(07-29-2018 12:13 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(07-28-2018 10:01 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  Quo,

Hard truth, NOLA ranks as metro #46 in the US. It's a backwoods as far as media presence. It is roughly the same size as Richmond, Louisville, Hartford, Salt Lake City, Birmingham and Buffalo. Love Bourbon street, but frankly this is where you go to be out of the spotlight. It's the home of the SBC.

New Orleans is a "back woods" for media? One of the most famous cities in the USA? Heck New Orleans is famous around the world! It's a bucket-list destination for millions. Most of the 45 cities ahead of it on the "media size" list are clown cities nobody even knows about by comparison.

New Orleans is a celebrity city, famous everywhere. You've heard of New Orleans, unless you are a fellow celebrity city like LA, San Fran, Chicago, Philly, DC, ATL, or New York, maybe a couple others, New Orleans hasn't heard of your town. Tennessee Williams once said "America has three cities - New York, San Francisco, and New Orleans. Everywhere else is Cleveland".

Home of the SBC? Well the AAC is G5 too so would fit right in. But of course New Orleans is also the home of the Sugar Bowl. And other low-media profile events like Super Bowls, NBA All-Star games, etc.

Many NFL owners have said that if NOLA didn't have a 45 year old stadium and if they could get away with it politically, they'd hold the Super Bowl there every year!

Look, Dallas is a fantastic, huge city. The AAC just has no place there. The AAC has absolutely zero cultural identity in the West. The western wing is the Frontier Trading Post of the conference. Rest of AAC gets news from there by Pony Express three weeks after it happened. For all we know, Tulsa and Wichita have been overrun by herds of Buffalo today. If so, we won't find out until around mid-August. New Orleans is far from perfect, but it's better than Dallas. It's not best though - Memphis or Cincy would be even better.

But Dallas ... that just makes no sense. AAC in Texas? Texas could care less. Not that New Orleans would care either, but there's no pretense of trying to build anything there.

As for airports, I've already explained that they don't matter, otherwise why is the SEC in Birmingham? Besides, NOLA has daily nonstop flights to anywhere major you want to go in USA. That's not because people from New Orleans want direct access to other places, it's because people in those other places want direct access to New Orleans.

You can come at this from many angles, but New Orleans being "low profile" isn't one of them. Hilarious!

These days? Yes, New Orleans is backwoods, at least compared to most AAC cities or other viable places to put the HQ, such as Atlanta, Chicago or Washington.

You can only milk tourist traps like Bourbon Street for so long before they become stale and overshadow anything else. Katrina exposed New Orleans for what it is and has been for decades.

(07-31-2018 04:54 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  These days? Yes, New Orleans is backwoods, at least compared to most AAC cities or other viable places to put the HQ, such as Atlanta, Chicago or Washington.

You can only milk tourist traps like Bourbon Street for so long before they become stale and overshadow anything else.

What about what I said was ridiculous? Are you biased because New Orleans is down the road from you or something?

Of the AAC cities with at least 200,000 people, New Orleans ranks dead last as a business hub except for partial member Wichita and maybe Tulsa and Memphis (they're roughly equal).

(07-31-2018 10:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  What about what I said was ridiculous?

Everything. Just re-read the prior post i made. It explains everything.

(07-31-2018 10:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  What about what I said was ridiculous? Are you biased because New Orleans is down the road from you or something?

Of the AAC cities with at least 200,000 people, New Orleans ranks dead last as a business hub except for partial member Wichita and maybe Tulsa and Memphis (they're roughly equal).

In looking at corporate donors, Memphis is better than New Orleans, since you have FedEx and Autozone. Also, Wichita has the Kochs, which is more than NO has at this point from a corporate standpoint. Maybe 30-40 years ago NO was in good shape, but those days have passed due to consolidation in the oil industry moving many of the movers and shakers to Houston.

Raleigh is the answer!

(07-31-2018 12:16 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Raleigh is the answer!

Only if we were talking about the ACC, since it has to be better than Greensboro.

(07-31-2018 12:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  What about what I said was ridiculous? Are you biased because New Orleans is down the road from you or something?

Of the AAC cities with at least 200,000 people, New Orleans ranks dead last as a business hub except for partial member Wichita and maybe Tulsa and Memphis (they're roughly equal).

In looking at corporate donors, Memphis is better than New Orleans, since you have FedEx and Autozone. Also, Wichita has the Kochs, which is more than NO has at this point from a corporate standpoint. Maybe 30-40 years ago NO was in good shape, but those days have passed due to consolidation in the oil industry moving many of the movers and shakers to Houston.

Corporate donors to what?

I've already said Memphis was a better choice than New Orleans, for geography reasons.

This has really gone off the rails.

(07-31-2018 12:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  What about what I said was ridiculous? Are you biased because New Orleans is down the road from you or something?

Of the AAC cities with at least 200,000 people, New Orleans ranks dead last as a business hub except for partial member Wichita and maybe Tulsa and Memphis (they're roughly equal).

In looking at corporate donors, Memphis is better than New Orleans, since you have FedEx and Autozone. Also, Wichita has the Kochs, which is more than NO has at this point from a corporate standpoint. Maybe 30-40 years ago NO was in good shape, but those days have passed due to consolidation in the oil industry moving many of the movers and shakers to Houston.

Isn't Pizza Hut based in Wichita?

(08-01-2018 06:34 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 12:05 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(07-31-2018 10:00 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  What about what I said was ridiculous? Are you biased because New Orleans is down the road from you or something?

Of the AAC cities with at least 200,000 people, New Orleans ranks dead last as a business hub except for partial member Wichita and maybe Tulsa and Memphis (they're roughly equal).

In looking at corporate donors, Memphis is better than New Orleans, since you have FedEx and Autozone. Also, Wichita has the Kochs, which is more than NO has at this point from a corporate standpoint. Maybe 30-40 years ago NO was in good shape, but those days have passed due to consolidation in the oil industry moving many of the movers and shakers to Houston.

Isn't Pizza Hut based in Wichita?

It began in Wichita then sold to Pepsico and is now part of the Yum Brands.