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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
Marshall should try and get some of the eastern G5 outside of the AAC into a nice geographic conference.

East: Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, JMU, ODU, Army

West: Marshall, WKU, Midd Tenn, App St, Chattanooga, Charolette

Pretty good BBall conference and a better version of the current CUSA.

FIU and FAU can join up with the GA schools and the SC schools to form a new and improved Sun Belt.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 01:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I agree about nothing happening until 22 or 23. The big programs have no need to expand, and the G5 would be smart to wait before attempting to reshuffle their decks. The problem with a reshuffle will always be "what to do with the programs no one wants?".

I think everyone is jockeying for position right now, because I could see the universities with the strongest overall G5 football and basketball programs aligning together and trying to separate themselves from the rest of the G5.

The AAC is trying to do it, but they just can't create enough football separation in their current form. Boise, and sporadic teams from other conferences are still able to keep the AAC champ from monopolizing the access bowl, and the AAC's other bowl teams haven't played very well against the other G5's in bowl games. When the new CFP contract is being figured out, that would certainly be the time for programs to make their moves. It will be interesting to see how programs position themselves over the next 5 years.

Orderly realignment is the province of sports columnists and message board fans. It doesn't exist in the wild.

You gut a league and leave those who don't fit or don't fit your perception of who fits and let them sort out their own fate.

Idaho and NMSU getting a short reprieve was the exception to the rule yet now Idaho is Big Sky and NMSU is independent.

If AAC and MWC end up happy with their circumstances, I'd not rule out the possibility of 4-6 Sun Belt, CUSA, and maybe even MAC schools sitting down at some point in another 3-5 years and asking how can we work together to make something of value, ironing things out and then kicking off a new 10-12 league and those left out have to make order of what is left.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 02:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:24 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Says a troll fan of a 2-10 team. 03-lmfao

C-USA had 9 bowl teams last season, and Marshall was one of them. The current line up in C-USA is doing quite well. You should worry about your program.

Marshall will do what is best for Marshall.

Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

Now you're saying that Marshall fans would rather be in the AAC. That's no doubt true, wouldn't we all. But your first post implied they'd rather have just stayed in the MAC. That's mostly untrue.

If CUSA looked the way is does now with the tv deal it currently has when Marshall was invited to join CUSA, they would not have left the MAC. They joined CUSA to play Louisville and Cincy on CBS Sports not UNC-Charlotte and FIU on Facebook Live.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 02:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:24 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Says a troll fan of a 2-10 team. 03-lmfao

C-USA had 9 bowl teams last season, and Marshall was one of them. The current line up in C-USA is doing quite well. You should worry about your program.

Marshall will do what is best for Marshall.

Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

Now you're saying that Marshall fans would rather be in the AAC. That's no doubt true, wouldn't we all. But your first post implied they'd rather have just stayed in the MAC. That's mostly untrue.

It is useless to reason with him. He is thickheaded, and honestly believes C-USA is Sun Belt 2.0, even though less the half of the members came from the Belt. I guess he doesn't like Georgia Southern playing in the real Sun Belt 2.0. He is obviously a troll.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 03:03 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 02:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

Now you're saying that Marshall fans would rather be in the AAC. That's no doubt true, wouldn't we all. But your first post implied they'd rather have just stayed in the MAC. That's mostly untrue.

It is useless to reason with him. He is thickheaded, and honestly believes C-USA is Sun Belt 2.0, even though less the half of the members came from the Belt. I guess he doesn't like Georgia Southern playing in the real Sun Belt 2.0. He is obviously a troll.

Actually the Sun Belt is a great conference for Georgia Southern. We have multiple historic rivals mere hours away and have maxed out our revenue by having minimal teams and a tight footprint. I can't think of a better scenario for Georgia Southern at our current stature.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
Would they have stayed in the MAC to play Tuesday and Wednesday games in November and to give up any games in Florida where they recruit heavily? Any addition to TV revenue would be offset by a reduction in ticket sales from those mid-week games (the majority of which are on ESPN+ now).
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 02:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:24 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Says a troll fan of a 2-10 team. 03-lmfao

C-USA had 9 bowl teams last season, and Marshall was one of them. The current line up in C-USA is doing quite well. You should worry about your program.

Marshall will do what is best for Marshall.

Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

Now you're saying that Marshall fans would rather be in the AAC. That's no doubt true, wouldn't we all. But your first post implied they'd rather have just stayed in the MAC. That's mostly untrue.

This thread makes me sad. Marshall deserves better than both conferences. Southern Miss too.

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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
(07-30-2018 03:02 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 02:38 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

Now you're saying that Marshall fans would rather be in the AAC. That's no doubt true, wouldn't we all. But your first post implied they'd rather have just stayed in the MAC. That's mostly untrue.

If CUSA looked the way is does now with the tv deal it currently has when Marshall was invited to join CUSA, they would not have left the MAC. They joined CUSA to play Louisville and Cincy on CBS Sports not UNC-Charlotte and FIU on Facebook Live.

This post shows how little you know about realignment.
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A Marshall fan should probably chime in on this thread at some point... but don't really want to touch this one. Just thankful we have a shot at being Top 25 in both football and men's basketball this year so we don't have to think about conferences.
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(07-30-2018 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:43 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Sounds like a logical reason to me. 04-cheers

FWIW. The people I talk to at A-State and elsewhere think the AAC and MWC contracts are the next two points of interest.

If AAC gets hosed (I think unlikely) their speculation is things could get messy fast. If AAC gets a decent raise they think CUSA and Sun Belt might see something happen.

If MWC gets hosed (unlikely but more likely than AAC getting hosed) or doesn't change their revenue sharing that MWC could get messy.

One guy (outside of AState, involved in ESPN Events) says he thinks 1 in 3 chance that some group of CUSA and Sun Belt break off to do their own thing and a 1 in 5 chance that the front-range schools (Wyoming, Colorado St, AFA, New Mexico) would break if they could add UTEP and some mix of another five schools in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi if they aren't satisfied because five Mountain and five Central time zone schools would be appealing to meet the needs of TV.

If I were wagering, my money would be on the G5 being pretty stable at least to around 2022 or 2023 when the next CFP contract starts shaping up.

CUSA West + Sunbelt West = SWC 2.0
CUSA East + Sunbelt East = SBC X.0
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(07-30-2018 01:25 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 09:24 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Says a troll fan of a 2-10 team. 03-lmfao

C-USA had 9 bowl teams last season, and Marshall was one of them. The current line up in C-USA is doing quite well. You should worry about your program.

Marshall will do what is best for Marshall.

Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

I can see there is no point in trying to rationalize with you, so I will just say... You are entitled to any opinion you like, TrueBlue "2-10" drew.

Best of luck playing in the actual "Sun Belt 2.0" next season.

Seriously Joe, given UNT's football history of the last couple of decades, shouldn't you back off a bit blasting a Ga. Southern fan for a 2-10 season?
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(07-30-2018 08:28 AM)NoDak Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 08:19 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Why would they not add 2, but add 4 to 8? Especially if the new schools are precluded from receiving CFP money for a few years? If their concern is adding more hands into the cookie jar then why would they allow more hands, even if it is later?
An FBS conference has to have 8 FBS members. 16 is the lowest it can have to support a split and both haves getting CFP. Seven members need to be together for at least 7-8 years to qualify to split.

WRONG. 8 years is how long it takes, after a split, for the new conference to qualify for an autobid. Which is why the Great West is dead.

Quote:FBS transition schools are not eligible for CFP.

I've never seen anything that says this. I'm fairly certain it would be up to the conference.

Quote:The way the MAC is structured, any seven western teams can break off and add an eighth team.

Again, WRONG.

For single-sport conferences in nonrevenue sports or hockey, there is still a traditional "continuity requirement", but it's, I believe, 2 years. For real conferences, "continuity" is an adjective that attaches to the conference itself, not to the schools that comprise it.
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Both MArshall and MAc start of with MA. sounds like the perfect MAtch.
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(07-30-2018 05:39 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 11:15 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:43 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Sounds like a logical reason to me. 04-cheers

FWIW. The people I talk to at A-State and elsewhere think the AAC and MWC contracts are the next two points of interest.

If AAC gets hosed (I think unlikely) their speculation is things could get messy fast. If AAC gets a decent raise they think CUSA and Sun Belt might see something happen.

If MWC gets hosed (unlikely but more likely than AAC getting hosed) or doesn't change their revenue sharing that MWC could get messy.

One guy (outside of AState, involved in ESPN Events) says he thinks 1 in 3 chance that some group of CUSA and Sun Belt break off to do their own thing and a 1 in 5 chance that the front-range schools (Wyoming, Colorado St, AFA, New Mexico) would break if they could add UTEP and some mix of another five schools in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi if they aren't satisfied because five Mountain and five Central time zone schools would be appealing to meet the needs of TV.

If I were wagering, my money would be on the G5 being pretty stable at least to around 2022 or 2023 when the next CFP contract starts shaping up.

CUSA West + Sunbelt West = SWC 2.0
CUSA East + Sunbelt East = SBC X.0

That is a non-starter. Last I checked there was no Sun Belt West, and there is no way the programs in C-USA West would agree to take every western Belt program. Arkansas State is the only program that would probably be agreeable to most, and they aren't interested.
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(07-30-2018 06:24 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 01:25 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:30 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 10:09 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  Nothing I said about CUSA isn't true. Take your butthurt elsewhere. And you seem to have forgotten that North Texas went 1-11 just two seasons ago. Don't act like y'all are some kind of world beaters. 07-coffee3

By the way, I'm sure Marshall fans loved flying all the way across the country for their grand prize bowl game, the New Mexico Bowl while they watched their former conference mates, UCF, play in the Peach Bowl. I bet Marshall fans are LOVING cusa and all those high profile bowl games they get to be a part of. /sarcasm

Ha! Georgia Southern was a 2-10, and you want to harp on Marshall's bowl. 01-wingedeagle

You are in Sun Belt 2.0. Former Sun Belt members don't even make up half of C-USA. Nice try troll. 07-coffee3

You clearly aren't reading any of my posts before you respond with your lunatic accusations. I'm not harping on their bowl, I'm saying that Marshall's football peers are doing bigger and better things and Marshall fans aren't happy about it. That's why there are all these threads with rumors about Marshall being desperate to get off the sinking ship that is CUSA.

I'm 100% sure that Marshall fans would rather be with the schools they left the MAC for than stuck in watered down conference with the UNT's and FIU's. That's all I'm saying.

And your conference is mostly made up of Sun Belt schools, start-ups, and FCS call-ups. Therefore, you are Sun Belt 2.0. Sit down 03-lmfao

I can see there is no point in trying to rationalize with you, so I will just say... You are entitled to any opinion you like, TrueBlue "2-10" drew.

Best of luck playing in the actual "Sun Belt 2.0" next season.

Seriously Joe, given UNT's football history of the last couple of decades, shouldn't you back off a bit blasting a Ga. Southern fan for a 2-10 season?

The dude was ragging on C-USA's bowls. Like the Sun Belt or MAC's are any better. I just found it ironic that the fan of a 2-10 Sun Belt team would harp on the C-USA bowl line-up.
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A MAC homecoming would have been a good move for Marshall when C-USA was hemoraging members. It would have saved them a fortune on travel and I think the revenue would be about the same. Exposure would be better but it would mean participating in those awful weeknight games.

As far as JMU goes I don't think they wanted the MAC. C-USA was what they had in mind so they could play ODU and Charlotte. For #14 WKU would have been a good bet. Thy were the past ones picked for C-USA and would have jumped at a shot to leave the SBC.
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(07-30-2018 02:37 PM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote:  It's not gonna happen unless ESPN brings more money to the table and even then no JMU, would need somebody else.

Who would be better? Cincy of course but there's no way they'll leave the AAC for the MAC. Same goes for WKU, they wouldn't leave without MTSU. That leaves powerhouse options like Youngstown available.

As someone who became a Miami fan long after they left the MAC the second time, I'm not that invested by the rivalry except for occasional smack on this board when we've played. If they and JMU join the MAC then great, but I'm not begging for it. Neither side really is.
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RE: 3rd Time the Charm for Marshall and the MAC?
Kick out EMU and Kent St, bring in Marshal and JMU. Immediate improvement in the MAC. [/align]
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(07-30-2018 02:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Marshall should try and get some of the eastern G5 outside of the AAC into a nice geographic conference.

East: Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, JMU, ODU, Army

West: Marshall, WKU, Midd Tenn, App St, Chattanooga, Charolette

01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I know I've tried explaining this to you before but it can't penetrate your thick skull, but I'll try again.

Buffalo is closer to Cleveland than it is to Albany.
Buffalo is closer to Detroit than it is to New York City.
Chicago and Boston are roughly the same distance from Buffalo.

Buy a friggin map and figure out where Buffalo is and how far other places are from it.

Buffalo is not leaving a conference in which they bus to all but one opponent for one that would force them to fly to almost every game.


And fark those cheating, toothless hillbillies. They can stay on the Island of Misfit Toys forever.
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(07-31-2018 06:53 AM)zibby Wrote:  
(07-30-2018 02:42 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  Marshall should try and get some of the eastern G5 outside of the AAC into a nice geographic conference.

East: Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, JMU, ODU, Army

West: Marshall, WKU, Midd Tenn, App St, Chattanooga, Charolette

01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle01-wingedeagle

I know I've tried explaining this to you before but it can't penetrate your thick skull, but I'll try again.

Buffalo is closer to Cleveland than it is to Albany.
Buffalo is closer to Detroit than it is to New York City.
Chicago and Boston are roughly the same distance from Buffalo.

Buy a friggin map and figure out where Buffalo is and how far other places are from it.

Buffalo is not leaving a conference in which they bus to all but one opponent for one that would force them to fly to almost every game.


And fark those cheating, toothless hillbillies. They can stay on the Island of Misfit Toys forever.

So guess Niagara and Canisius are beyond stupid for being in the MAAC, which is almost exclusively a Philly-NYC-Conn conference.

Buffalo would be smart to get their athletic programs in downstate regions to attract more students, as NY State now pays tuition for in state students. Ohio, PA, Michigan students etc have to pay.

Athletics are supposedly an advertisement for enrollment. Buffalo must really want out-state students for their inflated tuition.
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