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RE: USM FB HC Jay Hopson gets 4 year extension
(08-30-2018 08:30 AM)TTT Wrote:  Relevant to this thread. (stolen from Bleacher Eagle on EaglePost):
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(07-02-2018 09:33 AM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  FYI: Total Allocated = "The sum of student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money allocated to the athletics department, minus certain funds the department transferred back to the school"

These ranking to me are misleading due to the "Allocated" funds. It's amazing how much some of the other schools depend on student fees and money from the school itself. Ours is the lowest in the conference at around 36%.

Here are the CUSA ranking minus the allocated funds:
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RK  School                  Conf     Total Revenue minus Allocated Funds    Total Revenue   Total Expenses  Total Allocated
67  Old Dominion            C-USA    $17,522,301                            $46,203,813     $46,181,753     $28,681,512
126 Southern Mississippi    C-USA    $15,152,035                            $23,984,639     $25,251,618     $8,832,604
104 Marshall                C-USA    $14,941,797                            $29,287,471     $30,342,248     $14,345,674
125 Louisiana Tech          C-USA    $14,035,665                            $24,722,695     $23,828,481     $10,687,030
100 Western Kentucky        C-USA    $13,585,149                            $30,439,066     $30,439,067     $16,853,917
95  Texas-El Paso           C-USA    $13,295,339                            $31,781,343     $32,039,189     $18,486,004
76  Charlotte               C-USA    $12,221,906                            $37,931,802     $33,246,728     $25,709,896
87  Middle Tennessee        C-USA    $11,663,536                            $34,040,334     $34,040,334     $22,376,798
107 Texas-San Antonio       C-USA    $11,386,703                            $28,772,631     $30,104,385     $17,385,928
94  North Texas             C-USA    $10,751,742                            $32,150,203     $36,363,381     $21,398,461
84  Florida Atlantic        C-USA    $10,556,098                            $34,509,259     $34,102,683     $23,953,161
89  Florida International   C-USA    $9,361,171                             $33,389,929     $33,003,699     $24,028,758
124 Alabama at Birmingham   C-USA    $9,314,790                             $24,795,218     $23,803,547     $15,480,428

ODU's numbers are inflated a little bit by state laws for athletics accounting. We have things included in our athletic budget that most don't. Take those out and our overall budget goes down but so does our subsidy. In JMU's FBS feasibility study several years ago they pegged the number for them at around 7 million I think. Looking at our financial statements compared to theirs those categories don't seem to be quite as high for us but you can only glean so much. Comparing these figures isn't apples to apples but it's safe to say that we still get a good bit more money from our students than USM.
08-30-2018 09:13 AM
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RE: USM FB HC Jay Hopson gets 4 year extension
(08-30-2018 09:13 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(08-30-2018 08:30 AM)TTT Wrote:  Relevant to this thread. (stolen from Bleacher Eagle on EaglePost):
FWIW


(07-02-2018 09:33 AM)Bleacher Eagle Wrote:  FYI: Total Allocated = "The sum of student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money allocated to the athletics department, minus certain funds the department transferred back to the school"

These ranking to me are misleading due to the "Allocated" funds. It's amazing how much some of the other schools depend on student fees and money from the school itself. Ours is the lowest in the conference at around 36%.

Here are the CUSA ranking minus the allocated funds:
Code:
RK  School                  Conf     Total Revenue minus Allocated Funds    Total Revenue   Total Expenses  Total Allocated
67  Old Dominion            C-USA    $17,522,301                            $46,203,813     $46,181,753     $28,681,512
126 Southern Mississippi    C-USA    $15,152,035                            $23,984,639     $25,251,618     $8,832,604
104 Marshall                C-USA    $14,941,797                            $29,287,471     $30,342,248     $14,345,674
125 Louisiana Tech          C-USA    $14,035,665                            $24,722,695     $23,828,481     $10,687,030
100 Western Kentucky        C-USA    $13,585,149                            $30,439,066     $30,439,067     $16,853,917
95  Texas-El Paso           C-USA    $13,295,339                            $31,781,343     $32,039,189     $18,486,004
76  Charlotte               C-USA    $12,221,906                            $37,931,802     $33,246,728     $25,709,896
87  Middle Tennessee        C-USA    $11,663,536                            $34,040,334     $34,040,334     $22,376,798
107 Texas-San Antonio       C-USA    $11,386,703                            $28,772,631     $30,104,385     $17,385,928
94  North Texas             C-USA    $10,751,742                            $32,150,203     $36,363,381     $21,398,461
84  Florida Atlantic        C-USA    $10,556,098                            $34,509,259     $34,102,683     $23,953,161
89  Florida International   C-USA    $9,361,171                             $33,389,929     $33,003,699     $24,028,758
124 Alabama at Birmingham   C-USA    $9,314,790                             $24,795,218     $23,803,547     $15,480,428

ODU's numbers are inflated a little bit by state laws for athletics accounting. We have things included in our athletic budget that most don't. Take those out and our overall budget goes down but so does our subsidy. In JMU's FBS feasibility study several years ago they pegged the number for them at around 7 million I think. Looking at our financial statements compared to theirs those categories don't seem to be quite as high for us but you can only glean so much. Comparing these figures isn't apples to apples but it's safe to say that we still get a good bit more money from our students than USM.

Let's not forget the qty of students. I know there was mud slung at FAU, maybe rightfully so, I don't know. But, USM and FAU could have the same student fee, but the result would be 2x USM because of FAU enrollment being so much higher.
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