(07-16-2018 12:49 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 12:46 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  WHAT? Killery is irrelevant? She just put out a presser insulting Trump. If you want her out of the picture you're not the only one but she's the nut that keeps on giving.

Yes, she's irrelevant. She lost any relevance once she lost the election. People on the right talk about her roughly 1500x more than any other segment of the population.

Quote:Look, if you don't see that it doesn't matter what Trump does that it'll be criticized in the most unsavory ways then you're one of the ones that defends the Demons without ceasing.

Has nothing to do with Trump. What we witnessed was borderline live fellatio while simultaneously throwing the US intelligence community and justice system under the bus. I would be equally as repulsed by this if it was Obama, W, Clinton, or HW.

Oblunder was the one who was aware of all this crap by the Demons and yet he told the IC to stand down... and I hope you still remember this little tidbit about fellatio with the Russkies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

(07-16-2018 12:34 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  It will come out that Russia had nothing to do with the DNC/Clinton/Podesta hackings. That is the one thing that came out of this presser. The only question is how the first breadcrumb is dropped.

I'll say this. The more Trump questions the charge the that the Russians hacked and downloaded the data published by wikileaks, the more it makes me wonder.

First off, one thing I've learned about the man is that when he makes what initially sounds like an outrageous claim against his antagonists, more often than not, it turns out that there's truth in what he says.

Then there's the FBI, who never took possession of the DNC servers and apparently have relied on a dim-paid company, Crowdstrike, to give them the evidence they've used to make the charge that Russians were involved in stealing the emails that wikileaks published. If that's the totality of Bueller's evidence, would such a process stand up in a court in the US?

And don't get me wrong, as has been stated elsewhere, we all know the Russians try every day to penetrate our security systems just as we do theirs. I'd just like to be comfortable that there's more proof there than, "you can trust us, we're the FBI".

Lastly, as we discussed in another thread last night, there have been what appear to be some serious questions about download speeds of the data published on wikileaks and elsewhere. I'm no computer expert but from what I understand, metadata in those published documents shows that the download speeds of the documents greatly exceeded speeds associated with long distance download over the internet and instead more closely approximated the download speeds one would get by downloading data to a thumbdrive....onsite. There were other things the metadata showed that I won't get in to.

Might be all bullshyte, but so far, a lot of what Bueller has done looks like bullshyte to me, so there's that. I'd sure like to see some professionals shoot down the thumbdrive download theory before accepting Bueller's claims without hesitation.

Time for mueller to stop hiding behind fake indictments that he knows he will never have to prove, and demand the DNC to produce their servers for INDEPENDENT forensic analysis.

(07-16-2018 12:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  For you Trump-o-philes...
Who is his suitable check and balance for yall?

1. Not Democrats
2. Not the media
3. Not our intelligence community
4. Not the Justice Department
5. Not Federal Law Enforcement
6. Not “establishment” Republicans


So, who bares the responsibility of keeping him in check for you all?

Quick review of the 2016 election:

1. Democrats - rigged their own primary and took Clinton cash in exchange for the nomination.
2. Media - provided cover for Hillary 24/7 while attacking any republican 24/7.
3. Intelligence community - still chasing an unverified dossier that was paid for by Clinton.
4. Justice Dept - usually work with the president, not against him. Session's recusing himself has caused headaches for Trump.
5. Federal Law Enforcement (FBI) - literally did mental gymnastics to avoid applying federal statues to HRC's actions that would have landed any one of us in jail. Strzok displayed extreme bias and had his hands on both Clinton investigation and Trump investigation.
6. Establishment Republicans - The only ones you listed that seem to be objective in their criticism of Trump. I don't agree with most of what it said, but they aren't blindly attacking him or making too many outrageous claims. They fear Trump, but even the old guard doesn't scream "the sky is falling" every time Trump tweets.

Why on earth would anybody trust the first five you listed after they way they acted since Trump won the nomination?

Doppelgängerung 
@horsewithnonick 
That is the most paint-chip-chewing, dumpster-huffing, pants-shittingly retarded freak-out over a planned meeting between two internationally-recognized heads of state I've read today. 


Bwahahahaha

(07-16-2018 12:50 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 12:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  For you Trump-o-philes...
Who is his suitable check and balance for yall?

1. Not Democrats
2. Not the media
3. Not our intelligence community
4. Not the Justice Department
5. Not Federal Law Enforcement
6. Not “establishment” Republicans


So, who bares the responsibility of keeping him in check for you all?

In check for what exactly?

1. Not Democrats Crooked
2. Not the media Crooked
3. Not our intelligence community Crooked
4. Not the Justice Department Crooked
5. Not Federal Law Enforcement Crooked
6. Not “establishment” Republicans RINOs

How can you trust any of these organizations?

The only check is Congress and all they've done is cry "WOLF". The American people know it and that's why he'll be elected again. When he does do something bad I'm sure us Trumpers will be the first ones to reject it. We're not the Demons.

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

Next you will be showing us a Tweet from Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, or Jeff Flake. They all hate Trump and are never going to come out and say anything positive. In other words they are just like you.

Now go check in with CNN or MSNBC to see what your next talking points are supposed to be.

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

His brain cancer probably made him think that. Poor McCain, still resting on his fake hero status. He's like Killery he just won't go away.

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

Oh, well if never Trumpers are outraged, I'm convinced.

Your desperation is palpable.

(07-16-2018 01:19 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

Now go check in with CNN or MSNBC to see what your next talking points are supposed to be.

Y'all like to talk about #WalkAway. I'll tell you this. Until the second term of W, I considered myself Republican and voted straight ticket Republican. When I saw Palin, and the number of people who were willing to fall in line with letting that dunce be within one breath of the most powerful position on the planet, I voted Obama.

Since then, I've often split my ballot. Even while I could see the same elements who backed Palin starting to corrupt the Republican party more and more. I haven't moved anywhere. I've always mostly agreed with Democrats on social issues, and mostly agreed with Republicans on small government and fiscal responsibility.

The Republican party today is embodied perfectly by the last few posts. If I, rightfully, question how our President could go in front of the world, and throw the United States intelligence community, Justice Department, Democratic National Committee, etc under the bus and simultaneously say he trusts Putin more than Americans...I can't. If that makes me alt-left, whatever. I consider myself a mostly middle of the road guy, but if trusting Americans over Russians makes me left, then I have no idea what to tell you.

Some people on this forum need to stop cheering for Team Trump and start cheering for Team America.

John Brennan is melting down on Twitter about Trump. Brennan seems to be getting very nervous about the IC allegations helping Hillary get $400 million. That can explain Strzok, McCabe, and others.

Hey John - just be grateful Sarah Palin saved your sorry ass from a Walter Mondale style defeat. ******* old hack idiot mother ******* son of a *****.

(07-16-2018 01:30 PM)NoDak Wrote:  John Brennan is melting down on Twitter about Trump. Brennan seems to be getting very nervous about the IC allegations helping Hillary get $400 million. That can explain Strzok, McCabe, and others.

Lulz. Brennan is an idiot.

(07-16-2018 12:49 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 12:46 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  WHAT? Killery is irrelevant? She just put out a presser insulting Trump. If you want her out of the picture you're not the only one but she's the nut that keeps on giving.

Yes, she's irrelevant. She lost any relevance once she lost the election. People on the right talk about her roughly 1500x more than any other segment of the population.

Quote:Look, if you don't see that it doesn't matter what Trump does that it'll be criticized in the most unsavory ways then you're one of the ones that defends the Demons without ceasing.

Has nothing to do with Trump. What we witnessed was borderline live fellatio while simultaneously throwing the US intelligence community and justice system under the bus. I would be equally as repulsed by this if it was Obama, W, Clinton, or HW.

Hillary was the choice vs. Trump. You look ridiculous complaining about Trump doing something your own candidate did.

(07-16-2018 01:29 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 01:19 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

Now go check in with CNN or MSNBC to see what your next talking points are supposed to be.

Y'all like to talk about #WalkAway. I'll tell you this. Until the second term of W, I considered myself Republican and voted straight ticket Republican. When I saw Palin, and the number of people who were willing to fall in line with letting that dunce be within one breath of the most powerful position on the planet, I voted Obama.

Since then, I've often split my ballot. Even while I could see the same elements who backed Palin starting to corrupt the Republican party more and more. I haven't moved anywhere. I've always mostly agreed with Democrats on social issues, and mostly agreed with Republicans on small government and fiscal responsibility.

The Republican party today is embodied perfectly by the last few posts. If I, rightfully, question how our President could go in front of the world, and throw the United States intelligence community, Justice Department, Democratic National Committee, etc under the bus and simultaneously say he trusts Putin more than Americans...I can't. If that makes me alt-left, whatever. I consider myself a mostly middle of the road guy, but if trusting Americans over Russians makes me left, then I have no idea what to tell you.

Some people on this forum need to stop cheering for Team Trump and start cheering for Team America.

I wonder how one can look at all that has happened, all that has been uncovered, and all that continues to be uncovered about those who opposed Trump from the beginning, and NOT be certain that the greatest threat to our great country and constitution lies within the country, and not without.

(07-16-2018 01:44 PM)TechRocks Wrote:  I wonder how one can look at all that has happened, all that has been uncovered, and all that continues to be uncovered about those who opposed Trump from the beginning, and NOT be certain that the greatest threat to our great country and constitution lies within the country, and not without.

I wonder how someone can like someone so much, be it Trump or anyone else, that they can come to the conclusion that the men and women of our intelligence community are out to destroy America.

(07-16-2018 11:03 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

Might as well investigate that too.

(07-16-2018 01:29 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 01:19 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(07-16-2018 01:13 PM)Gakusei Wrote:  

Now go check in with CNN or MSNBC to see what your next talking points are supposed to be.

Y'all like to talk about #WalkAway. I'll tell you this. Until the second term of W, I considered myself Republican and voted straight ticket Republican. When I saw Palin, and the number of people who were willing to fall in line with letting that dunce be within one breath of the most powerful position on the planet, I voted Obama.

Since then, I've often split my ballot. Even while I could see the same elements who backed Palin starting to corrupt the Republican party more and more. I haven't moved anywhere. I've always mostly agreed with Democrats on social issues, and mostly agreed with Republicans on small government and fiscal responsibility.

The Republican party today is embodied perfectly by the last few posts. If I, rightfully, question how our President could go in front of the world, and throw the United States intelligence community, Justice Department, Democratic National Committee, etc under the bus and simultaneously say he trusts Putin more than Americans...I can't. If that makes me alt-left, whatever. I consider myself a mostly middle of the road guy, but if trusting Americans over Russians makes me left, then I have no idea what to tell you.

Some people on this forum need to stop cheering for Team Trump and start cheering for Team America.

You don't get to paint your own picture here and pass it off as being the facts. Trump didn't throw all of those people under the bus and never said he trusted Putin more than he did Americans.

Secondly, you don't know what was discussed in a two hour closed door meeting between the two leaders.

Third, you don't know what was discussed in another closed door meeting that followed during lunch.

Fourth, when they come out before the cameras do you expect him, or anyone, to exclaim ... He's an SOB and I am not going to talk to him till he turns over those 12 Russians and declares that they meddled in the election??? If he did then that would pretty much end things as far as establishing any better working relationship with Russia.

Fifth, why is it so important for the Left (guys like you) to have to hear certain words again and again that everyone already knows to be the truth. EVERYONE knows that other countries ... Russia, China, North Korea, and even most if not all of our allies spy on us all the time. News flash for you ... We do it to them as well.

Sixth, Russia didn't sway my vote. Doesn't look like they swayed yours either. This is all about trying to make Trump look like he is an illegitimate president.

Lastly, you lost any credibility you might have had with your reasoning here as soon as you gave your weak sauce reason for voting Obama. You know ... The same Obama that whispered he would "have more flexibility" to deal with the Russians after his last election. The same Obama that stood by when Russia attacked our ally Ukraine and took over Crimea.

#walkaway