Tiger87
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RE: football ticket availability
(08-20-2018 09:20 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote: (08-20-2018 02:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (08-18-2018 08:03 PM)ksigtigerdood Wrote: The website always shows the section we sit in as not available. In reality, there are plenty of tix left. If you call, they’ll gladly sell you season tix in that section. So, the website map is a little misleading.
While I expect good attendance this year, not having a big time OOC game will hurt. We need to do a better job scheduling. We need to have an Ole Miss, UT, MSU, or even a UCLA, Louisville, Missouri, etc at home each year.
We also need to do a better job of building rivalries within conference. We need to build up the UCF game as a huge rivalry. They need to do more with Navy and Houston, as well. We used to have rivalries with Louisville, Southern Miss and UAB. All of those games generated better sales. We need to build up our in-conference rivalries more.
They have been trying to get games with Louisville, UTK, Old Miss, and Vandy for a while now. For some reason, those schools aren't returning our calls.
Rivalries? Sure. I think Houston, Navy, and UCF are turning into natural rivalries. The problem is the Navy series is still young. And we don't play UCF every year. I think the Admin should invest some in promoting the Houston rivalry more.
UAB and Southern Miss were contrived rivalries. What rivalry there was was simply because we were all stuck together for so long. But those schools should not be mentioned in the same sentence when it comes to Louisville. And the statement about better sales is simply myth. Our last 5 years in CUSA, did you know ECU, Rice, and Tulsa all averaged better crowds at LBMS than USM? As for UAB, the teams with better home crowds for us in CUSA were: ECU, Rice, Tulsa, USM, Houston, UCF, and UTEP.
Some bullet point...
In 2008, Rice and Arky St had better crowds than USM.
In 2009, UAB was our poorest attended game.
In 2010, USM was our 5th lowest attendance out of 6 home games.
In 2011, Austin Peay had a better crowd than UAB.
In 2012, UTM and MTSU had better crowds than USM.
In each of those last 5 years in CUSA, UAB and USM fell in the bottom half of our home crowds for the season.
UAB and USM are the same as the schools we have on schedule this year.
Hold up... You can't just cite poorly attended games with Memphis. You have to qualify when they occurred in the season. Because If any of those poorly attended games were in Late October or November, they don't count as indicative of a rivalry or lack thereof. You know Memphians get board with football once Basketball season starts/or we lose a few. Unless we are undefeated, November games are 2/3 (at the most) of opening day, I don't care WHO the opponent is.
By 2008, we had already been to several bowls with Tommy West, and were board with anything less than a BCS/NY6 bowl. PLUS 2008 - 2012 was a combined 15-46 W/L record. So without even looking up the schedules, I'm gonna guess:
A) Rice and Arkansas St were both in September, and USM was in November
B) UAB was in November
C) USM was a late season/November game, or some weird scheduling conflict (Midnight madness?)
D) Austin Peay was probably the home opener, and Porter fatigue had set in by the second game.
E) UTM was opener, Middle was very early, by the time we got to USM, it didn't look like we were gonna make a bowl.
I mean, I know a rivalry should trump time of year, weather, scheduling conflicts... I mean that's what makes it a rivalry, right? We just hadn't grown up into a decent football fan base yet. Maybe we are there now, maybe not.
I think rivalry as it pertains to us is more about the emotion against the other team, not the number of fans. I absolutely HATE Louisville. I really don't care about SMU. I would be at both games, no question. So that has nothing to do with numbers in the stands.
A - Mostly correct - though USM was October. At the same time, we had Louisville (a true rival) the game before (also October) and had almost twice the fans. On a Friday night.
B - Correct. The previous home game was East Carolina. We had almost twice the fans.
C - Nah. USM was in October and sandwiched between Tulsa and Houston which both had higher attendance.
D - Nah. Austin Peay was the 3rd game of the season. UAB was late season though.
E - Correct.
And you are correct - rivalries should trump time of year. But the poster to whom I was responding said that rivalry games like USM and UAB generated sales. That's just not true for sales. And I really don't think it's true about them being rivals. As you said, I don't have much emotion about them. No more so than SMU or Tulane. Less so than Cincy, Houston, UCF or Navy. Not even in the same league as Louisville.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2018 11:42 AM by Tiger87.)
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