(09-02-2018 12:25 PM)Djud Wrote:  Easy Dude! The is a solid team. We played a quality opponent and got the better of the play till the 2nd half. We have your guy in at QB. The coaches have his back, and will stick with him even if he makes mistakes. Hopefully he will learn when to release the ball, and like last year, there will be open recovers on deep passes. It’s a long season with a ton of football left.

I am all for supporting players. Period.

Now, this same coach has been here how many years? And he has yet (apparently) to find even ONE quarterback? He decided McIntosh was his guy, and yanked him after a win at Northwestern. Santacatarina was his guy, and yanked him after an interception and was unable to keep him on the team. His guy was Graham, until he wasn't. But Childers should be his unchallenged QB now? Doesn't make sense. And the lack of acknowledgement that that was a VERY poor performance by the offense (i.e. the offensive coaching staff) is very concerning.

Someone has to make these guys accountable. If they (offensive coaches) can't do better, (and you can't fix the problem unless you admit there is a problem) then they need to go. Graduate assistants can step up. Save coaches salaries to fund Carey's buy-out. Or take up a collection. But do SOMETHING!

I just watched the first couple of minutes of that press conference. Carey is CLUELESS! totally clueless. He seems to lay blame on the oline. Are you kidding me??? He cites dropped passes -- and thus indicts himself. "We were running the ball well, and then we had some dropped passes." Imbecile. If you show you are capable of "running the ball well" and then you choose to throw to guys that "drop passes" then THAT"S ON YOU! You made those decisions.

He didn't even acknowledge that Childers threw an interception-- it was, "we had a hold, a sack, and then a turnover!"
NO! we had a QB that held on to the ball tooo long, therefore causing a hold, a sack and then followed that by throwing and interception in the red zone!

Please!!!!!

I refuse to watch that interview because I can't stand the guy. And I knew exactly what he would say, anyway.

(09-02-2018 01:04 PM)chihuskie Wrote:  I just watched the first couple of minutes of that press conference. Carey is CLUELESS! totally clueless. He seems to lay blame on the oline. Are you kidding me??? He cites dropped passes -- and thus indicts himself. "We were running the ball well, and then we had some dropped passes." Imbecile. If you show you are capable of "running the ball well" and then you choose to throw to guys that "drop passes" then THAT"S ON YOU! You made those decisions.

He didn't even acknowledge that Childers threw an interception-- it was, "we had a hold, a sack, and then a turnover!"
NO! we had a QB that held on to the ball tooo long, therefore causing a hold, a sack and then followed that by throwing and interception in the red zone!

Please!!!!!

Dropped passes were the least of our issues. I don't think I could bear to watch that press conference.

He never gave up on Graham; Ryan had injuries that he has yet to recover from. Santa was never his guy. He clearly wanted Childers, and is now giving him every opportunity to develop. No one can question Carey’s patience and his commitment to Childers. Who knows why he didn’t have it with Santa. I still believe there is too much talent on this team to give up on them.

I heard the good team line.

Did he give the "we failed to execute" line too?

(09-02-2018 02:28 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I heard the good team line.

Did he give the "we failed to execute" line too?

Yes

(09-02-2018 02:29 PM)NILAW Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 02:28 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  I heard the good team line.

Did he give the "we failed to execute" line too?

Yes

Predictable Rod.

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

(09-02-2018 07:26 PM)logicalhuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

AbIOyss? You realize NIU has now played Iowa 9x and has won once. They competed/dominated for 1 half and then got beat in second half. Let me restate that is different terms - we are 1-9 vs Iowa. And now the program is regressing because they got beat in two quarters of football versus a B10 opponent?

Are you high? Thank the lord you aren't a decision maker of young people in higher education.

I agree. Northern left points on the board in the 1st half and dictated the game. Iowa came out 2nd half determined not to lose to NIU 2x in a row.

The game was lost in the 2nd half on both of the lines, more D than O. Lots of missed tackles and no penetration, seemed like guys were on their heels in the 2nd half.

I will add Childers seemed to have lots of time in a lot of the negative pass plays.

Iowa sure gashed the right side of the defense for big plays in the second half.

(09-02-2018 07:34 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 07:26 PM)logicalhuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

AbIOyss? You realize NIU has now played Iowa 9x and has won once. They competed/dominated for 1 half and then got beat in second half. Let me restate that is different terms - we are 1-9 vs Iowa. And now the program is regressing because they got beat in two quarters of football versus a B10 opponent?

Are you high? Thank the lord you aren't a decision maker of young people in higher education.

I agree. Northern left points on the board in the 1st half and dictated the game. Iowa came out 2nd half determined not to lose to NIU 2x in a row.

The game was lost in the 2nd half on both of the lines, more D than O. Lots of missed tackles and no penetration, seemed like guys were on their heels in the 2nd half.

I will add Childers seemed to have lots of time in a lot of the negative pass plays.

The game was lost when they went down 10.

NIU went 3 and out to begin 2nd 1/2 (I joked they should have taken the wind) and so did Iowa.

NIU goes 3 and out again, Iowa goes 58 yards for TD.

Now down 10, NIU goes 3 and out, 2 sacks, loses 19 yards Iowa goes 46 yards for a td.

Down 17, NIU goes 5 plays, 1 yard fumble and, Iowa goes 6 plays for 26 yards, for a td.

Down 24, NIU goes 3 and out, Iowa 6 and out which turns into a safety.

Up 26 Iowa goes 35 yards of a td.

2nd half, NIU's 1st 6 drives go 16 plays for -1 yards, a fumble and a safety.

Iowa 6 drives go 30 plays for 175 yards and 4 tds. Their average scoring drive was 41 yards. They averaged 5.8 yards a play during that time. For the game, 352 yards on 73 plays, 4.8 a play.

I am in no way blaming anything that happened on this game on the defense. When you can't even have a positive offense on yoru 1st 6 drives, can't run more than 5 plays, give the other team great field position what do you expect? I can't even blame the offensive line. When you have a qb that holds the ball too long, cant find a secondary receiver, read a defense, a guy they have no respect for when passing, can't throw or make a decision what does anyone think will occur, especially when from behind?

Tonight at halftime the announcers said it so well
"When your QB plays at a high level it does so much for your team, offense & defense"

(09-02-2018 09:03 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  Tonight at halftime the announcers said it so well
"When your QB plays at a high level it does so much for your team, offense & defense"

The problem is, a QB cant function at a high level in this offense right now. You can put some of the blame on Childers but moreover this is a failed system, noone could succeed in this offense, noone

(09-02-2018 09:44 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 09:03 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  Tonight at halftime the announcers said it so well
"When your QB plays at a high level it does so much for your team, offense & defense"

The problem is, a QB cant function at a high level in this offense right now. You can put some of the blame on Childers but moreover this is a failed system, noone could succeed in this offense, noone

Santa was actually pretty successful.....Childers just sucks

(09-02-2018 07:26 PM)logicalhuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

Abyss? You realize NIU has now played Iowa 9x and has won once. They competed/dominated for 1 half and then got beat in second half. Let me restate that is different terms - we are 1-9 vs Iowa. And now the program is regressing because they got beat in two quarters of football versus a B10 opponent?

Are you high? Thank the lord you aren't a decision maker of young people in higher education.

I agree with you and am not hitting the total panic button. Yes it was a horrible game by the offense. Iowa looked pretty good but it was a winnable game. One legit concern is that the defense gets down on themselves if they feel they have to do it all. With that said, our fan base is too fragile for this tough of a schedule. We came into the season underdogs against all 4 teams in OOC (BYU looked really good too). It will be great to pull off an upset or two but be realistic. We had a lot of injuries which is another huge concern. I approach each game expecting to win but won’t hit the panic button over one loss.

(09-02-2018 11:55 PM)Dtownboys Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 07:26 PM)logicalhuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  

(09-01-2018 08:56 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  It sure will be a challenge getting this team prepared to take on an even better Utah team, and a better defensive team in Utah.

The FSU game could get just downright ugly. This might be the last time we schedule "money games". I know Frazier has to get paid and all, but some things are more important.

What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

Abyss? You realize NIU has now played Iowa 9x and has won once. They competed/dominated for 1 half and then got beat in second half. Let me restate that is different terms - we are 1-9 vs Iowa. And now the program is regressing because they got beat in two quarters of football versus a B10 opponent?

Are you high? Thank the lord you aren't a decision maker of young people in higher education.

I agree with you and am not hitting the total panic button. Yes it was a horrible game by the offense. Iowa looked pretty good but it was a winnable game. One legit concern is that the defense gets down on themselves if they feel they have to do it all. With that said, our fan base is too fragile for this tough of a schedule. We came into the season underdogs against all 4 teams in OOC (BYU looked really good too). It will be great to pull off an upset or two but be realistic. We had a lot of injuries which is another huge concern. I approach each game expecting to win but won’t hit the panic button over one loss.

In past, NIU didn’t have the athletes to compete against a decent iowa team. Today’s team does. Except at QB and how he is used. That’s where the frustration comes in. That game should have gone down to the wire close, but Huskies handed it to iowa in the third by their own incompetence.

(09-02-2018 08:45 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 07:34 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 07:26 PM)logicalhuskie Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:22 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-02-2018 06:14 PM)OldTtimeNIU Wrote:  What the hell are you saying...Where is the money to come from to pay coaches? Our dilemma as a Group of 5 is that we do not have the money to hire and RETAIN good coaches
So unless you and me and other complainers are ready to up the ante money games are part of life in the MAC

All this money gives us Rod Carey. I'll take the next downgrade version of Frazier and Carey for a cheaper price and better results than what we are going through now. The university deserves better than these two idiots. I hate talking like this but they are dragging this program into the abyss

AbIOyss? You realize NIU has now played Iowa 9x and has won once. They competed/dominated for 1 half and then got beat in second half. Let me restate that is different terms - we are 1-9 vs Iowa. And now the program is regressing because they got beat in two quarters of football versus a B10 opponent?

Are you high? Thank the lord you aren't a decision maker of young people in higher education.

I agree. Northern left points on the board in the 1st half and dictated the game. Iowa came out 2nd half determined not to lose to NIU 2x in a row.

The game was lost in the 2nd half on both of the lines, more D than O. Lots of missed tackles and no penetration, seemed like guys were on their heels in the 2nd half.

I will add Childers seemed to have lots of time in a lot of the negative pass plays.

The game was lost when they went down 10.

NIU went 3 and out to begin 2nd 1/2 (I joked they should have taken the wind) and so did Iowa.

NIU goes 3 and out again, Iowa goes 58 yards for TD.

Now down 10, NIU goes 3 and out, 2 sacks, loses 19 yards Iowa goes 46 yards for a td.

Down 17, NIU goes 5 plays, 1 yard fumble and, Iowa goes 6 plays for 26 yards, for a td.

Down 24, NIU goes 3 and out, Iowa 6 and out which turns into a safety.

Up 26 Iowa goes 35 yards of a td.

2nd half, NIU's 1st 6 drives go 16 plays for -1 yards, a fumble and a safety.

Iowa 6 drives go 30 plays for 175 yards and 4 tds. Their average scoring drive was 41 yards. They averaged 5.8 yards a play during that time. For the game, 352 yards on 73 plays, 4.8 a play.

I am in no way blaming anything that happened on this game on the defense. When you can't even have a positive offense on yoru 1st 6 drives, can't run more than 5 plays, give the other team great field position what do you expect? I can't even blame the offensive line. When you have a qb that holds the ball too long, cant find a secondary receiver, read a defense, a guy they have no respect for when passing, can't throw or make a decision what does anyone think will occur, especially when from behind?

Exactly

Our defense, punter, & offensive line are B1G quality.

Our skill guys are MAC quality.

The problem is I’m not convinced we have an FBS quarterback. That makes all the difference in the world.