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(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:01 AM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 08:45 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 05:29 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Maybe we should get a banner like Vcu did. Lol

gotta laugh at this one, what is this 'WE' stuff - you wage a one man war against everything ODU, not just Jones – smh
we does not include your multiple different login names either

It’s always interesting how one of the other logins chimes in with support. The effort to change the writing style isn’t fooling anyone.

Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

its very easy to use 2 or 3 different login from the same location.

RRM thoughtful and non-combative - good one.

(07-31-2018 12:59 PM)odufansam Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:41 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  You can't honestly believe that BT being drunk was the only hinderance to the program. Marquel Delancey was one of our best players. Think about that very hard. Marquel Delancey. He was awful. He was one of the best players on that roster. That didn't happen overnight. That wasn't because BT had let go of the wheel for just one season. The demise of ODU basketball is well documented on this board at that time.

Historical success really doesn't mean much to players. They start following college basketball probably when they're Sophomores or Juniors enough to even know that ODU exists (unless they grew up in Hampton Roads). We don't stand out relative to Middle Tennessee State who we've had much more success over the last three decades--but all that matters to recruits is what they've accomplished the last decade. At the time that JJ started here, we didn't really stand out relative to Rice. Both programs were pretty dang bad.

DeLancey was our best player? Not even close. The year JJ took over he had Keenan Palmore, Aaron Bacote, Richard Ross, Ambrose Moseley, Denzel Taylor, and Dmitri Batten. I could go the year before that with most of those guys, and throw in Deshawn Painter. The year before that was Chris Cooper, Kent Bazemore, and Trian Illiadis. DeLancey was never one of our best players.

I'm not sure if you're trolling here since you clearly didn't respond to anything I actually wrote or not. If you're not trolling and it's just a reading comprehension issue, I'll clarify...

I never said Delancey was our best player. I said he was ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS. A two year starter is one of your best players. Sorry. That's a fact. If you don't have a better PG on your roster than Delancey, you're in trouble. BT's last couple of rosters were garbage. The cupboard was left bare. There's no valid argument to the contrary.

(07-31-2018 01:31 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:59 PM)odufansam Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:41 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  You can't honestly believe that BT being drunk was the only hinderance to the program. Marquel Delancey was one of our best players. Think about that very hard. Marquel Delancey. He was awful. He was one of the best players on that roster. That didn't happen overnight. That wasn't because BT had let go of the wheel for just one season. The demise of ODU basketball is well documented on this board at that time.

Historical success really doesn't mean much to players. They start following college basketball probably when they're Sophomores or Juniors enough to even know that ODU exists (unless they grew up in Hampton Roads). We don't stand out relative to Middle Tennessee State who we've had much more success over the last three decades--but all that matters to recruits is what they've accomplished the last decade. At the time that JJ started here, we didn't really stand out relative to Rice. Both programs were pretty dang bad.

DeLancey was our best player? Not even close. The year JJ took over he had Keenan Palmore, Aaron Bacote, Richard Ross, Ambrose Moseley, Denzel Taylor, and Dmitri Batten. I could go the year before that with most of those guys, and throw in Deshawn Painter. The year before that was Chris Cooper, Kent Bazemore, and Trian Illiadis. DeLancey was never one of our best players.

I'm not sure if you're trolling here since you clearly didn't respond to anything I actually wrote or not. If you're not trolling and it's just a reading comprehension issue, I'll clarify...

I never said Delancey was our best player. I said he was ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS. A two year starter is one of your best players. Sorry. That's a fact. If you don't have a better PG on your roster than Delancey, you're in trouble. BT's last couple of rosters were garbage. The cupboard was left bare. There's no valid argument to the contrary.

Your position is insane. You completely ignore that there is a reason that Rice has sucked for decades and we have not and it has very little to do with how much historical perspective a recruit has, and even less to do with BT's drinking problem.

The historical gap between the programs is the symptom not the disease.

Probably not correct (or appropriate) to call DeLancey awful. You're entitled to your opinion but he was an ok player and a solid young man. And I'm glad the he too can call himself a former Monarch.

He was a shorter version of our current Carver. Ironically, both had family members precede them at ODU. Good kids, busted ass, may still be hope for Carver.

(07-31-2018 01:09 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:01 AM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 08:45 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  gotta laugh at this one, what is this 'WE' stuff - you wage a one man war against everything ODU, not just Jones – smh
we does not include your multiple different login names either

It’s always interesting how one of the other logins chimes in with support. The effort to change the writing style isn’t fooling anyone.

Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

its very easy to use 2 or 3 different login from the same location.

RRM thoughtful and non-combative - good one.

You're not familiar with how networks function are you? All network traffic that is outbound from a location [not in all instances but in most] typically comes from a single IP address. For example say someone connects to the forum from the IP address 65.122.109.8 in a Starbucks in Richmond. Totally made up. But anyone sitting in that cafe looks like they're coming from the same IP. Even if you switch usernames the IP is the same. The only way around that is to proxy around the internet and look like you're coming from different places. I guess someone could buy or run vpn services in multiple locations and route themselves to those specific vpns or proxy servers for each username. So that means they would have to manage 2 or 3 of those and remember or keep track of which service they're using as they post under that name. Doable? Sure, but that's a lot of effort. You could also have multiple things at your house like use your isp, then bounce to your phone, then use a mifi or something. But the routers would still give away your general location.

What you might not have witnessed was my comments were to make a point. You can debate and attack an idea but when you attack a person you do your argument no justice. This goes for anyone. Saying someone is insane immediately weaponises your words and puts the recipient on the defensive. It devolves the discussion.

So I made my statement. Then rr claimed he expected my lack of clarification on the matter. But the next afternoon made a perfectly acceptable response [maybe it was in jest or spite as it was clear my point] but i quoted it and responded that he's probably right, despite my optimistic view.

But instead of acknowledging the thoughtful post the situation is trolled.

You model the behavior you expect from others and reward that behavior when you see it.

Anyway, that's the last I'll comment on this matter. If you get it you get it, you get it. If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

Quote:If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device.

Reminds me of that one office episode where he tells the students something along the lines of "Real business is done on paper. Write that down" and everyone starts typing it out on their laptops.

(07-31-2018 04:39 PM)odu09 Wrote:  

Quote:If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device.

Reminds me of that one office episode where he tells the students something along the lines of "Real business is done on paper. Write that down" and everyone starts typing it out on their laptops.

Hah ya when he speaks at Ryan's college.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

(07-31-2018 08:45 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-30-2018 05:29 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote:  Maybe we should get a banner like Vcu did. Lol

gotta laugh at this one, what is this 'WE' stuff - you wage a one man war against everything ODU, not just Jones – smh
we does not include your multiple different login names either

Lol yep that’s me, I TOTALLY need multiple screen names to share my opinion because I’m so shy and scared to tell people exactly what I think about them lol.

I believe you are thinking of t-Mac.

As for We, I’ve been an odu fan literally since the day I was born.

I don’t attack odu, I just expect and hope for better. You act as though having standards is an insult.

You were probably one of the first in line defending Blaine’s drunken coach’s show appearance as him “having a cold” too, weren’t you? Lol

(07-31-2018 01:41 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 01:31 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:59 PM)odufansam Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:41 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  You can't honestly believe that BT being drunk was the only hinderance to the program. Marquel Delancey was one of our best players. Think about that very hard. Marquel Delancey. He was awful. He was one of the best players on that roster. That didn't happen overnight. That wasn't because BT had let go of the wheel for just one season. The demise of ODU basketball is well documented on this board at that time.

Historical success really doesn't mean much to players. They start following college basketball probably when they're Sophomores or Juniors enough to even know that ODU exists (unless they grew up in Hampton Roads). We don't stand out relative to Middle Tennessee State who we've had much more success over the last three decades--but all that matters to recruits is what they've accomplished the last decade. At the time that JJ started here, we didn't really stand out relative to Rice. Both programs were pretty dang bad.

DeLancey was our best player? Not even close. The year JJ took over he had Keenan Palmore, Aaron Bacote, Richard Ross, Ambrose Moseley, Denzel Taylor, and Dmitri Batten. I could go the year before that with most of those guys, and throw in Deshawn Painter. The year before that was Chris Cooper, Kent Bazemore, and Trian Illiadis. DeLancey was never one of our best players.

I'm not sure if you're trolling here since you clearly didn't respond to anything I actually wrote or not. If you're not trolling and it's just a reading comprehension issue, I'll clarify...

I never said Delancey was our best player. I said he was ONE OF OUR BEST PLAYERS. A two year starter is one of your best players. Sorry. That's a fact. If you don't have a better PG on your roster than Delancey, you're in trouble. BT's last couple of rosters were garbage. The cupboard was left bare. There's no valid argument to the contrary.

Your position is insane. You completely ignore that there is a reason that Rice has sucked for decades and we have not and it has very little to do with how much historical perspective a recruit has, and even less to do with BT's drinking problem.

The historical gap between the programs is the symptom not the disease.

You might as well try to convince lightning not to crackle in the Catatumbo.

Anyone with an ounce of integrity or intelligence knows that comparing rice to odu is beyond absurd. He’s lost his trolling touch, this is just sad.

(07-31-2018 12:04 PM)PhillyFlorz Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:01 AM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 08:45 AM)north beach monarch Wrote:  gotta laugh at this one, what is this 'WE' stuff - you wage a one man war against everything ODU, not just Jones – smh
we does not include your multiple different login names either

It’s always interesting how one of the other logins chimes in with support. The effort to change the writing style isn’t fooling anyone.

Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

When you recently wrote: "Wow. Since you put it that way you really cleared it up for me. How dare someone share an opinion in your precense. I'm glad you're here to keep us all straight.

I'd like to ask that everyone from now on refrain from posting until Razor has shared his opinion so we know how to proceed. He really seems to have his act together and we all have much to learn from his wisdom," were you trolling him?

Lol thankfully I have two things going for me...........

First, I have extremely thick skin and don’t take message board insults or slights very seriously and second, I truly don’t care what anyone else thinks because I’m thoroughly convinced of my own intellectual superiority.



Just kidding, your words sting guys, please take it easy on me!

(07-31-2018 03:05 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 01:09 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:01 AM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  It’s always interesting how one of the other logins chimes in with support. The effort to change the writing style isn’t fooling anyone.

Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

its very easy to use 2 or 3 different login from the same location.

RRM thoughtful and non-combative - good one.

You're not familiar with how networks function are you? All network traffic that is outbound from a location [not in all instances but in most] typically comes from a single IP address. For example say someone connects to the forum from the IP address 65.122.109.8 in a Starbucks in Richmond. Totally made up. But anyone sitting in that cafe looks like they're coming from the same IP. Even if you switch usernames the IP is the same. The only way around that is to proxy around the internet and look like you're coming from different places. I guess someone could buy or run vpn services in multiple locations and route themselves to those specific vpns or proxy servers for each username. So that means they would have to manage 2 or 3 of those and remember or keep track of which service they're using as they post under that name. Doable? Sure, but that's a lot of effort. You could also have multiple things at your house like use your isp, then bounce to your phone, then use a mifi or something. But the routers would still give away your general location.

What you might not have witnessed was my comments were to make a point. You can debate and attack an idea but when you attack a person you do your argument no justice. This goes for anyone. Saying someone is insane immediately weaponises your words and puts the recipient on the defensive. It devolves the discussion.

So I made my statement. Then rr claimed he expected my lack of clarification on the matter. But the next afternoon made a perfectly acceptable response [maybe it was in jest or spite as it was clear my point] but i quoted it and responded that he's probably right, despite my optimistic view.

But instead of acknowledging the thoughtful post the situation is trolled.

You model the behavior you expect from others and reward that behavior when you see it.

Anyway, that's the last I'll comment on this matter. If you get it you get it, you get it. If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

Jesus that sounds like an awful lot of work for an idiot like myself lol.

I like you guys and I like busting chops, but whatever you just said, ain’t happening lol. You guys aren’t worth THAT much effort lol.

The only time I ever used another screen name was when I got banned back in the good old days of the caa zone for attacking gmu and Vcu fans lol.

"Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure, it's not your fault."

"I have a very good brain."

“Trust me, I’m, like, a smart person.”

(08-01-2018 09:44 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  "Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest -and you all know it! Please don't feel so stupid or insecure, it's not your fault."

"I have a very good brain."

“Trust me, I’m, like, a smart person.”

(07-31-2018 03:05 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 01:09 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:01 AM)ODUDJ96 Wrote:  It’s always interesting how one of the other logins chimes in with support. The effort to change the writing style isn’t fooling anyone.

Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

its very easy to use 2 or 3 different login from the same location.

RRM thoughtful and non-combative - good one.

You're not familiar with how networks function are you? All network traffic that is outbound from a location [not in all instances but in most] typically comes from a single IP address. For example say someone connects to the forum from the IP address 65.122.109.8 in a Starbucks in Richmond. Totally made up. But anyone sitting in that cafe looks like they're coming from the same IP. Even if you switch usernames the IP is the same. The only way around that is to proxy around the internet and look like you're coming from different places. I guess someone could buy or run vpn services in multiple locations and route themselves to those specific vpns or proxy servers for each username. So that means they would have to manage 2 or 3 of those and remember or keep track of which service they're using as they post under that name. Doable? Sure, but that's a lot of effort. You could also have multiple things at your house like use your isp, then bounce to your phone, then use a mifi or something. But the routers would still give away your general location.

What you might not have witnessed was my comments were to make a point. You can debate and attack an idea but when you attack a person you do your argument no justice. This goes for anyone. Saying someone is insane immediately weaponises your words and puts the recipient on the defensive. It devolves the discussion.

So I made my statement. Then rr claimed he expected my lack of clarification on the matter. But the next afternoon made a perfectly acceptable response [maybe it was in jest or spite as it was clear my point] but i quoted it and responded that he's probably right, despite my optimistic view.

But instead of acknowledging the thoughtful post the situation is trolled.

You model the behavior you expect from others and reward that behavior when you see it.

Anyway, that's the last I'll comment on this matter. If you get it you get it, you get it. If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

Just out of curiosity does the admin here actively monitor this or just when there's a suspicion of duplicity?

I've always suspected that Razor was actually Keyser Soze and also a Russian Bot. I'm thinking now though he might actually be Q anon

(08-02-2018 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 03:05 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 01:09 PM)north beach monarch Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 11:26 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:43 AM)Monarchblue Wrote:  Please enlighten us to the other logins.

Ya, if that were the case we would have tracked that with the IPs unless someone is literally using multiple internet connections and proxy servers in different regions just to do that on this forum. If they are going through that much trouble they can have at it.

RRM posts a thoughtful and non-combative post and asks agree or disagree and you guys then troll him. Model the behavior you expect and reward the behavior you see. Otherwise you're no better.

its very easy to use 2 or 3 different login from the same location.

RRM thoughtful and non-combative - good one.

You're not familiar with how networks function are you? All network traffic that is outbound from a location [not in all instances but in most] typically comes from a single IP address. For example say someone connects to the forum from the IP address 65.122.109.8 in a Starbucks in Richmond. Totally made up. But anyone sitting in that cafe looks like they're coming from the same IP. Even if you switch usernames the IP is the same. The only way around that is to proxy around the internet and look like you're coming from different places. I guess someone could buy or run vpn services in multiple locations and route themselves to those specific vpns or proxy servers for each username. So that means they would have to manage 2 or 3 of those and remember or keep track of which service they're using as they post under that name. Doable? Sure, but that's a lot of effort. You could also have multiple things at your house like use your isp, then bounce to your phone, then use a mifi or something. But the routers would still give away your general location.

What you might not have witnessed was my comments were to make a point. You can debate and attack an idea but when you attack a person you do your argument no justice. This goes for anyone. Saying someone is insane immediately weaponises your words and puts the recipient on the defensive. It devolves the discussion.

So I made my statement. Then rr claimed he expected my lack of clarification on the matter. But the next afternoon made a perfectly acceptable response [maybe it was in jest or spite as it was clear my point] but i quoted it and responded that he's probably right, despite my optimistic view.

But instead of acknowledging the thoughtful post the situation is trolled.

You model the behavior you expect from others and reward that behavior when you see it.

Anyway, that's the last I'll comment on this matter. If you get it you get it, you get it. If not keep bashing your faces against the keyboard expecting different results.

Posted from mobile device. Hopefully it's coherent.

Just out of curiosity does the admin here actively monitor this or just when there's a suspicion of duplicity?

I've always suspected that Razor was actually Keyser Soze and also a Russian Bot. I'm thinking now though he might actually be Q anon

haha good reference and yes I have checked. I also look at the router names and they generally give you a location acronym or abbreviation in one of the last hops and for full transparency when folks have claimed this I found the IPs were coming from a very long distances apart.

This thread is the worst.

(08-02-2018 08:53 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  Just out of curiosity does the admin here actively monitor this or just when there's a suspicion of duplicity?

I've always suspected that Razor was actually Keyser Soze and also a Russian Bot. I'm thinking now though he might actually be Q anon

Razor is a person. Someone doxed him and his girlfriend back in the CAAZone days.

(08-02-2018 09:06 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  This thread is the worst.

We could just start posting here instead: https://csnbbs.com/thread-811929.html

But that would take effort to scroll down past the 10 important threads, I know it's a lot of work.

Don't worry though, I'm sure this thread will die a slow and painful death as is tradition.