My wife and I are considering this seriously for our 21 year old daughter. of course lots depends on whether you can still get financial aid with this package. She has been to EMU with us for sporting events ever since she was 11.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/after-decad...jmc_pkt_ff

(08-14-2018 09:00 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  It's going to cause resentment among current students.

Who cares. Should EMU provide special counseling for their hurt feelings now? Life isn't fair.........college lesson 101.

(08-14-2018 09:40 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 09:00 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  It's going to cause resentment among current students.

Who cares. Should EMU provide special counseling for their hurt feelings now? Life isn't fair.........college lesson 101.

There are at least two problems with this. First, angry alumni do not donate or recommend the school to others. Second, like any workplace, disgruntled participants can sink the ship.

(08-14-2018 11:16 AM)masttg Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 09:40 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 09:00 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  It's going to cause resentment among current students.

Who cares. Should EMU provide special counseling for their hurt feelings now? Life isn't fair.........college lesson 101.

There are at least two problems with this. First, angry alumni do not donate or recommend the school to others. Second, like any workplace, disgruntled participants can sink the ship.

I'm an alum and suggest EMU to HS kid. Also, my son is an EMU junior so I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Your thought is not 100% accurate.

Also, why are we making the leaping assumption that currenr students will resent this? I've only seen positive repsonse thus far.

(08-14-2018 11:28 AM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 11:16 AM)masttg Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 09:40 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 09:00 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  It's going to cause resentment among current students.

Who cares. Should EMU provide special counseling for their hurt feelings now? Life isn't fair.........college lesson 101.

There are at least two problems with this. First, angry alumni do not donate or recommend the school to others. Second, like any workplace, disgruntled participants can sink the ship.

I'm an alum and suggest EMU to HS kid. Also, my son is an EMU junior so I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Your thought is not 100% accurate.

Sorry. My point wasn't clear. 'This' was referring to the idea that disgruntled students have no impact on EMU. My point was that students who graduate from EMU with bad feelings toward EMU tend to make 'poor' alumni. EMU has this problem in spades. We have low alumni giving rates and low alumni participation with campus events. I also was not suggesting that the 2-year tuition program be abandoned. I was supporting the idea that current EMU students need to be involved in the campus and learn to associate good things with their time at EMU.

Dear masttg,
Everyone will have different feelings about the school they attended. If, the majority (and they probably are) were commuters to Eastern, I'm sure most of them did not look at the social aspects of being on campus. I understand that, and yes it may color their overall feelings toward their alma mater.
I lived on campus and participated in just about every event that was held. It makes my experience at Eastern far more rewarding then most of the commuters. I also don't think that Western or Central alumni participation is that much better then Eastern's. I think Eastern is on the right track here, and will continue to make gains in the higher-ed community.

(08-14-2018 02:16 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear masttg,
Everyone will have different feelings about the school they attended. If, the majority (and they probably are) were commuters to Eastern, I'm sure most of them did not look at the social aspects of being on campus. I understand that, and yes it may color their overall feelings toward their alma mater.
I lived on campus and participated in just about every event that was held. It makes my experience at Eastern far more rewarding then most of the commuters. I also don't think that Western or Central alumni participation is that much better then Eastern's. I think Eastern is on the right track here, and will continue to make gains in the higher-ed community.

Good points, Ken.

Getting more undergrads on campus and a very good football or MBB team will do wonders for the school.

Win a FB or MBB championship and the university spirit will go through the roof.

(08-14-2018 02:41 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-14-2018 02:16 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear masttg,
Everyone will have different feelings about the school they attended. If, the majority (and they probably are) were commuters to Eastern, I'm sure most of them did not look at the social aspects of being on campus. I understand that, and yes it may color their overall feelings toward their alma mater.
I lived on campus and participated in just about every event that was held. It makes my experience at Eastern far more rewarding then most of the commuters. I also don't think that Western or Central alumni participation is that much better then Eastern's. I think Eastern is on the right track here, and will continue to make gains in the higher-ed community.

Good points, Ken.

Getting more undergrads on campus and a very good football or MBB team will do wonders for the school.

Win a FB or MBB championship and the university spirit will go through the roof.

Once again a great post by Ken, he is next to Steve the sage of this group.

Populating the EMU campus in my opinion has zero downside. I, like many others did indeed move off campus after my first two years at EMU. In retrospect, however, I think that was just a reflex action to what students did in those days. I made far more friends in the dorm and felt more a part of the EMU community when living on campus. Bob Welch was my suite-mate in Best Hall. The campus improvements since then have been to say the least remarkable. Truly I needed an excuse to buck the popular trend of moving off campus and this program would afford such.

Obviously anyone can nitpick any such initiative like this with statements like "current students will resent this" as no new endeavor is 100% perfect. Unfortunately those who resist any change to past operating practices are simply clueless to today's environment. Whining is not going to get EMU anywhere.

I've already seen some backlash on Twitter. Nobody likes being told that someone else gets a price break that they don't.

EMU has very little interest among it's alumni. There are risks with this plan.

(08-15-2018 09:11 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I've already seen some backlash on Twitter. Nobody likes being told that someone else gets a price break that they don't.

EMU has very little interest among it's alumni. There are risks with this plan.

Of course, some will like it and some won't.

Any well meaning strategic plan will be liked by those who were fortunate enough (timing is everything in life) to gain by it and not liked by those who were not.

"Cash for Clunkers" program was a case in point. Have a 'clunker' and buy a new car before the program is announced and get nothing. Hit on the right side and be a winner.

(08-15-2018 09:39 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 09:11 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I've already seen some backlash on Twitter. Nobody likes being told that someone else gets a price break that they don't.

EMU has very little interest among it's alumni. There are risks with this plan.

Of course, some will like it and some won't.

Any well meaning strategic plan will be liked by those who were fortunate enough (timing is everything in life) to gain by it and not liked by those who were not.

"Cash for Clunkers" program was a case in point. Have a 'clunker' and buy a new car before the program is announced and get nothing. Hit on the right side and be a winner.

There are qualifiers to this plan. You must have a certain HS GPA, a minimum ACT score and maintain a 3.0 EMU GPA while living on campus. I would not be against offering scholarships to these "twitter grumblers" provided they meet the aforementioned criteria. My guess is few would.