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(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.
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(08-13-2018 08:57 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.

So GreyOwl72 (and anyone else who can answer), how much gray did Rice actually implement in the football uniforms back in the day? My first experience is during the Bert Emmanuel era of uniforms (Blue helmet with silver/gray wings, Blue jersey, and silver/gray pants).

As an aside, I wouldn't mind the all blue look if we brought these uniforms back in some form...especially the gray stripe on the helmet:

[Image: rawImage.jpg]
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As I recall, the all blue look "back in the day" was pretty basic. White, not gray, numerals on the jerseys and helmets. I don't even think there was a logo on the helmet. Think Penn State style. I don't think there was any gray at all.
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(08-13-2018 09:24 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 08:57 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.

So GreyOwl72 (and anyone else who can answer), how much gray did Rice actually implement in the football uniforms back in the day? My first experience is during the Bert Emmanuel era of uniforms (Blue helmet with silver/gray wings, Blue jersey, and silver/gray pants).

As an aside, I wouldn't mind the all blue look if we brought these uniforms back in some form...especially the gray stripe on the helmet:

[Image: rawImage.jpg]

This is a what could’ve been photo in so many ways haha.
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(08-13-2018 09:24 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 08:57 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.

So GreyOwl72 (and anyone else who can answer), how much gray did Rice actually implement in the football uniforms back in the day? My first experience is during the Bert Emmanuel era of uniforms (Blue helmet with silver/gray wings, Blue jersey, and silver/gray pants).

As an aside, I wouldn't mind the all blue look if we brought these uniforms back in some form...especially the gray stripe on the helmet:

[Image: rawImage.jpg]

Those are perfect in every way to me. Love those! The stripes on the pants and the single stripe on the helmet is just right.

I also remember the Goldsmith era uniform as the only one with gray/silver pants. Those were very sharp uniforms. Before that, we only wore white or blue pants, but mostly always white. I've never been a fan of the white pants. The solid blue looks intimidating if you ask me. It's a tough/hard look. It matches the new attitude.
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(08-13-2018 09:59 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 09:50 AM)Antarius Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 09:42 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I'm surprised a single coach could have that much influence. I would have thought that our athletic apparel partner and Public Affairs office (which oversees our branding) would pretty much rule that roost.

Until relatively recently, each team had rights to do whatever they wanted. We had some 8 different logos on our various jersey. Only recently did the AD and team consolidate to standardized branding.

So it is possible that someone wielded large amounts of influence in a sphere that they likely knew little about. Each sport was its own little branding fiefdom.

Now, the question is who arrived in 2007, departed in 2018 and was an assistant coach? 05-mafia

Patterson

Also interesting comparing the staff titles from last year to this year. We’ve added 2 assistant S&C coaches. We now have a “NFL liaison”. We have a director of football recruiting in addition to a recruiting coordinator. We have a football chief of staff.

Not to scare anyone but we don’t have any “quality control” coaches anymore!

Before cr11 posted above the answer to my Q, I pulled the staff lists from 2007 and 2017. Interesting that it has almost doubled in size.

Re: Patterson - Wish he had spent more time on trying to not be a bottom tier defense than worry about the color of uniforms.

Wonder where our "quality control" coaches went. Did they go back to Takata, BP/Transocean or Kobe Steel?
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RE: Uniforms
(08-13-2018 09:24 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 08:57 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.

So GreyOwl72 (and anyone else who can answer), how much gray did Rice actually implement in the football uniforms back in the day? My first experience is during the Bert Emmanuel era of uniforms (Blue helmet with silver/gray wings, Blue jersey, and silver/gray pants).

As an aside, I wouldn't mind the all blue look if we brought these uniforms back in some form...especially the gray stripe on the helmet:

[Image: rawImage.jpg]

Those were the throwback uniforms Rice wore against UTSA in 2012 for the Centennial Homecoming Game. The helmets had the players' numbers on the side of the helmet. I always thought they looked pretty sharp.
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(Yesterday 04:20 PM)Pimpa Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 09:24 PM)Pan95 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 08:57 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:24 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(08-13-2018 11:12 AM)Pan95 Wrote:  So any conception of gray or grey is indelibly attached to Confederate Gray? As a person of color, I am completely baffled by this logic. We all know what the Rice preferred color scheme says: Confederate gray with a tinge of lavender. I also know that William M. Rice was not partial to POC with regard to the charter. But the man is dead, therefore, let his bigotry rot in the grave with him. The color does not have to be forever associated with the Confederacy. If Rice University circa 2018 feels that strongly about this issue, then we need to remove gray as our secondary color and pick a secondary color that we will actually use. Otherwise, get some dang gray pants and utilize a color is that is actually a part of our color scheme; as opposed to half of college football today.

Also, I am not a fan of the full re-brand. I like the Owls, I dislike the "Rice" in motion as well as the numbers...but it's a non-issue.

Completely agree about the gray, but I do love the solid blue that we wear at home. It's a tradition we should stick with consistently. Definitely incorporate some gray beyond just the facemask.

I do like the solid blue home unis. They've been around a long time and I think it's a "Rice" look, even to other people.
First time I ever saw a Rice game in 1957, we were in all blue. I may be wrong, but I can't think of too many other teams with that look.

So GreyOwl72 (and anyone else who can answer), how much gray did Rice actually implement in the football uniforms back in the day? My first experience is during the Bert Emmanuel era of uniforms (Blue helmet with silver/gray wings, Blue jersey, and silver/gray pants).

As an aside, I wouldn't mind the all blue look if we brought these uniforms back in some form...especially the gray stripe on the helmet:

[Image: rawImage.jpg]

Those were the throwback uniforms Rice wore against UTSA in 2012 for the Centennial Homecoming Game. The helmets had the players' numbers on the side of the helmet. I always thought they looked pretty sharp.

Indeed. We ended up wearing the pants up until 2014. And we wore the helmet on the road against Tulsa in 2012 (heartbreaking loss). To my knowledge, we never wore the jersey again.
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