That's what we need.

No thanks to Puerto Rican statehood.

(07-12-2018 07:21 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  University of Puerto Rico to the Big XII and Pontifical Catholic to the Big East..

That would require a football startup by UPR...I think they have to begin as G5 or FCS.

(07-12-2018 05:56 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I hope they go to 60. 50 is a nice round number.

Keep the number at 50 so as not to mess up the flag. Instead, merge low population states as needed.

(07-14-2018 06:48 AM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 05:56 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I hope they go to 60. 50 is a nice round number.

Keep the number at 50 so as not to mess up the flag. Instead, merge low population states as needed.

No US President has ever been born and died with the flag staying the same.

(07-14-2018 06:52 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  No US President has ever been born and died with the flag staying the same.

Obama would break that precedent if the flag stays the same for the rest of his life

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

(07-14-2018 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

1) Corporate bailout. PR owes billions to Wall St and Hedge funds.
2) Access to full welfare benefits.
3) All of the illegals in PR, probably 100,000 Dominicans (and others) we be defacto American citizens.
4) Prior to statehood, you would see all kinds of Caribbeans flocking to the island,
buying fake papers and chit claiming to be Ricans.

(07-13-2018 10:35 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(07-13-2018 04:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Quebec, The 51st US State

The people in Quebec also wants to leave Canada to join in becoming US.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. No one is gonna want to have to deal with converting numerous things to French. Spanish is already a pain in the rear.

Quebec would be better off as a department of France.

No thanks, let's skip.

(07-14-2018 09:40 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

1) Corporate bailout. PR owes billions to Wall St and Hedge funds.
2) Access to full welfare benefits.
3) All of the illegals in PR, probably 100,000 Dominicans (and others) we be defacto American citizens.
4) Prior to statehood, you would see all kinds of Caribbeans flocking to the island,
buying fake papers and chit claiming to be Ricans.

I'm can't buy 3 and 4. PR citizens are already American citizens. There is absolutely nothing preventing number 4 from happening now, so why isn't it already going on, and how is that different from California?

(07-14-2018 11:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:40 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

1) Corporate bailout. PR owes billions to Wall St and Hedge funds.
2) Access to full welfare benefits.
3) All of the illegals in PR, probably 100,000 Dominicans (and others) we be defacto American citizens.
4) Prior to statehood, you would see all kinds of Caribbeans flocking to the island,
buying fake papers and chit claiming to be Ricans.

I'm can't buy 3 and 4. PR citizens are already American citizens. There is absolutely nothing preventing number 4 from happening now, so why isn't it already going on, and how is that different from California?

4) is and has happened. Haitians got protected status, PR pay is better than DR, and a million times better than Haiti. Different from Cali in that you need a boat to get there and PR ain't Cali relative to wealth. Lots of smugglers operate out of DR. All a Dominican needs is fake PR identification. Now if it were announced that PR would become a state everyone would be trying to get there, because then you could live anywhere in the USA.

(07-14-2018 11:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:40 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

1) Corporate bailout. PR owes billions to Wall St and Hedge funds.
2) Access to full welfare benefits.
3) All of the illegals in PR, probably 100,000 Dominicans (and others) we be defacto American citizens.
4) Prior to statehood, you would see all kinds of Caribbeans flocking to the island,
buying fake papers and chit claiming to be Ricans.

I'm can't buy 3 and 4. PR citizens are already American citizens. There is absolutely nothing preventing number 4 from happening now, so why isn't it already going on, and how is that different from California?

That's because its B.S

(07-14-2018 12:23 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 11:28 AM)banker Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:40 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(07-14-2018 09:18 AM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  

(07-12-2018 07:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Statehood is a bad idea both for Puerto Rico and for the rest of America.

Still, though, America promised PR a long time ago they could have statehood if they ever decided they wanted it.

What I’m not convinced if is if they (people living in PR) really do want statehood, or not. Please note I’m talking about the people who actually live there now, not people who have moved to the mainland, or whose parents used to live there, etc.

What are the arguments against statehood? I'll admit close to complete ignorance on this issue.

1) Corporate bailout. PR owes billions to Wall St and Hedge funds.
2) Access to full welfare benefits.
3) All of the illegals in PR, probably 100,000 Dominicans (and others) we be defacto American citizens.
4) Prior to statehood, you would see all kinds of Caribbeans flocking to the island,
buying fake papers and chit claiming to be Ricans.

I'm can't buy 3 and 4. PR citizens are already American citizens. There is absolutely nothing preventing number 4 from happening now, so why isn't it already going on, and how is that different from California?

That's because its B.S

1986,
An unstemmed tide of illegal immigrants from the Dominican Republic courses through Puerto Rico every day, headed directly for New York or staying here to work for substandard wages.

It is a backdoor pipeline of illegal immigration to the United States mainland that has existed for years as Dominicans sought relief from economic hardship on their Caribbean island of Hispaniola, which the Dominican Republic shares with the poverty-stricken nation of Haiti.
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/12/17/us/pu...ublic.html

The Other Border: Unauthorized Immigration to Puerto Rico
The other border has no fence to divide it. There are no bridges to cross or checkpoints to be checked at. There’s no desert to lose oneself in. The other border is a 60 mile stretch of ocean between the island of Hispaniola – shared by the Dominican Republic and Haiti – and the US commonwealth of Puerto Rico, known as the Mona Passage. The Mona Passage is the main route for unauthorized immigration to Puerto Rico, mostly from the Dominican Republic.
http://latinousa.org/2015/01/02/border-u...erto-rico/

Dominican Immigrants Fight for Land Rights in Puerto Rico
https://cronkite.asu.edu/buffett/puertor...abaja.html
Oct 29, 2012 - According to the U.S. Census Bureau, there are 68,306 Dominicans living in Puerto Rico. Dominican Consul Maximo Taveras believes it to be closer to 200,000.
https://cronkite.asu.edu/buffett/puertor...abaja.html

(07-13-2018 04:48 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  Quebec, The 51st US State


The people in Quebec also wants to leave Canada to join in becoming US.

Oh **** no. I hate French Canadians

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Zero percent chance Quebec joins the USA.

If Ontario got obliterated by nuclear bombs, then maybe a 5% chance.

Haiti wants to be a state as well. I read that Jamaica people wants to be a US state as well. US virgin Islands could be part of the Carolinas, PR, Haiti and Jamaica could be part of Florida. Annex DR as part of Haiti to make it one big state as well. We could give these islands better support than the European countries could. Russia would hate that idea since they have Cuba.