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Film Noir Discussion Thread
I love watching old film noir movies. So, if you enjoy them too, here is a thread to discuss noir films and noir topics. Eddie Muller returns to host TCM's Noir Alley on Saturday nights beginning on Sept. 1.

Some of my favorites are "the Big Sleep", "Conflict", "Out of the Past", "the Maltese Falcon", "Murder, My Sweet", and "Double Indemnity".
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Don't know if they apply to your film noir but I love old movies like The Magnificent Ambersons, The Big Sleep, Touch of Evil, The Third man, Seventh Seal. Does Blood Simple and Blue Velvet count?[/align]
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Does China Town/The Two Jakes count? I loved those and I would totally get them on BR versus my dvd copies.
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(08-07-2018 10:09 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Don't know if they apply to your film noir but I love old movies like The Magnificent Ambersons, The Big Sleep, Touch of Evil, The Third man, Seventh Seal. Does Blood Simple and Blue Velvet count?[/align]

All excellent movies. The Magnificent Ambersons would not by some peoples standards, mostly because of it's subject and date, but I think it has enough qualities to qualify. Blue Velvet and Blood Simple would fall into the neo-noir category, which still counts. The Seventh Seal won't count as Noir, but it is a great film.

Since you like those movies, you should check out Laura, The Set Up, and Double Indemnity. If you like to read, you should grab any Raymond Chandler novel. The Big Sleep , and The High Window are two of my favorites.

When I see TCM or another channel is playing a good noir or other classic movie, I'll be sure to post it here.
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(08-07-2018 10:49 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Does China Town/The Two Jakes count? I loved those and I would totally get them on BR versus my dvd copies.

Both are neo-noir. I have Chinatown on Blu Ray, and both in a double set DVD. I have never seen The Two Jakes available in Blu Ray. If you lean towards the neo-noir, you should watch Poodle Springs (1998), with James Caan. It is the last story of Raymond Chandler's private eye Philip Marlowe from the Big Sleep. Poodle Springs is available on DVD at Ebay ,or you can watch it on Youtube. Also, Twilight (1998) staring Paul Newman might also interest you.
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Laura is a personal favorite of mine. As far as books are concerned you get a little of the same flavor from Elmore Leonard, Ray Chandler, Walter Mosley.
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(08-08-2018 03:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Laura is a personal favorite of mine. As far as books are concerned you get a little of the same flavor from Elmore Leonard, Ray Chandler, Walter Mosley.

If you like Laura, you should watch Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950). The film pairs Gene Tierney and Dana Andrews again, and Otto Preminger also directs. Not as good as Laura, but very enjoyable.

Chandler is my favorite writer. Mosley is a fine writer. Devil in a Blue Dress was a good movie. I've never read any of Leonard's work. I'll have to give him a try. You might enjoy some of Earl Stanley Gardner's books.
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(08-08-2018 04:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 03:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Laura is a personal favorite of mine. As far as books are concerned you get a little of the same flavor from Elmore Leonard, Ray Chandler, Walter Mosley.

If you like Laura, you should watch Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950). The film pairs Gene Tierney and Dana Andrews again, and Otto Preminger also directs. Not as good as Laura, but very enjoyable.

Chandler is my favorite writer. Mosley is a fine writer. Devil in a Blue Dress was a good movie. I've never read any of Leonard's work. I'll have to give him a try. You might enjoy some of Earl Stanley Gardner's books.

I'll check it out.

Yeah, go ahead and give Leonard a read. He's my favorite author. Not noir strictly. His stories generally stake place between the 1970s to early 2000s. He puts the story in the hands of the criminals, which is a classic noir take. He wrote the books that would become the movies Jackie Brown, Get Shorty, Out of Sight.
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(08-08-2018 08:25 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 04:57 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 03:58 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Laura is a personal favorite of mine. As far as books are concerned you get a little of the same flavor from Elmore Leonard, Ray Chandler, Walter Mosley.

If you like Laura, you should watch Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950). The film pairs Gene Tierney and Dana Andrews again, and Otto Preminger also directs. Not as good as Laura, but very enjoyable.

Chandler is my favorite writer. Mosley is a fine writer. Devil in a Blue Dress was a good movie. I've never read any of Leonard's work. I'll have to give him a try. You might enjoy some of Earl Stanley Gardner's books.

I'll check it out.

Yeah, go ahead and give Leonard a read. He's my favorite author. Not noir strictly. His stories generally stake place between the 1970s to early 2000s. He puts the story in the hands of the criminals, which is a classic noir take. He wrote the books that would become the movies Jackie Brown, Get Shorty, Out of Sight.

Thanks. I'll stop by the library tomorrow an see what they have.
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(08-07-2018 06:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Some of my favorites are "the Big Sleep", "Conflict", "Out of the Past", "the Maltese Falcon", "Murder, My Sweet", and "Double Indemnity".

These are all great films.

As an aside, I love watching some of these old black and white classics re-mastered for blu ray. It really makes the shades and shadows pop. I recently bought "Casablanca" on blu ray and showed to my kids, they loved it and it looked amazing.
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“Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow” (2004) is a sci-fi movie in the film noir style. It’s not in the “Maltese Falcon” category but pretty good on its own.
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Would Memento or Swimming Pool count?
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(08-10-2018 07:07 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  
(08-07-2018 06:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Some of my favorites are "the Big Sleep", "Conflict", "Out of the Past", "the Maltese Falcon", "Murder, My Sweet", and "Double Indemnity".

These are all great films.

As an aside, I love watching some of these old black and white classics re-mastered for blu ray. It really makes the shades and shadows pop. I recently bought "Casablanca" on blu ray and showed to my kids, they loved it and it looked amazing.

Casablanca is the greatest film that wasn't suppose to be great. It was written for Hedy Lamarr after her success in Algiers with Charles Boyer. Warner Brothers thought it would be easy money. That is why the film is set in the neighboring French Territory of Morocco. Ingrid Bergman was brought in after Lamarr was not loaned out to Warner Brothers. Bogart was also not supposed to be in the film. That part, like Sam Spade in the Maltese Falcon, was offered to George Raft, but Raft passed on playing both. Since you like Casablanca, you should watch Algiers. Personally, I like Lamarr more then Bergman.

In an interesting side note, Charles Boyer's Algiers character Pepe, was the inspiration for Pepe La Pew. That's why he is always wanting to take the cat back to the Casbah.

I like Bru Ray versions too. They look great and generally have extra historical commentary too.
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(08-10-2018 09:04 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Would Memento or Swimming Pool count?

Memento would count. I thought it was clever and well done. I have not seen the Swimming Pool.
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(08-10-2018 09:44 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:04 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Would Memento or Swimming Pool count?

Memento would count. I thought it was clever and well done. I have not seen the Swimming Pool.

The only thing that bugs me about Memento is I believe that if t he story played out chronologically on screen it wouldn't have been as interesting. That said, as is, the cinematography choice and the unraveling of the story made it a very cool movie.
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Netflix is showing the re-edited version of "Touch of Evil". The re-edit was done in 1998 to meet Orson Welles' notes.
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(08-14-2018 03:49 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  Netflix is showing the re-edited version of "Touch of Evil". The re-edit was done in 1998 to meet Orson Welles' notes.

Another great film. I'll add it to my queue. Thanks.
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Where the Sidewalk Ends is on TCM right now. A great film staring much of the cast from Laura.
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Citizen Kane will air tomorrow Monday Aug 27th at 3:30pm central time on TCM. One of the greatest films ever. If you have not seen it, you may want to set your DVR.
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Back when I was younger (20s and 30s) I used to watch a lot of 'classic' movies. I honestly forgot about most of them until this thread because they don't get much airplay. Don't know if the vcr in the basement still works or not but I have still have quite a few old tapes down there. Orson Welles and Joseph Cotten put out quite a few films that I liked (Citizen Kane, Third Man, Shadow of a Doubt). Found 39 Steps, M, Maltese Falcon, Treasure of the Sierra Madre, Rebecca, Sullivan's Travels, and a few more.

My wife hated watching most (all?) of those with me.
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