Sounds like someone that has no real desire to be a professional Football player. It's very unlikely this behavior is brand new. It will affect him whereever. Hope he gets his head on straight and goes on to success.

(09-02-2018 02:49 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  He did this all to himself... he showed up late for a Cardinals interview before the draft after a reported night of hard partying and the Cardinals then literally shut the door on him while he was in still in AZ. Then the Browns dropped their interest. All the teams talk to each other. This caused him to drop down in draft. He then gets an OVI after the draft and before Bengals fall camp.... JEEZ. Kids got some big issues and likely will have to work very very very hard to ever play in NFL.

I hope he likes his Bonus $ Maserati

I think you're right. I hope he can get whatever is eating him straightened out, because he can play. It would be a relief to hear he made the practice squad, though. At least he got a little TV time which might help the possibility of him landing somewhere else if the Bengals don't sign him to the ps.

Woodside was signed to Titans practice squad today, so whatever his issues are lets hope he can overcome them and take full advantage of this second chance and succeed-likely last one he gets

I’m glad to hear that news. Thanks PaulJ

Go Rockets !!!!

This is exactly what is wrong with the NFL. OVERATED, OVERHYPED and way OVERGLORIFIED (if there is such a word). The Bengals should not have drafted him when they already had 3 QBs on the roster. I mean what's wrong with The Bengals when they cannot even assign him to The Practice Squad, but, sign Christian Hackenburg to the Practice Squad after he'd been waived three times.

After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

I believe he graduated in December 2016, with a Marketing Degree and 3.4 GPA. He was working on his Master's.
He and Cody were two of thirty student/athletes that were nominated for the "Senior CLASS Award" in October 2017. The Award is for excellence on the football field, classroom, and in community service. There were 4 MAC nominees.

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Really??? Must be great to have lived life without making a mistake. I believe that a "serious drinking issue" would have been revealed in his many years at UT.

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT.

He would have had to been tipping it with the entire O-line. Any local establishments do any major remodel's after the bowl season?

We need to get to the bottom of this!

We're too far into speculation. How about we wish the kid the best and move on to newer things? Like how could a "normal" human being swipe the ball off a punter's foot? Hmmmm? Anyone else notice that they never show Thompson's ungloved hands?

JT Barrett, who broke numerous records at O$U, is also on a practice squad. You can be an amazing college player but those skills don't always translate to the league. I have faith in Logan experiencing success with some team but it seems he has some issues to sort out before that happens. Showing up late to an NFL team meeting does not sound like the Logan Woodside we all knew and cherished at Toledo.

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Our OL and DL got blown up against APPST. Can’t blame Woodside for that.

I hope he lands a great gig for both himself and as a representative of UT!!! He has the TALENT

the cream will rise.

Go Rockets!!!

(09-03-2018 03:35 PM)Michigan Rocket Wrote:  This is exactly what is wrong with the NFL. OVERATED, OVERHYPED and way OVERGLORIFIED (if there is such a word). The Bengals should not have drafted him when they already had 3 QBs on the roster. I mean what's wrong with The Bengals when they cannot even assign him to The Practice Squad, but, sign Christian Hackenburg to the Practice Squad after he'd been waived three times.

"OVERATED, OVERHYPED and way OVERGLORIFIED" ...could say same about college football....

But transition to the pro game is not easy, especially for QBs, lots of reasons why he may have not been a good fit for the Bengals, including on their practice squad, some physical skills, perhaps personal. And yes they had a need for backup QBs so made sense to look for one late in the draft (7th rd), obviously he had some attributes they liked and look for in a QB, but the NFL draft is a crap shoot from top to bottom, but especially late. He now has a second chance and hope he takes advantage of it fully.

(09-05-2018 10:11 PM)rockytop Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Our OL and DL got blown up against APPST. Can’t blame Woodside for that.

Blame is on the coaching staff number 1.
They practice the up in comers a ton to see what they are all about, during those 15 ?practices between the end of the season and our bowl game.
The senior leadership gets apathetic.
Coaching staff always touts the benefit of making a post season bowl is the younger players get more snaps.
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(09-05-2018 10:11 PM)rockytop Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Our OL and DL got blown up against APPST. Can’t blame Woodside for that.

He was 16 of 29 for 124 yards and threw 3 interceptions. Of the 13 incompletions, I would estimate more than half were behind the receivers. He looked awful out there. Don't recall him getting any more pressure than in other games. We had a total of 8 first downs in the game - so it is fair to say the entire team was awful. Just expected a lot more from the guy who was pretty accurate all year.

(09-05-2018 03:13 PM)AquaRocket Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Really??? Must be great to have lived life without making a mistake. I believe that a "serious drinking issue" would have been revealed in his many years at UT.

ok - you seem to think a guy doesn't have a drinking problem when he blows a 1.3 while driving up to a carryout to get more beer at 3am? Does that seem like normal behavior to you? You think, at the age of 23 that it is the one and only time he has ever been hammered and he just happened to do get caught when he did it that one time ever. Yeh, that makes logical sense. Don't ever believe that people that have drinking issues will do it with others around. In fact, the thing that stuck out for me was that he was all alone when he was caught. That is not normal behavior. You get drunk, run out of beer and decide to go up and get some more instead of just going to bed. That seems normal?

You might want to have a discussion with a probation officer that has to deal with this stuff all the time and why they put offenders on daily drug and alcohol testing for 3 to 6 months. They want to know if they can go without any alcohol at all for that period of time. A high level of offenders fail to stay clean for that short of a period of time.

The likelihood is that this is not even close to his first offense of drinking and driving - and almost certainly that he has been hammered before. The fact that he did not drive in other situations has nothing to do with it being legal. It is the behavior that raises red flags. People drink too much all the time - but generally never when they are by themselves. We don't know the whole story. Maybe he was with others, they left and he was not ready to end the party. For whatever reason, he got into a car when pretty well hammered and went up to get more to drink. By himself. It in no way implies he is not a good person, only that the symptoms are there to indicate there could be a problem. I said "could"

This could be a wake-up for him - or it could be nothing at all. Time will tell. He better be honest with himself. I was around someone for about a year that had a serious substance abuse problem. They hide it well.

As for your other editorial comments - go screw yourself. I never said I had no problems in life. You made that assessment, not me.

(09-10-2018 09:13 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 03:13 PM)AquaRocket Wrote:  

(09-05-2018 02:43 PM)MotoRocket Wrote:  After his performance in the bowl game - you have to wonder if he let loose before that game knowing his career was essentially over at UT. Does anyone know if he received his degree after 5 years on the football team? There are always underlying issues behind drinking excessively - especially when it disrupts critical events in his life/career. It's fixable - but if he has a serious drinking issue, the question is whether he could ever become completely sober and maintain it with the lifestyle that accompanies professional sports. Many have. Many more have not been able to.

Really??? Must be great to have lived life without making a mistake. I believe that a "serious drinking issue" would have been revealed in his many years at UT.

ok - you seem to think a guy doesn't have a drinking problem when he blows a 1.3 while driving up to a carryout to get more beer at 3am? Does that seem like normal behavior to you? You think, at the age of 23 that it is the one and only time he has ever been hammered and he just happened to do get caught when he did it that one time ever. Yeh, that makes logical sense. Don't ever believe that people that have drinking issues will do it with others around. In fact, the thing that stuck out for me was that he was all alone when he was caught. That is not normal behavior. You get drunk, run out of beer and decide to go up and get some more instead of just going to bed. That seems normal?

You might want to have a discussion with a probation officer that has to deal with this stuff all the time and why they put offenders on daily drug and alcohol testing for 3 to 6 months. They want to know if they can go without any alcohol at all for that period of time. A high level of offenders fail to stay clean for that short of a period of time.

The likelihood is that this is not even close to his first offense of drinking and driving - and almost certainly that he has been hammered before. The fact that he did not drive in other situations has nothing to do with it being legal. It is the behavior that raises red flags. People drink too much all the time - but generally never when they are by themselves. We don't know the whole story. Maybe he was with others, they left and he was not ready to end the party. For whatever reason, he got into a car when pretty well hammered and went up to get more to drink. By himself. It in no way implies he is not a good person, only that the symptoms are there to indicate there could be a problem. I said "could"

This could be a wake-up for him - or it could be nothing at all. Time will tell. He better be honest with himself. I was around someone for about a year that had a serious substance abuse problem. They hide it well.

As for your other editorial comments - go screw yourself. I never said I had no problems in life. You made that assessment, not me.

Dude I have a breathalizer, and I can blow a .20 and feel fine (No I don't drive). He blew a .12 right? and got caught in a parking lot going 10 over the suggested speed??

He made a mistake with some extra money in his pocket after feeling invincible being a great player at a smaller school... The stage has changed for him. He screwed up... Don't come at him like he's a damned terrorist. This happens with a lot of players.

well, i think Moto is being abrasive and taking things personally here, but his points are valid. there are signs here of Woodside having a serious problem, although we could be wrong. we tend to simplify and demonize substance abuse in this country. in reality, there's a lot of people who are highly capable in their profession, art or personal life who also have an addiction problem. for some it keeps them from fully realizing their success. for others, they can do some things really well while also maintaining their addiction (although it usually limits them in other ways). woodside loves football. when i would stop back in town and swing by the glass bowl I would often find him there alone throwing. however, he may also have something eating at him that alcohol seems to soothe. or a physical weakness for it. who knows. hopefully, he figures it out. kareem hunt partying in the offseason at the nice hotel with friends and having the groupies situation get out of control is silly and immature for a proven pro. woodside getting wasted and driving for more more liquor at 3 a.m. when his first training camp is about to start is either stone stupid or shows he can't control his drinking.

Anyone sweeping this under a rug as a "mistake" is making the mistake in my opinion. Moto is dead on with his concerns and I believe also his evaluation of the DUI. That's not a "normal" drinking. And the personal attack by aqua was uncalled for. If that game and performance had happened at OSU, I think there'd a lot less "mistake" or poor performance evaluation and a bit more, "could be a sign."

Sure we all hope it's a one-off but if it were a loved one, would YOU treat it as such and just hope....

To be clear, I did not intend to be abrasive - but sometimes when you make a comment and then get "attacked" personally - I don't take it too well and attack back. I should not have done that.

Also, having a drinking problem does not mean you are a full time alcoholic. It can mean that under certain times of stress or other "triggers" you give way to a few drinks/beers and then lose your impulse control - and continue on drinking. It may happen very infrequently - but when it does, the drinking tends to escalate - and no one is known for making good decisions when inebriated. I've been there before myself. It was also a time when it was not punished nearly as severely as it is now. I had 2 situations in my 20's that would have landed me in jail today. I was let go and told to drive straight home. That would never fly today. It did not mean I was an alcholic, but it did mean that I did not know when to stop when I had too much to drink. Then I decided it was ok to drive home. I was caught twice and let go (this was in the late 70's).

I was lucky. Very lucky. Not that I was let go - but that I did not hurt someone else on the roads when I was being very irresponsible. Given that Woodside is a responsible person who has performed well in the classroom as well as on the field - he likely has learned a lot from this incident. The punishment will be a reminder for him going forward. He was likely also given mandatory counseling by the court - including victim impact statements from those that have had loved ones killed by drunk drivers. I hope it is a one-off. I hope he has learned from that mistake, regardless if it was the first time - or just the first time he was caught. On that - I can speak from experience. I was just plain lucky. And incredibly stupid at the time.