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RE: Big win for the 1st and 2nd Amendments
(07-14-2018 02:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(07-14-2018 02:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(07-14-2018 02:18 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-14-2018 01:33 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Stink what is the 3-D blueprint stuff? You still need a manufacturing capability? Anyone can buy an AR take it apart and mfg those parts and copy them? I have seen Fillipinos on youtube making custom rifles in 800 sq. ft. workshops.

what has tech shown us over time.......the price curve steadily drops as efficiency and demand level out....it becomes ubiquitous.....and the bad guys don't give two shites on the front end....

just think about it.....
What kind of cost is associated with making a 3-D printed gun from metal and not plastic? What do you need in your garage or basement?



Best thing is a programmable metal milling machine. The defendant in the above case provides one, along with the software instructions to build the lower receiver. Other plans for other portions of the gun (non-regulated) are far more easily obtainable.

*But*, even though the milling machine + instructions is legal at this point, in no way whatsoever allow *anyone* else to use that machine to build a lower.

Legal to do it for yourself, illegal to sell that lower to anyone.

Legal to do it for yourself, but the millisecond that you allow *anyone* else to mill a lower, or even *complete* an 80% lower, *you* become a gun manufacturer under the law and need an FFL license.

This is the reason *no one* ever has a 'build party' anymore.

pls define how a felon or banger gives a shite.....
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RE: Big win for the 1st and 2nd Amendments
They dont. I have better things to do with 3.5 years per violation, so I do. Same exact reason why I dont possess a sawed off for ***** and giggles.

I would hate to see someone who did care like I do spend time that manner; or, have to deal with the ATF boys in any way.
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RE: Big win for the 1st and 2nd Amendments
What a milling machine cost, and how much does the raw materials cost.
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You mean a 3D printer can make something as complex as a gun !?

Damn. I guess I'll have to welcome my future Cylon overlords.
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RE: Big win for the 1st and 2nd Amendments
(07-14-2018 03:22 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  What a milling machine cost, and how much does the raw materials cost.

Unsure about the 3-D printed stuff.

As for metal you can get a small milling machine that will fit in a standard garage for around $1500, and an 80% completed lower receiver for an AR 15 for less than $100, an 80% Glock handgun lower for around $150.

Or you can get a piece of aluminum billet for less than $30.


Unless you are going to be doing additional non-gun metalwork it's simply not worth it. I haven't done any milling of metal since high school and only a semester of that as we rotated through the various programs offered at vocational center our freshman year. I could see myself learning how to do it. I've said before that when we eventually move to the country I would like to take the basic gunsmith course offered at one of our technical colleges and start doing some minor repairs to firearms in addition to being a FFL holder. A friend of mine did that and he's been able to make himself a pretty good chunk of change. He maintains a small amount of inventory, mainly consignments, and does the bulk of his business through transfers and minor gun repairs. I'd do it now but I don't want to be a cockblock.
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