Quote:The details revealed in the emails and texts, in conjunction with previously released information, suggest DOJ and FBI employees operated outside the chain of command, misled their bosses (and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court), and concealed evidence from congressional oversight committees. Let’s review two key questions the revelations raise.

1. How and why was Rosenstein kept in the dark?

Rosenstein was Ohr’s boss prior to his demotion, yet Rosenstein claims he knew nothing of Ohr’s involvement in the Russia investigation. Rosenstein declared to Congress in a letter reviewed by Solomon that he was “unaware of Ohr’s activities with Steele,” that Ohr was “not assigned” to the Russia investigation, and that Ohr “was not in the chain of command.” Rosenstein added, “Any involvement Mr. Ohr had in this matter was without my knowledge.”

Significantly, Rosenstein also testified that he did not know of Ohr’s connection to the Russian investigation until “sometime in the fall of 2017,” and said Ohr’s transfer to a different office was arranged “when we learned the relevant information.”

The FISA applications relied heavily on the Steele dossier, which Rosenstein apparently knew about. What he did not know, according to his testimony, is that his assistant, Ohr, was continuing to filter Steele’s intelligence to the FBI, even as the FBI declared in that final application that Steele was no longer a source. Ohr apparently did quite a bit of filtering from Steele to the FBI in order to keep Rosenstein in the dark.

2. Did Ohr keep Sally Yates in the dark too?

Rosenstein’s congressional testimony added another peculiarity to ponder. In discussing Ohr’s misconduct, he stressed as “important” the fact that Ohr is a “career employee” of the DOJ, and that when he arrived, Ohr was already part of the office. Rosenstein said he “never involved” Ohr with the Russia investigation or “assigned” him any role in it. So, that raises the question: Who from the DOJ did assign Ohr to the investigation?

The texts and emails between Steele and Ohr provide a suggestion. As Solomon reported, Ohr’s involvement with the Russia investigation dated to the beginning of Steele’s involvement. Steele wrote to Ohr on July 1, 2016: “There is something separate I wanted to discuss with you informally and separately. It concerns our favourite business tycoon!”

That note came a mere four days before Steele first met with an FBI attaché stationed in Rome to share the initial portions of his Trump dossier. Then on July 30, 2016 — the day before the FBI officially launched its investigation into the Trump campaign’s connections with Russia — Ohr met with Steele in person in Washington DC.

At that time, Ohr served under then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates, who remained in her post through Jan. 30, 2017, when Trump fired her for refusing to defend his travel ban. That means Ohr reported to Yates in November 2016, when he began filtering information from Steele to the FBI, including on Dec. 13, 2016, which was the date of the final report by Steele included in the dossier.

It also means that Yates oversaw Ohr’s work on Dec. 10, 2016, when he met with Steele’s Fusion GPS boss, Simpson, to gather more details of Fusion GPS’s research on Trump. Additionally, during the time Ohr served under Yates and acted as a conduit for Steele’s intel, the FBI interviewed him a total of seven times.

Significantly, Yates approved the January 2017 FISA application to spy on Page, which potentially included the intel Ohr relayed to the FBI from November until January, in contravention of the FBI’s termination of Steele as a source.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/08/15/bruc...s-spygate/

Oh what a tangled web we weave.....

I cut out significant parts of this story. Take the time to read it.

RWT: Who's John Solomon?

So Spygate has officially entered the White House. It’s only a matter of time before we find out that Obama was fully aware of the spying, was briefed frequently, and was passing info to the campaign of the smartest women to ever live.

Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

Doesn’t say much about Rothstein either way. Either he was complicit in the plot or he was too stupid to know a huge illegal spy mission was going on under his nose. The reality—there is zero chance he didn’t know they were still getting Steele info unless he flat out didn’t want to know. So—he’s either dirty or incompetent—neither is an impressive attribute.

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

I found it curious that within the last couple of weeks, His Orangeness commented to someone that he and Rosy were now big buds. My reaction was, dafuq is up with that?

This just goes to show that you gotta listen to his majesty's words carefully and sift through the chaff to find the wheat. He's forever dropping clues about what's coming.

(08-16-2018 08:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

Doesn’t say much about Rothstein either way. Either he was complicit in the plot or he was too stupid to know a huge illegal spy mission was going on under his nose. The reality—there is zero chance he didn’t know they were still getting Steele info unless he flat out didn’t want to know. So—he’s either dirty or incompetent—neither is an impressive attribute.

If I read his comments correctly, Rosy basically said he did not read the full FISA warrant before signing off on it, but relied on his underlyings that he was being provided accurate information. Personally, I don't think that's unresonable. Jesus, it's the FBI. If the boss can't trust his own team of lawyers to shoot straight with him, who can he trust? Which is basically where we are today with that organization.

We still don't know what data of Steele's was used in that last FISA warrant because virtually all of it was redacted. Clearly, if the judge was under the impression that the data was reliable, but it turns out that it actually wasn't because technically Steele was no longer a source but was still being used, a lot of shyte is going to begin to unravel. Might lead all the way to Bueller's doorstep.

(08-16-2018 09:27 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 08:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

Doesn’t say much about Rothstein either way. Either he was complicit in the plot or he was too stupid to know a huge illegal spy mission was going on under his nose. The reality—there is zero chance he didn’t know they were still getting Steele info unless he flat out didn’t want to know. So—he’s either dirty or incompetent—neither is an impressive attribute.

If I read his comments correctly, Rosy basically said he did not read the full FISA warrant before signing off on it, but relied on his underlyings that he was being provided accurate information. Personally, I don't think that's unresonable. Jesus, it's the FBI. If the boss can't trust his own team of lawyers to shoot straight with him, who can he trust? Which is basically where we are today with that organization.

We still don't know what data of Steele's was used in that last FISA warrant because virtually all of it was redacted. Clearly, if the judge was under the impression that the data was reliable, but it turns out that it actually wasn't because technically Steele was no longer a source but was still being used, a lot of shyte is going to begin to unravel. Might lead all the way to Bueller's doorstep.

The ultimate UNrecusal. Good ole Mueller investigates himself....

Now we may know why he interviewed for the Directorship and when he didn’t get it immediately (the next day no less) lobbied to be the Special Prosecutor.

I'm hoping for the ultimate irony. In order to cover his own azz, Mueller has to shift the focus of the investigation onto Spygate and the Hillary investigation. At the end of the day, James Comey, who plotted to get his buddy named SP, ends up being sent to prison by his buddy.

(08-16-2018 09:27 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 08:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

Doesn’t say much about Rothstein either way. Either he was complicit in the plot or he was too stupid to know a huge illegal spy mission was going on under his nose. The reality—there is zero chance he didn’t know they were still getting Steele info unless he flat out didn’t want to know. So—he’s either dirty or incompetent—neither is an impressive attribute.

If I read his comments correctly, Rosy basically said he did not read the full FISA warrant before signing off on it, but relied on his underlyings that he was being provided accurate information. Personally, I don't think that's unresonable. Jesus, it's the FBI. If the boss can't trust his own team of lawyers to shoot straight with him, who can he trust? Which is basically where we are today with that organization.

We still don't know what data of Steele's was used in that last FISA warrant because virtually all of it was redacted. Clearly, if the judge was under the impression that the data was reliable, but it turns out that it actually wasn't because technically Steele was no longer a source but was still being used, a lot of shyte is going to begin to unravel. Might lead all the way to Bueller's doorstep.

Sure—but supervisors set priorities and monitor some projects more closely than others. This was about spying on a major presidential candidate. That should have been a big red flag that this one needed to be carefully monitored and controlled. This wasn’t one you put auto-pilot and just sign the forms without reading them. Frankly I have trouble buying that a case that was to involve electronic monitoring of high level presidential campaign—-including people who were at this point getting courtesy classified NSA briefings—-was not really a significant priority in his office. That sounds pretty unlikely.

Sally Yates went to Trump and warned him about Flynn could have been compromised. She did not have to do that, but she pointed out that Flynn lied to Trump and Pence. Trump is also on a witch hunt himself. I rather keep Yates and some others that Trump keeps attacking. I would restore access to Brennan, Clapper and Hayden. Brennan was in the Situation Room when we finally nailed Osama bin Ladan to the wall.Without these guys knowledge of the terrorist groups? We make ourselves vulnerable to another 9/11 attack.

(08-16-2018 10:39 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 09:27 AM)TechRocks Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 08:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

Doesn’t say much about Rothstein either way. Either he was complicit in the plot or he was too stupid to know a huge illegal spy mission was going on under his nose. The reality—there is zero chance he didn’t know they were still getting Steele info unless he flat out didn’t want to know. So—he’s either dirty or incompetent—neither is an impressive attribute.

If I read his comments correctly, Rosy basically said he did not read the full FISA warrant before signing off on it, but relied on his underlyings that he was being provided accurate information. Personally, I don't think that's unresonable. Jesus, it's the FBI. If the boss can't trust his own team of lawyers to shoot straight with him, who can he trust? Which is basically where we are today with that organization.

We still don't know what data of Steele's was used in that last FISA warrant because virtually all of it was redacted. Clearly, if the judge was under the impression that the data was reliable, but it turns out that it actually wasn't because technically Steele was no longer a source but was still being used, a lot of shyte is going to begin to unravel. Might lead all the way to Bueller's doorstep.

Sure—but supervisors set priorities and monitor some projects more closely than others. This was about spying on a major presidential candidate. That should have been a big red flag that this one needed to be carefully monitored and controlled. This wasn’t one you put auto-pilot and just sign the forms without reading them. Frankly I have trouble buying that a case that was to involve electronic monitoring of high level presidential campaign—-including people who were at this point getting courtesy classified NSA briefings—-was not really a significant priority in his office. That sounds pretty unlikely.

Understood, and good points all, though I would add to that. The last FISA warrant, the one signed by Rosy, wasn't just dealing with a presidential campaign, Trump was president.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on the timing of that last FISA warrant.

(08-16-2018 07:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Sally Yates. She may be the linc Mueller has been looking for. Hahhahahhahhhaahh!

This is so corrupt that one wonders where was the righteous person? Why did no one say something? How did they get away with that chit in America?

It will be interesting if Rosenstein ends up being vindicated. That the plot was going on all around him and he did not know.

They were buying the fact that Clinton was going to win and didn't want to be ostracized when she did.