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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
Pretty sure most states have reached or passed their saturation point for FBS teams. You could make a case for one more in GA and that is about it from what I see.

Texas has 12 FBS teams cmon....closest state is CAL at 7....
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-17-2018 01:28 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Pretty sure most states have reached or passed their saturation point for FBS teams. You could make a case for one more in GA and that is about it from what I see.

Texas has 12 FBS teams cmon....closest state is CAL at 7....

I think Missouri is a real untapped state for FBS. We really need to be keeping Missouri St on the line and encouraging them to invest in facilities should we need to add at sometime in the distant future.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-17-2018 01:52 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote:  
(09-17-2018 01:28 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Pretty sure most states have reached or passed their saturation point for FBS teams. You could make a case for one more in GA and that is about it from what I see.

Texas has 12 FBS teams cmon....closest state is CAL at 7....

I think Missouri is a real untapped state for FBS. We really need to be keeping Missouri St on the line and encouraging them to invest in facilities should we need to add at sometime in the distant future.

Cant believe I forgot about them as they were my to choice to add. Not a lot of talent in the state but only on FBS teams to contend with is nice.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
I get some of the Missouri St stuff, but guys, they’ve had two home games one was in excess of 2k people, the other was 7k+, this is in a stadium that holds 17,500 people. They don’t have the football support for FBS, and I’m not sure SBC teams would bring in many more people, except the game against stAte.

At least when Coastal came up, they were selling out their 10,000 seat stadium.
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(09-17-2018 02:26 PM)Usajags Wrote:  I get some of the Missouri St stuff, but guys, they’ve had two home games one was in excess of 2k people, the other was 7k+, this is in a stadium that holds 17,500 people. They don’t have the football support for FBS, and I’m not sure SBC teams would bring in many more people, except the game against stAte.

At least when Coastal came up, they were selling out their 10,000 seat stadium.

I believe if they made the effort to be a decent program they could be. IIRC they fancy themselves a basketball school.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-16-2018 11:23 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  From an Academic standpoint the Belt has equally or more impressive resume with research and medical schools in USA, GaSt, GaSo and TxSt and then top public regional liberal arts in AppState and Troy. Cusa has Charlotte, UAB, UTSA and FlAtlantic as strong academic schools but otherwise there is no difference between the belt and cusa.

Dude, seriously? Academic smack?

USNWR Nationally Ranked
CUSA
T16 Rice
T157 UAB
T187 FIU
T194 Charlotte
T215 ODU

Sunbelt
T187 GSU

Carnegie R1
CUSA
UAB, FIU, Rice, UNT

Sunbelt
GSU, UTA

Med Schools
CUSA
FAU, FIU, UAB, UNT

Sunbelt
USA

Only two of our schools are regional and they are both top 50 regional schools. For the umpteen time FIU Law has the #1 bar pass rate. Y'all are kicking ass in football this season but superior academics? The data does not support your statement.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
UNT doesn't have a medical school.

The University of North Texas University System has a medical school in Ft Worth.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
This is one weird catch-all thread.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(09-16-2018 11:23 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  From an Academic standpoint the Belt has equally or more impressive resume with research and medical schools in USA, GaSt, GaSo and TxSt and then top public regional liberal arts in AppState and Troy. Cusa has Charlotte, UAB, UTSA and FlAtlantic as strong academic schools but otherwise there is no difference between the belt and cusa.

Dude, seriously? Academic smack?

USNWR Nationally Ranked
CUSA
T16 Rice
T157 UAB
T187 FIU
T194 Charlotte
T215 ODU

Sunbelt
T187 GSU

Carnegie R1
CUSA
UAB, FIU, Rice, UNT

Sunbelt
GSU, UTA

Med Schools
CUSA
FAU, FIU, UAB, UNT

Sunbelt
USA

Only two of our schools are regional and they are both top 50 regional schools. For the umpteen time FIU Law has the #1 bar pass rate. Y'all are kicking ass in football this season but superior academics? The data does not support your statement.

You know a thread has jumped the shark when academics is mentioned. Not one academic classification or rating has ever mattered on a football field. Not one person on the planet that does not have direct ties to any of our schools will ever confuse us with Harvard and will probably at most raise an eyebrow if there perception of a school like FIU is slightly higher than what you thought...like I did.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-18-2018 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(09-16-2018 11:23 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  From an Academic standpoint the Belt has equally or more impressive resume with research and medical schools in USA, GaSt, GaSo and TxSt and then top public regional liberal arts in AppState and Troy. Cusa has Charlotte, UAB, UTSA and FlAtlantic as strong academic schools but otherwise there is no difference between the belt and cusa.

Dude, seriously? Academic smack?

USNWR Nationally Ranked
CUSA
T16 Rice
T157 UAB
T187 FIU
T194 Charlotte
T215 ODU

Sunbelt
T187 GSU

Carnegie R1
CUSA
UAB, FIU, Rice, UNT

Sunbelt
GSU, UTA

Med Schools
CUSA
FAU, FIU, UAB, UNT

Sunbelt
USA

Only two of our schools are regional and they are both top 50 regional schools. For the umpteen time FIU Law has the #1 bar pass rate. Y'all are kicking ass in football this season but superior academics? The data does not support your statement.

You know a thread has jumped the shark when academics is mentioned. Not one academic classification or rating has ever mattered on a football field. Not one person on the planet that does not have direct ties to any of our schools will ever confuse us with Harvard and will probably at most raise an eyebrow if there perception of a school like FIU is slightly higher than what you thought...like I did.
The reason schools pour millions into FBS is as a marketing.g device for their academic side.

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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-18-2018 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(09-16-2018 11:23 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  From an Academic standpoint the Belt has equally or more impressive resume with research and medical schools in USA, GaSt, GaSo and TxSt and then top public regional liberal arts in AppState and Troy. Cusa has Charlotte, UAB, UTSA and FlAtlantic as strong academic schools but otherwise there is no difference between the belt and cusa.

Dude, seriously? Academic smack?

USNWR Nationally Ranked
CUSA
T16 Rice
T157 UAB
T187 FIU
T194 Charlotte
T215 ODU

Sunbelt
T187 GSU

Carnegie R1
CUSA
UAB, FIU, Rice, UNT

Sunbelt
GSU, UTA

Med Schools
CUSA
FAU, FIU, UAB, UNT

Sunbelt
USA

Only two of our schools are regional and they are both top 50 regional schools. For the umpteen time FIU Law has the #1 bar pass rate. Y'all are kicking ass in football this season but superior academics? The data does not support your statement.

You know a thread has jumped the shark when academics is mentioned. Not one academic classification or rating has ever mattered on a football field. Not one person on the planet that does not have direct ties to any of our schools will ever confuse us with Harvard and will probably at most raise an eyebrow if there perception of a school like FIU is slightly higher than what you thought...like I did.

For reasons unknown to me a Appy State fan went down the academics road on this thread. My contribution was to correct his misperceptions, not to impress you however I am happy that we are able to get a raised eyebrow from you.
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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-18-2018 03:14 PM)panama Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  
(09-17-2018 02:31 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote:  
(09-16-2018 11:23 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  From an Academic standpoint the Belt has equally or more impressive resume with research and medical schools in USA, GaSt, GaSo and TxSt and then top public regional liberal arts in AppState and Troy. Cusa has Charlotte, UAB, UTSA and FlAtlantic as strong academic schools but otherwise there is no difference between the belt and cusa.

Dude, seriously? Academic smack?

USNWR Nationally Ranked
CUSA
T16 Rice
T157 UAB
T187 FIU
T194 Charlotte
T215 ODU

Sunbelt
T187 GSU

Carnegie R1
CUSA
UAB, FIU, Rice, UNT

Sunbelt
GSU, UTA

Med Schools
CUSA
FAU, FIU, UAB, UNT

Sunbelt
USA

Only two of our schools are regional and they are both top 50 regional schools. For the umpteen time FIU Law has the #1 bar pass rate. Y'all are kicking ass in football this season but superior academics? The data does not support your statement.

You know a thread has jumped the shark when academics is mentioned. Not one academic classification or rating has ever mattered on a football field. Not one person on the planet that does not have direct ties to any of our schools will ever confuse us with Harvard and will probably at most raise an eyebrow if there perception of a school like FIU is slightly higher than what you thought...like I did.
The reason schools pour millions into FBS is as a marketing.g device for their academic side.

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RE: OT: UTRGV Football Feasibilty Study
(09-18-2018 12:43 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  You know a thread has jumped the shark when academics is mentioned. Not one academic classification or rating has ever mattered on a football field. Not one person on the planet that does not have direct ties to any of our schools will ever confuse us with Harvard and will probably at most raise an eyebrow if there perception of a school like FIU is slightly higher than what you thought...like I did.

And let's be real...your average person probably knows the Ivy League is an elite conference academically and probably knows the Big Ten has higher academic ratings than the SEC and Pac-12, but hardly anyone is going to know who is regarded better between the CUSA and Sun Belt. Beyond the very top tier the difference in everything else is meaningless. I don't really care that much which institution gets more in grants to study multicultural dance theory and other esoteric research that will never be read by anyone, and it doesn't really matter.

Higher Ed is undergoing a gradual transformation and the stuff that propels you higher in the ratings won't necessarily help an institution thrive in the future.
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All this is the reason that Boise St will never be in the PAC12. They are a JUCO for goodness sakes. They don’t exactly meet he academic standards of Stanford.
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Btw...thread jumped the shark when it stopped being about UTRGV football feasibility.

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(09-21-2018 07:29 AM)panama Wrote:  Btw...thread jumped the shark when it stopped being about UTRGV football feasibility.

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