(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

(08-02-2018 08:03 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 08:00 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 07:57 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 07:37 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 07:42 PM)Momus Wrote:  Grate job! I’m super proud of you, sport!

I'd think someone with a college education would have at least basic spelling skills...

Two words in and I already know your lieing. Have fun, junior.

Technically it's 3, thanks for playing, VI. UM...

Awesome job, sport! Keep going.

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Excellent point regarding the temptation to embezzle.

I would posit they're also more tempted to engage in backroom deals to receive kickbacks.

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?

Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

(08-02-2018 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?

Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

We learned how much Bill Clintons dirty under shorts were worth. Quite a lot as I remember.
Man if they don’t get my car repaired soon I am going to lose to many brain cells reading this chit.

(08-02-2018 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?

Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

That question is in direct response to the idea that candidates should release credit reports. I’m just curious whether the poster believes in a complete release of financial information, or if they’re willing to be hypocritical to defend the actions of Trump. How about you? Where do you stand on financial disclosures of candidates?

(08-02-2018 11:09 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?

Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

That question is in direct response to the idea that candidates should release credit reports. I’m just curious whether the poster believes in a complete release of financial information, or if they’re willing to be hypocritical to defend the actions of Trump. How about you? Where do you stand on financial disclosures of candidates?

I could not care less. How successful one is in life would be more important to me. Successful in in life has nothing to do with how many elections one has won BTW. Career politicians turn my stomach. Left and right.

(08-02-2018 11:09 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?
Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

That question is in direct response to the idea that candidates should release credit reports. I’m just curious whether the poster believes in a complete release of financial information, or if they’re willing to be hypocritical to defend the actions of Trump. How about you? Where do you stand on financial disclosures of candidates?

I'm fine with maximum disclosure. Any election is about hiring someone to do a job, and I think that the kinds of things you ask for in employment decisions are appropriate. I've hired a lot of people in my day, and I've never asked for tax returns. I have asked for credit reports and criminal background checks and college transcripts, among others.

I think other disclosures are far more meaningful than tax returns. In addition to the items mentioned in the prior paragraph, I'd like to see military records if they served, medical records, and a complete paper trail from college through today. If you want to add tax returns to that list, I'm fine with that.

But I'm not fine with tax returns without the other stuff. As I asked above, what useful information could be gleaned from the tax returns of Donald Trump, or any other candidate? In Trump's case, I think his personal tax returns would be particularly unrevealing, since I'm quite certain that what you'd see is a bunch of one-line entries from K-1s of various S Corps, partnerships, and LLCs through which he conducts his businesses. If he's had competent tax advice over the years, I'd say that's a certainty. We've had a lot of candidates disclose a lot of tax returns over the years. What is the most meaningful thing ever disclosed in any of those returns? Can you think of anything meaningful without doing an Internet search?

If you want financial information, a personal financial statement would be more revealing than a tax return.

I would not be opposed to a statutory requirement for certain disclosures from any candidate, but I would want some items that might be useful to be included.

(08-01-2018 06:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:16 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:04 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 05:58 PM)shere khan Wrote:  I now understand why you are particularly fond of dumb Americans, regardless of creed or color.

Carry on, you are now a flyover poster.

You are an alias and I've figured it out.

Bwahahahaha

I so glad I’ve helped you identify a talent. Cleaning up behind others is a worthwhile and noble job.

Lol. Keep going.

Your welcome. I’m proud of you for making your little contribution.

Mplsbison

Ding ding ding!!!

Started thinking this yesterday, now pretty damn certain.

Same brain-dead talking points blathering anyway.

Not to get involved in the whole “moderators” business and all,

But was Mpls banned somewhere along the way too?

How do I always manage to miss this stuff?

Whatever happened to Fitty and his idiocy? Same thing?

Asking for a friend BTW... (nah, being gossipy, lol)

(08-02-2018 07:52 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 04:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Why would anyone vote for someone that stupid?

What the EFFFF!!! Was that?!? Haha

(08-02-2018 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:16 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:04 PM)Momus Wrote:   I so glad I’ve helped you identify a talent. Cleaning up behind others is a worthwhile and noble job.

Lol. Keep going.

Your welcome. I’m proud of you for making your little contribution.

Mplsbison

Ding ding ding!!!

Started thinking this yesterday, now pretty damn certain.

Same brain-dead talking points blathering anyway.

Not to get involved in the whole “moderators” business and all,

But was Mpls banned somewhere along the way too?

How do I always manage to miss this stuff?

Whatever happened to Fitty and his idiocy? Same thing?

Asking for a friend BTW... (nah, being gossipy, lol)

Nope he or she is a Memphis fan because most of their post from 2009 are about Memphis

(08-02-2018 12:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:16 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol. Keep going.

Your welcome. I’m proud of you for making your little contribution.

Mplsbison

Ding ding ding!!!

Started thinking this yesterday, now pretty damn certain.

Same brain-dead talking points blathering anyway.

Not to get involved in the whole “moderators” business and all,

But was Mpls banned somewhere along the way too?

How do I always manage to miss this stuff?

Whatever happened to Fitty and his idiocy? Same thing?

Asking for a friend BTW... (nah, being gossipy, lol)

Nope he or she is a Memphis fan because most of their post are from 2009 about Memphis

Yeah. Similar command of the English language though.

(08-02-2018 12:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:16 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol. Keep going.

Your welcome. I’m proud of you for making your little contribution.

Mplsbison

Ding ding ding!!!

Started thinking this yesterday, now pretty damn certain.

Same brain-dead talking points blathering anyway.

Not to get involved in the whole “moderators” business and all,

But was Mpls banned somewhere along the way too?

How do I always manage to miss this stuff?

Whatever happened to Fitty and his idiocy? Same thing?

Asking for a friend BTW... (nah, being gossipy, lol)

Nope he or she is a Memphis fan because most of their post are from 2009 about Memphis

Yeah. Similar command of the English language though.

(08-02-2018 09:38 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Excellent point regarding the temptation to embezzle.

I would posit they're also more tempted to engage in backroom deals to receive kickbacks.

All of the above. She wasn’t part of that school board was she?

(08-02-2018 10:54 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:50 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Why? What information would that reveal? What significant information has ever been revealed from tax returns released by politicians?

Is it a tool to gain useful information, or simply a harassment tactic?

We learned how much Bill Clintons dirty under shorts were worth. Quite a lot as I remember.
Man if they don’t get my car repaired soon I am going to lose to many brain cells reading this chit.

Lol!

I’m doing the same damn thing.

Waiting on a new cruise cluster install on a car we JUST bought my son...

Sure, 60–90 minutes, he tells me.

Here I am 2 hours later. I think they’re waiting on the part to be flown in...

(08-02-2018 12:53 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 12:36 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:38 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:16 PM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 06:07 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol. Keep going.

Your welcome. I’m proud of you for making your little contribution.

Mplsbison

Ding ding ding!!!

Started thinking this yesterday, now pretty damn certain.

Same brain-dead talking points blathering anyway.

Not to get involved in the whole “moderators” business and all,

But was Mpls banned somewhere along the way too?

How do I always manage to miss this stuff?

Whatever happened to Fitty and his idiocy? Same thing?

Asking for a friend BTW... (nah, being gossipy, lol)

Nope he or she is a Memphis fan because most of their post from 2009 are about Memphis

Oh well, so much for that then.

Are there really two peas in that pod?


Yikes!!!

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Apparently, way too many people have no idea what is and what is not included in tax returns.

(08-02-2018 02:54 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 10:39 AM)Momus Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:20 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-02-2018 09:14 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(08-01-2018 03:24 PM)Momus Wrote:  Abrams is polling 2 points ahead of the miserable GOP candidate. She has a very good chance of winning. Feel free to bash someone with student loan debt and credit card debt. See how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with these sorts of debts.

Keep electing people to be in charge of billion-dollar budgets who can't manage a personal budget and see how that works out for you among an electorate increasingly saddled with additional taxes due to fiscal mismanagement of public funds.

Heck, IMO, folks that are running for that type of office should have a credit report pulled prior to running. I had to have a credit report pulled before beginning basically every job I've had since college prior to being hired. Seems like folks in charge of controlling millions of dollars should at least be competent. Besides, folks with terrible credit are also more tempted to embezzle, etc...

Should they also release their tax returns?

Apparently, way too many people have no idea what is and what is not included in tax returns.

Exactly.

Way back in 1967, the Governor of Michigan — former auto-executive George Romney, who was deemed a “liberal Republican” in the parlance of that era — was running for the 1968 GOP presidential nomination. He wasn’t getting much traction, and he hit upon the idea of releasing his tax returns (12 years worth!) as a way of illustrating his more-pious-than-thou transparency. The voters were not impressed and his candidacy died in the early primaries.

Fast forward to 1975, and now it was the Governor of Georgia — retired Navy Lieutenant and farmer Jimmy Carter — seeking a presidential nomination, and also getting nowhere (or so it seemed). For reasons very similar to Romney’s, Carter released his federal tax returns. But America had been through a wrenching political scandal in the interim years, and suddenly Carter’s transparency struck a lot of people as both sincere and relevant. He won the election. That established a trend that has been very hard to stop.

For 40 years, basically anyone who wanted to be taken seriously as a potential president basically Had to cough up their federal returns. Even people like George Romney’s son Willard who avoided doing it as long as possible, finally bowed to the media pressure and released his returns for at least one year, maybe more.

But then suddenly, Trump said “F that, I’m not letting you see them” — and he won, anyway. It’s too soon to say for sure; we’ll have to wait and see how the next couple of presidential campaign cycles play out. But I think it’s possible that Trump has belled the cat and future candidates are going to be much more willing to say “None of your business.”