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RE: DJ Jeffries just decommitted from Kentucky
(08-18-2018 06:04 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
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(08-08-2018 11:34 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  and you said Penny would be a bad hire people are wrong sometimes

Never said it would be a bad hire, I questioned the hire

When Penny interviewed before Tubby was hired he wasn't prepared, had no plan

He's learned, this time was different
Your post kind of leads me into posting something I've never posted or said anything about and I'm not sure if anyone has posted anything like it.... but

I've had multiple private discussions with folks (who most would say are high level Memphis folks) that echo your post. I'll take it a step further though and say that the grand plan of hiring Tubby was ultimately to give Penny the time to get things together.

Am I saying Tubby was basically a highly paid patsy and was brought in as an old guy who really didnt care, and the administration knew wouldn't succeed long term which would lead to Penny?

Yes I am, which I'm totally ok with



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And you were abducted by aliens too? High level Memphis folks most would say. Let's put Tubby on the payroll at $3,000,000 a year just to keep everyone in the dark about hiring Penny in a couple of years. BS

I'm sure I'll be lambasted for saying this, but there was one (1) goal in mind at the time, and only one goal, at the time Tubby was hired, driven by empty promises from the Big 12 to us.

We were preparing for Big 12 conference play. Tubby was familiar with the Big 12, Tubbby was Big 12 COY, and he has one of the cleanest reputations in the business without any baggage that might have potentially posed a threat to those plans.

When that chess move didn't pan out, things changed. It is what it is. The Administration acted swiftly to administer that change.

It's really that simple.

Now you know the rest of the story.

The administration and boosters didn't plan on Tubby retiring right after he signed his contract. That's the truth. If Tubby hadn't qukt and put forth some genuine effort he would probably still be here and Penny would likely be on the Kentucky staff.
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RE: DJ Jeffries just decommitted from Kentucky
(08-18-2018 06:04 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 08:25 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 06:54 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 01:31 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 11:34 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  and you said Penny would be a bad hire people are wrong sometimes

Never said it would be a bad hire, I questioned the hire

When Penny interviewed before Tubby was hired he wasn't prepared, had no plan

He's learned, this time was different
Your post kind of leads me into posting something I've never posted or said anything about and I'm not sure if anyone has posted anything like it.... but

I've had multiple private discussions with folks (who most would say are high level Memphis folks) that echo your post. I'll take it a step further though and say that the grand plan of hiring Tubby was ultimately to give Penny the time to get things together.

Am I saying Tubby was basically a highly paid patsy and was brought in as an old guy who really didnt care, and the administration knew wouldn't succeed long term which would lead to Penny?

Yes I am, which I'm totally ok with



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And you were abducted by aliens too? High level Memphis folks most would say. Let's put Tubby on the payroll at $3,000,000 a year just to keep everyone in the dark about hiring Penny in a couple of years. BS

I'm sure I'll be lambasted for saying this, but there was one (1) goal in mind at the time, and only one goal, at the time Tubby was hired, driven by empty promises from the Big 12 to us.

We were preparing for Big 12 conference play. Tubby was familiar with the Big 12, Tubbby was Big 12 COY, and he has one of the cleanest reputations in the business without any baggage that might have potentially posed a threat to those plans.

When that chess move didn't pan out, things changed. It is what it is. The Administration acted swiftly to administer that change.

It's really that simple.

Now you know the rest of the story.

Certainly sounds plausible. I share your sentiments.
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Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.
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(08-20-2018 02:31 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.

Starting to be a lot of smoke around Mississippi State being the leader
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(08-20-2018 02:31 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.

Had he put it on Memphis, or was it still on UK?

Those guys change their predictions frequently. Then quote their accuracy % based only upon what the ball was at the time of the commitment - not any of the changes they had leading up to it.
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(08-20-2018 03:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 02:31 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.

Had he put it on Memphis, or was it still on UK?

Those guys change their predictions frequently. Then quote their accuracy % based only upon what the ball was at the time of the commitment - not any of the changes they had leading up to it.

Pretty sure he changed from Memphis to foggy. And yeah if the tea leaves say Memphis again at any point, I’m sure he’ll switch it back.
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RE: DJ Jeffries just decommitted from Kentucky
(08-19-2018 07:19 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(08-18-2018 06:04 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 08:25 AM)cmt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 06:54 PM)maximus Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 01:31 PM)Easterwood Wrote:  Never said it would be a bad hire, I questioned the hire

When Penny interviewed before Tubby was hired he wasn't prepared, had no plan

He's learned, this time was different
Your post kind of leads me into posting something I've never posted or said anything about and I'm not sure if anyone has posted anything like it.... but

I've had multiple private discussions with folks (who most would say are high level Memphis folks) that echo your post. I'll take it a step further though and say that the grand plan of hiring Tubby was ultimately to give Penny the time to get things together.

Am I saying Tubby was basically a highly paid patsy and was brought in as an old guy who really didnt care, and the administration knew wouldn't succeed long term which would lead to Penny?

Yes I am, which I'm totally ok with



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And you were abducted by aliens too? High level Memphis folks most would say. Let's put Tubby on the payroll at $3,000,000 a year just to keep everyone in the dark about hiring Penny in a couple of years. BS

I'm sure I'll be lambasted for saying this, but there was one (1) goal in mind at the time, and only one goal, at the time Tubby was hired, driven by empty promises from the Big 12 to us.

We were preparing for Big 12 conference play. Tubby was familiar with the Big 12, Tubbby was Big 12 COY, and he has one of the cleanest reputations in the business without any baggage that might have potentially posed a threat to those plans.

When that chess move didn't pan out, things changed. It is what it is. The Administration acted swiftly to administer that change.

It's really that simple.

Now you know the rest of the story.

The administration and boosters didn't plan on Tubby retiring right after he signed his contract. That's the truth. If Tubby hadn't qukt and put forth some genuine effort he would probably still be here and Penny would likely be on the Kentucky staff.

I don't disagree, I can't speak to any of that beyond fact or fiction. That may very well be true about Tubby. Not sure about the Penny/Kentucky staff comment, but it's all beside the point. Tubby was a strategic hire, not merely a reactionary "fill in the blank" operational coaching hire. By an administration with a Grand vision on the horizon for the Tigers to take us to the Promised Land. Swing and a miss, it happens, but not for our lack of effort and keeping our end of the bargain.

The administration and boosters didn't plan on the Big 12 President and Big 12 Commissioner Bowlsby and Boren being such dysfunctional and inept, incompetent leaders. That's also the truth.

Now we're at Plan B, for the time being.

And here we all Tiger fans are, trying to land $8-$10M/year from the Networks through the renogtiation of the AAC's next media contract. It is what it is.

A strategy built around empty promises from empty leaderless men sitting in positions of leadership delivering empty promises that didn't pan out due to their lack of leadership. It really was that simple.
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RE: DJ Jeffries just decommitted from Kentucky
(08-20-2018 04:29 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 03:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 02:31 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.

Had he put it on Memphis, or was it still on UK?

Those guys change their predictions frequently. Then quote their accuracy % based only upon what the ball was at the time of the commitment - not any of the changes they had leading up to it.

Pretty sure he changed from Memphis to foggy. And yeah if the tea leaves say Memphis again at any point, I’m sure he’ll switch it back.

They need to fix that system. You can beat it to have a high %.
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RE: DJ Jeffries just decommitted from Kentucky
(08-21-2018 08:37 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 04:29 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 03:57 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(08-20-2018 02:31 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Noticed Jonah changed his crystal ball to “foggy” for DJ.

Had he put it on Memphis, or was it still on UK?

Those guys change their predictions frequently. Then quote their accuracy % based only upon what the ball was at the time of the commitment - not any of the changes they had leading up to it.

Pretty sure he changed from Memphis to foggy. And yeah if the tea leaves say Memphis again at any point, I’m sure he’ll switch it back.

They need to fix that system. You can beat it to have a high %.

Don't look at the % Accuracy - look at the "rank" for each predictor. The system is that they get a certain number of points based on days you had the prediction locked in correctly before the decision - if you change the day before the decision you essentially get zero points. Based on that system top 5 predictors nationally last year were Matt Scott (Kansas), Andrew Slater, Dain Ervin, Jerry Meyer and Evan Daniels
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32% at the crystal ball have him going to Kentucky. Either that 32% really thinks that or they just haven't gotten around to making changes to another school yet. I suspect it's the latter.
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Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up
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(08-21-2018 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up

And I'm pretty sure you said the same for CJ Walker. Let's hope you're right this time.
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(08-22-2018 04:22 AM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(08-21-2018 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up

And I'm pretty sure you said the same for CJ Walker. Let's hope you're right this time.
I don't know about CJ Walker but I'd be shocked if DJ goes anywhere else. You don't decommit from Kensucky to go to MooU. The young man could go anywhere but it's going to be Memphis.
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(08-22-2018 04:22 AM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(08-21-2018 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up

And I'm pretty sure you said the same for CJ Walker. Let's hope you're right this time.

Lots of people felt good about CJ Walker. Ask Alabama. They had a visit scheduled. And got cut.
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(08-22-2018 07:51 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(08-22-2018 04:22 AM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(08-21-2018 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up

And I'm pretty sure you said the same for CJ Walker. Let's hope you're right this time.
I don't know about CJ Walker but I'd be shocked if DJ goes anywhere else. You don't decommit from Kensucky to go to MooU. The young man could go anywhere but it's going to be Memphis.

I don't think he is not going to UK because he already has made his mind up to go elsewhere.

I think he left UK because UK was not being open and honest about their recruiting other guys and their commitment to him.
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(08-22-2018 12:53 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(08-22-2018 07:51 AM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  
(08-22-2018 04:22 AM)SouthernMSTiger Wrote:  
(08-21-2018 10:58 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Pretty sure DJ is going to stripe up

And I'm pretty sure you said the same for CJ Walker. Let's hope you're right this time.
I don't know about CJ Walker but I'd be shocked if DJ goes anywhere else. You don't decommit from Kensucky to go to MooU. The young man could go anywhere but it's going to be Memphis.

I don't think he is not going to UK because he already has made his mind up to go elsewhere.

I think he left UK because UK was not being open and honest about their recruiting other guys and their commitment to him.

Maybe. But if that's the case, they didn't do their homework on UK - which is unlikely. Cal almost always gets guys rated in the top 5 of their position. If he recruits a position, you can bet he's going to get a top 5 guy in that slot. For example, DJ is listed as a PF. Cal has recruited the PF position in 8 of his 10 classes at UK. The top PF he signed in each of those 8 classes was ranked: 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 2, 7, and 2.

DJ is ranked 10th at his position. Cal was certainly going to continue to recruit the position.

I think he left UK because he wants to go somewhere else specifically. I think it's Memphis, after being around the Memphis kids, coaches, and recruits all summer, and seeing the excitement. But it could be Miss State or Old Miss or Kansas for other reasons. I will believe it when I see it. Either way, I think the decision is made.
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If this is the case, does it hurt that we have other PFs being recruited for same class:

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Malcolm Dandridge PF

Prospects:
Matthew Hurt PF
Tendon Watford PF
Chandler Lawson PF


???
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IMO players of this skill level aren't concerned about having to compete. I don't think it's based on who he'd have to compete with at Kentucky. I DO think who he spent the summer with mattered. And the fact that Cal and co wasn't there to keep him feeling good vibes didn't help. But chances are, he does know where he's going. I also believe Wiseman knows. This is only because I myself am a planner. Decision this size: they should have already done most of their research. But who knows? Not me.
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(08-23-2018 01:35 PM)gusrob Wrote:  If this is the case, does it hurt that we have other PFs being recruited for same class:

Signed:
Malcolm Dandridge PF

Prospects:
Matthew Hurt PF
Tendon Watford PF
Chandler Lawson PF


???

Malcolm is listed as a center on 247. I would think he could play PF or C, but that’s his official designation on 247 and ESPN. MD seems like more of a bruiser than the other prospects.

Possibly a similar deal with Lomax and Harris. You could ask, “why did you recruit 2 PGs?” That’s a fair question, but Harris and ALo are different players, each with their own set of skills.
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If you've ever seen DJ play, you know he's not a power forward. And there's no way he was going to play that position at UK.
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