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“The Scar” (1949) - about a gangster just released from prison, convinced a bunch of his friends to go with him on a casino heist. The heist went wrong, his friends were caught, he escaped. He hides out in a town, lays low, takes a normal job. There is a doctor in this town that everybody mistakes him as with the only difference is that the doctor has a scar on his face. He comes up with an elaborate plan to kill the doctor and take his identity.

I did not really care for this movie; the plot was very predictable, the characters were mostly forgettable and I felt like the movie was more of a choar to watch than it being enjoyable. It did have 1 very delicious twist of irony which you will get at the very end if you care to actually see the whole thing through. 3/10
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(01-25-2020 05:13 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  “The Scar” (1949) - about a gangster just released from prison, convinced a bunch of his friends to go with him on a casino heist. The heist went wrong, his friends were caught, he escaped. He hides out in a town, lays low, takes a normal job. There is a doctor in this town that everybody mistakes him as with the only difference is that the doctor has a scar on his face. He comes up with an elaborate plan to kill the doctor and take his identity.

I did not really care for this movie; the plot was very predictable, the characters were mostly forgettable and I felt like the movie was more of a choar to watch than it being enjoyable. It did have 1 very delicious twist of irony which you will get at the very end if you care to actually see the whole thing through. 3/10

Yeah, there aren't a lot of Academy Award winning Noir's out there for free. I haven't seen "the Scar", but if I run across it, I'll check it out. Thanks for posting this summary.
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Night of the Ghuols (1959) - pointless movie, it could not make up it’s mind if it wanted to be a film noir or horror. You basically have 2 movies that seemed spliced together. 1) A ghoul has murdered some people and the police was sent to investigate 2) a conman clarevoyant that tricks desperate, older people into thinking he can raise the dead. Some how they are able to mesh these 2 elements together, I was actually confused what this movie was all about and really the movie could have been better if they focused on the conman aspect. One slightly humorous thing stood out was that the conman called himself “Dr. Acula”. If you are a fan of the tv show “Scrubs” you will recognize the name when JD fantasizes. Easily the worst noir movie I saw to date 1/10.
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Mr. Wong: Doomed to die (1940) - shipping tycoon Mr. Wentworth is in grief over the loss of his ship “The Wentworth castle” and the 400 passengers on board. Rival bussinesss men come to offer condolences when Mr. Wentworth is mysteriously murdered. The son of the rival bussiness man was the prime suspect and taken in custody. Private Investigater Mr. Wong (Charlie Chan) was hired to find the real murderer.

This is my first movie with Charlie Chan and he made a good impression on me. His character is always calm, collective, intelligent, he carries around an umbrella as sort of a shtick, which is unique. One of things I liked about the movie is that it did not focus too much on his Chinese heritage, it had just the right amount without being over done. The movie itself kept you guessing who done it right until the end. I enjoyed the movie and would rate it about the same as another detective movie “Sherlock Holmes faces death”. 8/10
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(01-20-2020 10:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(01-19-2020 08:26 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(10-01-2018 08:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-29-2018 09:13 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  
(09-29-2018 09:11 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  The Big Sleep will be on today at 11am central on TCM. Bogart and Bacall at their finest. Martha Vickers also gives a great performance.

Fun Fact: Sonia Darrin in the center of the photo is that last living cast member.

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With plenty of good football on TV, you might want to set your DVR. The Big Sleep is must see Noir.

Saw that today at noon. Was killing time before my Bearcats game. Forgot about the risque sexual tension when they were talking about gambling on horses. Bacall was what about 22 and Bogart mid 40s when this came out? Good show.

You should see them together in "To Have and Have Not" from 1944, which was Bacall's first film. Bacall was only 19 when they filmed the movie. Bogart went on to leave his wife and married Bacall in 1945.

I've been trying to find To Have and Have Not. I've seen about the first half. 19 year old Bacall was smoking.

It comes on TCM at least once every three months. When I see it on their monthly schedule, I'll be sure to post it here. The film is also an easy purchase on ebay.

Since you are a Bacall fan, you should watch "Out of the Past". Jane Greer may be the ultimate femme fatale. Certainly one of my personal favorites.

So I finally saw To Have and Have Not. Overall good with classic lines like Bacall saying, "You just put your lips together and blow." This movie borrowed a lot of themes and plot lines from Casablanca. The ending was rushed and a little thin, as if the director said, "Okay boys, this is the last day of filming. Time to wrap it up." The movie was good, I just expected better. Not in the same class with The Big Sleep, but worth a look, if for no other reason than the dialogue between 20 year old Bacall and Bogart.
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(04-29-2020 11:50 AM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(01-20-2020 10:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(01-19-2020 08:26 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  
(10-01-2018 08:45 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(09-29-2018 09:13 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Saw that today at noon. Was killing time before my Bearcats game. Forgot about the risque sexual tension when they were talking about gambling on horses. Bacall was what about 22 and Bogart mid 40s when this came out? Good show.

You should see them together in "To Have and Have Not" from 1944, which was Bacall's first film. Bacall was only 19 when they filmed the movie. Bogart went on to leave his wife and married Bacall in 1945.

I've been trying to find To Have and Have Not. I've seen about the first half. 19 year old Bacall was smoking.

It comes on TCM at least once every three months. When I see it on their monthly schedule, I'll be sure to post it here. The film is also an easy purchase on ebay.

Since you are a Bacall fan, you should watch "Out of the Past". Jane Greer may be the ultimate femme fatale. Certainly one of my personal favorites.

So I finally saw To Have and Have Not. Overall good with classic lines like Bacall saying, "You just put your lips together and blow." This movie borrowed a lot of themes and plot lines from Casablanca. The ending was rushed and a little thin, as if the director said, "Okay boys, this is the last day of filming. Time to wrap it up." The movie was good, I just expected better. Not in the same class with The Big Sleep, but worth a look, if for no other reason than the dialogue between 20 year old Bacall and Bogart.

Glad you liked it. I agree about the ending, but most old films had those abrupt endings, so I'm used to it. Funny thing about Casablanca, it was not supposed to have Bogart or Bergman in the leads. The film was written for Hedy Lamar after her big American film debut in Algiers, but her was not available. And, George raft was originally offered the role of Rick Blaine, but turned it down.
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Another Bogart film, In a Lonely Place, 1950.
Bogart as down and out screenwriter "Dix" Steele, is suspected of murder. Gloria Grahame is the love interest who wants to believe in him. Bogart doesn't play his typical short spoken tough guy with a warm soft spot hidden away somewhere. Instead you find a portrait of an antihero who is beginning to unravel. Several driving scenes at night add to the mood of the film. A solid performance from beginning to end.

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(06-28-2020 08:54 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  Another Bogart film, In a Lonely Place, 1950.
Bogart as down and out screenwriter "Dix" Steele, is suspected of murder. Gloria Grahame is the love interest who wants to believe in him. Bogart doesn't play his typical short spoken tough guy with a warm soft spot hidden away somewhere. Instead you find a portrait of an antihero who is beginning to unravel. Several driving scenes at night add to the mood of the film. A solid performance from beginning to end.

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I love "In a Lonely Place". Like many others, I think it is Bogart's best role. My favorite scenes are those from "Paul's" restaurant. I have it listed in Post #29 among my favorite Noirs of all time. I liked the film so much, I created a painting of Bogart based on the closing scene where he is standing at the door of Grahame's apartment.

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(06-29-2020 04:10 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(06-28-2020 08:54 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  Another Bogart film, In a Lonely Place, 1950.
Bogart as down and out screenwriter "Dix" Steele, is suspected of murder. Gloria Grahame is the love interest who wants to believe in him. Bogart doesn't play his typical short spoken tough guy with a warm soft spot hidden away somewhere. Instead you find a portrait of an antihero who is beginning to unravel. Several driving scenes at night add to the mood of the film. A solid performance from beginning to end.

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I love "In a Lonely Place". Like many others, I think it is Bogart's best role. My favorite scenes are those from "Paul's" restaurant. I have it listed in Post #29 among my favorite Noirs of all time. I liked the film so much, I created a painting of Bogart based on the closing scene where he is standing at the door of Grahame's apartment.

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Thanks for the input. Maybe I need to go back and read the old posts!
I also thought it was interesting the type of character Bogart was playing considering this was filmed in just the second year of his own production company.
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