairly standard clause that applies to these sort of situations, that is, cancellations that are unpredictable but not uncommon in occurrence. If no one bothered to address it ahead of time then you're at the mercy of spur of the moment decisions.

2. Nebraska offers to play the game the next day which is not at all unreasonable given the fact that Akron has yet to travel back home.

Akron backs out because they don't like the hotel situation. That's fine, but your reps didn't stick around long enough to figure something out. You chose to leave town without a resolution so what's NU supposed to do?

No one would have liked the hotel situation and if the game wasn't going to be the next day there was no reason to stay in Lincoln to work things out. Phones, fax and email exist. They almost certainly negotiated the game without ever being in Lincoln to negotiate so leaving is absolutely irrelevant.

Not with regard to whether or not a game got played that weekend.

All they had to do was hash out a deal that afternoon/evening if they wanted to play on Sunday or maybe even Monday evening(Labor Day). But once Akron left town then obviously no game is going to be played at that point. The only other option on the table would be to schedule Week 14 and that's probably not happening.

I understand not liking the hotel situation. I don't blame them for that, but that's not Nebraska's fault either.

I'm going to bet that they could have stayed overnight albeit in separate hotels on Saturday and then perhaps arranged something different to stay over Sunday night and then perhaps play on Monday. Perhaps they discussed that and didn't find it favorable. It doesn't matter though because as soon as Akron officials threw their hands up and left town then everything else is a moot point. You can't play a game if you're not in town and you can't fulfill the contract if you're not playing a game.

If I was a Nebraska official then perhaps I would offer them to come back in a couple of years. I'd maybe offer to pay their travel expenses back home which is the neighborly thing to do but in no way an obligation. I'd probably offer to pay half the agreed upon amount this season and the other half if they come back and play in a couple of years. Maybe throw in a basketball game between now and then just to make it a little more palatable.

There are lots of ways you could play with it, but my point is that Akron is not a victim here. It's bad luck...it happens.

Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

(09-11-2018 01:53 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 08:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 05:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:14 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  I get that it stinks for Akron, but I don't know why I'm supposed to feel sorry for them.

1. Game gets cancelled...not Akron's fault, but they didn't consider that possibility and get a favorable clause in the contract.

There should be a fairly standard clause that applies to these sort of situations, that is, cancellations that are unpredictable but not uncommon in occurrence. If no one bothered to address it ahead of time then you're at the mercy of spur of the moment decisions.

2. Nebraska offers to play the game the next day which is not at all unreasonable given the fact that Akron has yet to travel back home.

Akron backs out because they don't like the hotel situation. That's fine, but your reps didn't stick around long enough to figure something out. You chose to leave town without a resolution so what's NU supposed to do?

No one would have liked the hotel situation and if the game wasn't going to be the next day there was no reason to stay in Lincoln to work things out. Phones, fax and email exist. They almost certainly negotiated the game without ever being in Lincoln to negotiate so leaving is absolutely irrelevant.

Not with regard to whether or not a game got played that weekend.

All they had to do was hash out a deal that afternoon/evening if they wanted to play on Sunday or maybe even Monday evening(Labor Day). But once Akron left town then obviously no game is going to be played at that point. The only other option on the table would be to schedule Week 14 and that's probably not happening.

I understand not liking the hotel situation. I don't blame them for that, but that's not Nebraska's fault either.

I'm going to bet that they could have stayed overnight albeit in separate hotels on Saturday and then perhaps arranged something different to stay over Sunday night and then perhaps play on Monday. Perhaps they discussed that and didn't find it favorable. It doesn't matter though because as soon as Akron officials threw their hands up and left town then everything else is a moot point. You can't play a game if you're not in town and you can't fulfill the contract if you're not playing a game.

If I was a Nebraska official then perhaps I would offer them to come back in a couple of years. I'd maybe offer to pay their travel expenses back home which is the neighborly thing to do but in no way an obligation. I'd probably offer to pay half the agreed upon amount this season and the other half if they come back and play in a couple of years. Maybe throw in a basketball game between now and then just to make it a little more palatable.

There are lots of ways you could play with it, but my point is that Akron is not a victim here. It's bad luck...it happens.

Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

Just as logical to conclude that Akron wasn't willing to have their teams spread over the region then "regroup" and continue to pay expenses for being on the road.

I wouldn't expect Nick Saban to hang around two days nor Gus Malzahn and I seriously doubt that if the shoe were on the other foot that Scott Frost would either.

We don't know what is going on and won't know until either there is a deal or pronouncement of impasse but yet you continue to cast Akron as the bad guy because they weren't willing to disperse their team across multiple facilities and "maybe" get them back together the day before a game.

Nebraska doesn't have any non-conference openings until 2024, so they will probably just settle with Akron for some amount of money less than the original payday rather than trying to reschedule.

(09-11-2018 08:31 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Nebraska doesn't have any non-conference openings until 2024, so they will probably just settle with Akron for some amount of money less than the original payday rather than trying to reschedule.

Unless someone needs the final week game that would seem most likely unless they want to dump that trip Cincinnati.

(09-11-2018 02:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:53 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 08:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 05:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 01:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  No one would have liked the hotel situation and if the game wasn't going to be the next day there was no reason to stay in Lincoln to work things out. Phones, fax and email exist. They almost certainly negotiated the game without ever being in Lincoln to negotiate so leaving is absolutely irrelevant.

Not with regard to whether or not a game got played that weekend.

All they had to do was hash out a deal that afternoon/evening if they wanted to play on Sunday or maybe even Monday evening(Labor Day). But once Akron left town then obviously no game is going to be played at that point. The only other option on the table would be to schedule Week 14 and that's probably not happening.

I understand not liking the hotel situation. I don't blame them for that, but that's not Nebraska's fault either.

I'm going to bet that they could have stayed overnight albeit in separate hotels on Saturday and then perhaps arranged something different to stay over Sunday night and then perhaps play on Monday. Perhaps they discussed that and didn't find it favorable. It doesn't matter though because as soon as Akron officials threw their hands up and left town then everything else is a moot point. You can't play a game if you're not in town and you can't fulfill the contract if you're not playing a game.

If I was a Nebraska official then perhaps I would offer them to come back in a couple of years. I'd maybe offer to pay their travel expenses back home which is the neighborly thing to do but in no way an obligation. I'd probably offer to pay half the agreed upon amount this season and the other half if they come back and play in a couple of years. Maybe throw in a basketball game between now and then just to make it a little more palatable.

There are lots of ways you could play with it, but my point is that Akron is not a victim here. It's bad luck...it happens.

Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

Just as logical to conclude that Akron wasn't willing to have their teams spread over the region then "regroup" and continue to pay expenses for being on the road.

I wouldn't expect Nick Saban to hang around two days nor Gus Malzahn and I seriously doubt that if the shoe were on the other foot that Scott Frost would either.

We don't know what is going on and won't know until either there is a deal or pronouncement of impasse but yet you continue to cast Akron as the bad guy because they weren't willing to disperse their team across multiple facilities and "maybe" get them back together the day before a game.

I'm not saying Akron is the bad guy.

I'm saying they're not entitled to any money if they didn't play a game. The implication from some is that Nebraska is screwing them and I don't agree with that.

(09-14-2018 01:33 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 02:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:53 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 08:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-10-2018 05:18 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Not with regard to whether or not a game got played that weekend.

All they had to do was hash out a deal that afternoon/evening if they wanted to play on Sunday or maybe even Monday evening(Labor Day). But once Akron left town then obviously no game is going to be played at that point. The only other option on the table would be to schedule Week 14 and that's probably not happening.

I understand not liking the hotel situation. I don't blame them for that, but that's not Nebraska's fault either.

I'm going to bet that they could have stayed overnight albeit in separate hotels on Saturday and then perhaps arranged something different to stay over Sunday night and then perhaps play on Monday. Perhaps they discussed that and didn't find it favorable. It doesn't matter though because as soon as Akron officials threw their hands up and left town then everything else is a moot point. You can't play a game if you're not in town and you can't fulfill the contract if you're not playing a game.

If I was a Nebraska official then perhaps I would offer them to come back in a couple of years. I'd maybe offer to pay their travel expenses back home which is the neighborly thing to do but in no way an obligation. I'd probably offer to pay half the agreed upon amount this season and the other half if they come back and play in a couple of years. Maybe throw in a basketball game between now and then just to make it a little more palatable.

There are lots of ways you could play with it, but my point is that Akron is not a victim here. It's bad luck...it happens.

Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

Just as logical to conclude that Akron wasn't willing to have their teams spread over the region then "regroup" and continue to pay expenses for being on the road.

I wouldn't expect Nick Saban to hang around two days nor Gus Malzahn and I seriously doubt that if the shoe were on the other foot that Scott Frost would either.

We don't know what is going on and won't know until either there is a deal or pronouncement of impasse but yet you continue to cast Akron as the bad guy because they weren't willing to disperse their team across multiple facilities and "maybe" get them back together the day before a game.

I'm not saying Akron is the bad guy.

I'm saying they're not entitled to any money if they didn't play a game. The implication from some is that Nebraska is screwing them and I don't agree with that.

From an equitable standpoint, Akron should get their travel costs, after that one has to look to the contract and from the little excerpt we've seen the contract stinks.

(09-14-2018 02:29 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 01:33 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 02:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:53 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 08:30 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Not saying Akron is a victim nor saying that they should receive anything beyond compensation for out-of-pocket expenses for traveling to Lincoln without seeing the full contract to know the parties obligations.

You say you wouldn't like the hotel situation then suggest they should have hung around to shoot for Monday. The hotel scenario wasn't going to be better staying longer.

Florida and Idaho faced a near exact scenario a few years ago. The final agreement was for Idaho to keep the money and return in a few years with Florida paying only Idaho's actual travel costs. ULM and Florida State faced it opted for playing the final week of the season.

Things work out when people want to work them out.

So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

Just as logical to conclude that Akron wasn't willing to have their teams spread over the region then "regroup" and continue to pay expenses for being on the road.

I wouldn't expect Nick Saban to hang around two days nor Gus Malzahn and I seriously doubt that if the shoe were on the other foot that Scott Frost would either.

We don't know what is going on and won't know until either there is a deal or pronouncement of impasse but yet you continue to cast Akron as the bad guy because they weren't willing to disperse their team across multiple facilities and "maybe" get them back together the day before a game.

I'm not saying Akron is the bad guy.

I'm saying they're not entitled to any money if they didn't play a game. The implication from some is that Nebraska is screwing them and I don't agree with that.

From an equitable standpoint, Akron should get their travel costs, after that one has to look to the contract and from the little excerpt we've seen the contract stinks.

If Nebraska wanted to be neighborly then they could offer to pay some of the travel costs, and they probably should, but Nebraska isn't at any more fault for the weather or the hotel situation than Akron is. They didn't sign a contract with Akron to bring them all the way out to Lincoln just so they could short them. Nebraska wanted to pay for a game, but it didn't happen.

The contract, whether it stinks or not, was negotiated and signed by Akron. They are obligated to live up to it. If they thought it was a bad deal then they didn't have to enter into it. If they didn't consider this possibility ahead of time and include a clause to account for it then that's still not Nebraska's fault.

But again, we don't know what's been said behind closed doors. I just find it hard to believe that Nebraska would be so hard up for cash that they would go to great lengths to short someone $1M.

From a fan's perspective, I'm more upset that they wouldn't refund tickets for a game that didn't get played.

(09-14-2018 03:57 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  From a fan's perspective, I'm more upset that they wouldn't refund tickets for a game that didn't get played.

Yeah, that is outrageous. Nebraska's athletic department generates $120 million in annual revenue. They should have issued refunds. Not issuing refunds just generates bad will with the fans who are loyal enough to actually buy tickets.

Nebraska said that if a replacement game is played on December 1, they will issue new tickets only to "season ticket holders and single-game ticket buyers who purchased Akron tickets through Nebraska athletics". In other words, if you bought tickets through Ticketmaster, you don't get a refund and you don't get a replacement ticket. If you bought tickets from StubHub, or directly from a season ticket holder who wanted to scalp their tickets to that game, you don't get a refund or a new ticket, but the season ticket holder who took your money gets replacement tickets for themselves.

Got to keep that sellout streak alive!

(09-14-2018 06:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 03:57 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  From a fan's perspective, I'm more upset that they wouldn't refund tickets for a game that didn't get played.

Yeah, that is outrageous. Nebraska's athletic department generates $120 million in annual revenue. They should have issued refunds. Not issuing refunds just generates bad will with the fans who are loyal enough to actually buy tickets.

Nebraska said that if a replacement game is played on December 1, they will issue new tickets only to "season ticket holders and single-game ticket buyers who purchased Akron tickets through Nebraska athletics". In other words, if you bought tickets through Ticketmaster, you don't get a refund and you don't get a replacement ticket. If you bought tickets from StubHub, or directly from a season ticket holder who wanted to scalp their tickets to that game, you don't get a refund or a new ticket, but the season ticket holder who took your money gets replacement tickets for themselves.

If I was a fan with a ticket to that game then I would threaten to never buy one again until that was rectified.

Absolutely ridiculous the way they handled that.

(09-14-2018 03:57 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 02:29 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 01:33 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 02:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 01:53 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  So we're barely a week out from the game being cancelled...how do we know they won't come up with something for the future? They might still be negotiating. We don't know that Nebraska isn't willing to work with Akron. It could easily be that Akron is demanding their compensation and not willing to work around the circumstances. None of us know because we're not privy to those phone calls.

My point is that Akron left town before something could be resolved which implies to me that they didn't really want to find a solution, but I'm speculating.

But no, the hotel situation would likely improve if Akron had stayed over another night. With fans leaving town and the like, that should have opened up more space. I suggested playing on Monday because that should have given the team one night together in a more hospitable environment.

Just as logical to conclude that Akron wasn't willing to have their teams spread over the region then "regroup" and continue to pay expenses for being on the road.

I wouldn't expect Nick Saban to hang around two days nor Gus Malzahn and I seriously doubt that if the shoe were on the other foot that Scott Frost would either.

We don't know what is going on and won't know until either there is a deal or pronouncement of impasse but yet you continue to cast Akron as the bad guy because they weren't willing to disperse their team across multiple facilities and "maybe" get them back together the day before a game.

I'm not saying Akron is the bad guy.

I'm saying they're not entitled to any money if they didn't play a game. The implication from some is that Nebraska is screwing them and I don't agree with that.

From an equitable standpoint, Akron should get their travel costs, after that one has to look to the contract and from the little excerpt we've seen the contract stinks.

If Nebraska wanted to be neighborly then they could offer to pay some of the travel costs, and they probably should, but Nebraska isn't at any more fault for the weather or the hotel situation than Akron is. They didn't sign a contract with Akron to bring them all the way out to Lincoln just so they could short them. Nebraska wanted to pay for a game, but it didn't happen.

The contract, whether it stinks or not, was negotiated and signed by Akron. They are obligated to live up to it. If they thought it was a bad deal then they didn't have to enter into it. If they didn't consider this possibility ahead of time and include a clause to account for it then that's still not Nebraska's fault.

But again, we don't know what's been said behind closed doors. I just find it hard to believe that Nebraska would be so hard up for cash that they would go to great lengths to short someone $1M.

From a fan's perspective, I'm more upset that they wouldn't refund tickets for a game that didn't get played.

Actually what we have seen of the contract favors Akron. They showed up ready to play and none of the listed reasons for cancelling without penalty listed in the contract happened.

I wouldn't opine that Akron wins without seeing the whole document, but the part that has been made public leaves Nebraska on the hook to pay because Akron showed up on the scheduled date, at the scheduled time and the game wasn't played but the reason for not playing wasn't listed in the contract as a justification for voiding the deal.

Right now it appears unlikely that Nebraska will be at five wins at the end of the scheduled season so the claimed handshake that the teams will play if the game is needed may not happen.

(09-14-2018 06:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 03:57 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  From a fan's perspective, I'm more upset that they wouldn't refund tickets for a game that didn't get played.

Yeah, that is outrageous. Nebraska's athletic department generates $120 million in annual revenue. They should have issued refunds. Not issuing refunds just generates bad will with the fans who are loyal enough to actually buy tickets.

Nebraska said that if a replacement game is played on December 1, they will issue new tickets only to "season ticket holders and single-game ticket buyers who purchased Akron tickets through Nebraska athletics". In other words, if you bought tickets through Ticketmaster, you don't get a refund and you don't get a replacement ticket. If you bought tickets from StubHub, or directly from a season ticket holder who wanted to scalp their tickets to that game, you don't get a refund or a new ticket, but the season ticket holder who took your money gets replacement tickets for themselves.

The replacement ticket provision is normal. Give the ticket to the party that you have recorded as the purchaser. If the person receiving the replacement sold the ticket, that's between them and the buyer of the secondary market ticket and the secondary market broker.

But no refund if there isn't a game? That's flat insane and for a program that has maintained very high fan goodwill despite disappointing results on the field that is a plan that reeks of arrogance.

When Miami at AState was cancelled, ticket buyers were given multiple options.
They could take a cash refund, they could trade the ticket for other football games, they could trade the tickets for a mini-package of basketball tickets, they could have the purchase price credited as a donation to the booster club. I traded my tickets for some hoops tickets.