Thanks for playing, I'm done

Don't hurt yourself dude. It's really not a big deal... everyone is entitled to their opinion. You don't believe the WSJ sports article because of a guy you encountered in a war zone... you realize how little sense that makes... but it's okay, it's your opinion, enjoy it... but when you run into others who don't agree with you, you don't have to bring up your combat accomplishments or resort to name calling, just discredits your entire argument.

(09-25-2018 07:38 PM)odu09 Wrote:  Don't hurt yourself dude. It's really not a big deal... everyone is entitled to their opinion. You don't believe the WSJ sports article because of a guy you encountered in a war zone... you realize how little sense that makes... but it's okay, it's your opinion, enjoy it... but when you run into others who don't agree with you, you don't have to bring up your combat accomplishments or resort to name calling, just discredits your entire argument.

That was an example. I've read their paper and I know their reputation. Geez. Obviously you guys don't understand it. All I'm saying is buying into what the media writes and taking it word for word without due diligence is stupid. The writers have a agenda too. So believe what you want. I choose too do my research from multiple sources.

(09-25-2018 03:48 PM)Auburn_Blazer Wrote:  I think I believe UAB for the most part. I think the picture below shows that the 45k figure from "The Return" was relatively accurate. Given that, the WSJ report is saying that only ~12k people were at the remaining 5 games? There's no way that's accurate.

That first game last year for “the return” had about 53,000 tickets sold.

Thatvlooks great

If the tickets are sold and not at a discount or special then who cares if people show up. Does anyone charge what we charge and still get the numbers we get? Attendance looks good on TV. Sold tickets at a premium price looks good in the budget. I'll take the latter every time.

Until the NCAA mandates an audited scanned ticket count for attendance then this isn't even an issue. And I can't see any reason why they would. They didn't even enforce their 15k mandate from years ago.

We used to get in MAC games at some of their venues for canned food or mac n cheese when Marshall was away. To my knowledge we've never done anything like that. Closest thing would be discounted veteran tickets on military appreciation day.

(09-27-2018 02:44 AM)MUther Wrote:  If the tickets are sold and not at a discount or special then who cares if people show up. Does anyone charge what we charge and still get the numbers we get? Attendance looks good on TV. Sold tickets at a premium price looks good in the budget. I'll take the latter every time.

Until the NCAA mandates an audited scanned ticket count for attendance then this isn't even an issue. And I can't see any reason why they would. They didn't even enforce their 15k mandate from years ago.

We used to get in MAC games at some of their venues for canned food or mac n cheese when Marshall was away. To my knowledge we've never done anything like that. Closest thing would be discounted veteran tickets on military appreciation day.

There is still value in getting the person to come to the game, no matter how the ticket got into his/her hand (full price, discounted, free). There is still revenue to be made from concession sales. If you're hosting a lot of recruits, it makes a better impression on them with more bodies in the stands. It helps with home field advantage.

(09-27-2018 08:11 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 02:44 AM)MUther Wrote:  If the tickets are sold and not at a discount or special then who cares if people show up. Does anyone charge what we charge and still get the numbers we get? Attendance looks good on TV. Sold tickets at a premium price looks good in the budget. I'll take the latter every time.

Until the NCAA mandates an audited scanned ticket count for attendance then this isn't even an issue. And I can't see any reason why they would. They didn't even enforce their 15k mandate from years ago.

We used to get in MAC games at some of their venues for canned food or mac n cheese when Marshall was away. To my knowledge we've never done anything like that. Closest thing would be discounted veteran tickets on military appreciation day.

There is still value in getting the person to come to the game, no matter how the ticket got into his/her hand (full price, discounted, free). There is still revenue to be made from concession sales. If you're hosting a lot of recruits, it makes a better impression on them with more bodies in the stands. It helps with home field advantage.

Understood. I should have clarified during those games in which weather or some other factor is going to keep a large portion of fans from attending but in which the tickets are already sold in season tickets and many singles were purchased prior to the forecast. We generally have a loud, involved crowd even when near 50% capacity. However 15 years of mediocre football with a couple small bright spots is taking its toll on our attendance and the crowd size, activity, and price of admission we have now might not always be the case.

(09-28-2018 06:42 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 08:11 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 02:44 AM)MUther Wrote:  If the tickets are sold and not at a discount or special then who cares if people show up. Does anyone charge what we charge and still get the numbers we get? Attendance looks good on TV. Sold tickets at a premium price looks good in the budget. I'll take the latter every time.

Until the NCAA mandates an audited scanned ticket count for attendance then this isn't even an issue. And I can't see any reason why they would. They didn't even enforce their 15k mandate from years ago.

We used to get in MAC games at some of their venues for canned food or mac n cheese when Marshall was away. To my knowledge we've never done anything like that. Closest thing would be discounted veteran tickets on military appreciation day.

There is still value in getting the person to come to the game, no matter how the ticket got into his/her hand (full price, discounted, free). There is still revenue to be made from concession sales. If you're hosting a lot of recruits, it makes a better impression on them with more bodies in the stands. It helps with home field advantage.

Understood. I should have clarified during those games in which weather or some other factor is going to keep a large portion of fans from attending but in which the tickets are already sold in season tickets and many singles were purchased prior to the forecast. We generally have a loud, involved crowd even when near 50% capacity. However 15 years of mediocre football with a couple small bright spots is taking its toll on our attendance and the crowd size, activity, and price of admission we have now might not always be the case.

I've been to about 6 Marshall FB games in the recent years. Do you think the IPF had a negative impact on game attendance? It's location seems like it would have taken tailgating spots, but I"m not sure of what was in that area before.

I know when Southern Miss built the buildings to the East of our stadium, that consumed our most popular tailgating area. No way that didn't put a damper on gameday atmosphere.

Weather will not be a excuse in BG tomorrow, its just the Cayuts are on the same time and everyone has to watch them....

(09-28-2018 07:28 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Weather will not be a excuse in BG tomorrow, its just the Cayuts are on the same time and everyone has to watch them....

With the TOPS poor start to the season and UK now a top 25 team, WKU is going to lose the avg fan for viewing this weekend.

(09-28-2018 07:25 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  I've been to about 6 Marshall FB games in the recent years. Do you think the IPF had a negative impact on game attendance? It's location seems like it would have taken tailgating spots, but I"m not sure of what was in that area before.

The IPF was built on the former soccer field and the dedicated grass practice field for football, so tailgating wasn’t largely affected by the IPF.

(09-27-2018 08:11 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(09-27-2018 02:44 AM)MUther Wrote:  If the tickets are sold and not at a discount or special then who cares if people show up. Does anyone charge what we charge and still get the numbers we get? Attendance looks good on TV. Sold tickets at a premium price looks good in the budget. I'll take the latter every time.

Until the NCAA mandates an audited scanned ticket count for attendance then this isn't even an issue. And I can't see any reason why they would. They didn't even enforce their 15k mandate from years ago.

We used to get in MAC games at some of their venues for canned food or mac n cheese when Marshall was away. To my knowledge we've never done anything like that. Closest thing would be discounted veteran tickets on military appreciation day.

There is still value in getting the person to come to the game, no matter how the ticket got into his/her hand (full price, discounted, free). There is still revenue to be made from concession sales. If you're hosting a lot of recruits, it makes a better impression on them with more bodies in the stands. It helps with home field advantage.

Personally, I think both are important (tix sold and used) especially when looking at overall benefits to athletic programs. Just want to point out that the bolded may not be applicable to teams with off campus stadiums...also parking revenue :(

(09-28-2018 08:29 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  

(09-28-2018 07:25 AM)va-eagle Wrote:  I've been to about 6 Marshall FB games in the recent years. Do you think the IPF had a negative impact on game attendance? It's location seems like it would have taken tailgating spots, but I"m not sure of what was in that area before.

The IPF was built on the former soccer field and the dedicated grass practice field for football, so tailgating wasn’t largely affected by the IPF.

Got it. Honestly, I had never been on that side of the stadium prior. I did tour the IPF 2 years ago, very nice.