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Massey Ratings
CUSA w/ bottom 3 spots. Rice, Charlotte, UTEP.

40 FAU
67 Marshall
70 LaTech
74 North Texas
78 Southern Miss
80 MTSU
87 FIU
90 UTSA
93 UAB
97 WKU
108 ODU
128 Rice
129 Charlotte
130 UTEP

G5 Conf Averages:

68.63 American Athletic
82.42 Mountain West
85.74 Mid-American
89.27 Conference USA
93.86 Sun Belt

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
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(07-10-2018 12:07 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  CUSA w/ bottom 3 spots. Rice, Charlotte, UTEP.

40 FAU
67 Marshall
70 LaTech
74 North Texas
78 Southern Miss
80 MTSU
87 FIU
90 UTSA
93 UAB
97 WKU
108 ODU
128 Rice
129 Charlotte
130 UTEP

G5 Conf Averages:

68.63 American Athletic
82.42 Mountain West
85.74 Mid-American
89.27 Conference USA
93.86 Sun Belt

https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm


clt says Charlotte is overrated.
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I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.
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How can TEP possibly be last? It’s only July and they’ve already matched last year’s win total.
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Normally, I can accept MT ending the season with a ranking around 68 (the average between Orlando Sentinel and Massey). But with this being Li'l Stock's final year that would be a real big disappointment. It's time for the dean of Coaches and his band of merry men to climb out of mediocrity and win 8 or 9 ball games and at least a share of a CUSA Championship.
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Lindy's has us at #93. Now I'm not really sure that we're
As good at the OS thinks we are, but 93 is just stupid. Especally since they said that we could win the league.
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(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm
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(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games
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(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games


Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu
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(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games
Comparing #1 to #1, down to #12 vs #12, which conveniently drops off two of your so-called outliers...
#1 AAC 23 spots higher
#2 AAC 41 spots higher
#3 AAC 39 spots higher
#4 AAC 29 spots higher
#5 AAC 30 spots higher
#6 AAC 20 spots higher
#7 AAC 22 spots higher
#8 AAC 17 spots higher
#9 CUSA 4 spots higher
#10 CUSA 3 spots higher
#11 AAC 3 spots higher
#12 AAC 14 spots higher

You wanna drop off UCF? Okay our #2 over your #1 down to our #8 over your #7 AAC is +6, +37,+22,+24,+19,+11,+9...
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(07-15-2018 10:40 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games


Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu

Not just 1 ass whipping my friend, Navy, South Florida, Memphis, UConn. CUSA is 5-0 vs AAC in bowl games since league change in 2014
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Is this backlash because Phi Steele had zero AAC teams in preseason top 25? Not even UCF

If you want respect, the AAC best teams have got to win bowls games. The AAC teams can’t even beat other G5 bowl teams. Thus no respect in top 25 preseason
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(07-15-2018 11:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:40 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-11-2018 12:23 PM)IAH Wrote:  I like is these avgs better than the Orlando one...

But I will be the first to say that there is no way we are 20 places higher on avg than CUSA.

Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games


Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu

Not just 1 ass whipping my friend, Navy, South Florida, Memphis, UConn. CUSA is 5-0 vs AAC in bowl games since league change in 2014

How about the regular season?
Where the AAC's fourth ranked team went on the road to beat the CUSA champ by three scores? Or the AAC's seventh ranked team skull-dragged the CUSA runner up hanging half a hundred on 'em.
But you want to base your self-esteem on beating that seventh ranked team when they had lost their coaching staff - not the head coach the staff to an extent that the new HC was on the sidelines (a rarity in these situations) without knowing the vocabulary of the offense and a grad assistant was calling the plays. Or the year prior we did have a nice #2 vs #2 matchup...except that the AAC #2 was missing half its starters including QB and captains on both sides of the ball....
Whatever makes you feel better little guy.
Your board, I don't want to be an ugly guest, I'm out.
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(07-15-2018 11:36 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:40 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:27 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Agreed - that IS a low preseason.
I mean given that AAC finished last season with an average ranking 25 spots higher than CUSA.
https://www.masseyratings.com/cf/arch/co...017-15.htm

Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games


Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu

Not just 1 ass whipping my friend, Navy, South Florida, Memphis, UConn. CUSA is 5-0 vs AAC in bowl games since league change in 2014

How about the regular season?
Where the AAC's fourth ranked team went on the road to beat the CUSA champ by three scores? Or the AAC's seventh ranked team skull-dragged the CUSA runner up hanging half a hundred on 'em.
But you want to base your self-esteem on beating that seventh ranked team when they had lost their coaching staff - not the head coach the staff to an extent that the new HC was on the sidelines (a rarity in these situations) without knowing the vocabulary of the offense and a grad assistant was calling the plays. Or the year prior we did have a nice #2 vs #2 matchup...except that the AAC #2 was missing half its starters including QB and captains on both sides of the ball....
Whatever makes you feel better little guy.
Your board, I don't want to be an ugly guest, I'm out.

Don’t be a keyboard warrior Navy. You’re better than that.
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(07-15-2018 11:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:36 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:40 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:36 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Skewed by outliers, UCF and Rice UTEP and Charlotte.

Keep the ratings though, CUSA will just keep kicking AAC arse in bowl games


Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu

Not just 1 ass whipping my friend, Navy, South Florida, Memphis, UConn. CUSA is 5-0 vs AAC in bowl games since league change in 2014

How about the regular season?
Where the AAC's fourth ranked team went on the road to beat the CUSA champ by three scores? Or the AAC's seventh ranked team skull-dragged the CUSA runner up hanging half a hundred on 'em.
But you want to base your self-esteem on beating that seventh ranked team when they had lost their coaching staff - not the head coach the staff to an extent that the new HC was on the sidelines (a rarity in these situations) without knowing the vocabulary of the offense and a grad assistant was calling the plays. Or the year prior we did have a nice #2 vs #2 matchup...except that the AAC #2 was missing half its starters including QB and captains on both sides of the ball....
Whatever makes you feel better little guy.
Your board, I don't want to be an ugly guest, I'm out.

Don’t be a keyboard warrior Navy. You’re better than that.
???
What part?
I came with facts about end of season rankings, conference average, #1 v #1 etc, #2 v #1 etc to take away the AAC "outlier" , and facts about regular season results.
I added context to two of the bowl results.
And I meant it that I don't intend to come to your board and spread discontent. I am conscious of representing my school and my service, even in message board banter. You'll note that my initial was a response to a fan of an AAC school saying something...misguided.
I don't have the inclination to crowd your board with more if my responses.
You and I have discussed the '16 Armed Forces Bowl before: I have continued to say good game, congratulations, it became a who-has-the-ball-last game and LaTech executed when it counted...but Navy missing half the starters including QB and the captains on both sides of the ball means it is not a convincing case study for your argument that "we're all the same - look at this result."
So where was I a keyboard warrior ?
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(07-15-2018 11:27 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Is this backlash because Phi Steele had zero AAC teams in preseason top 25? Not even UCF

If you want respect, the AAC best teams have got to win bowls games. The AAC teams can’t even beat other G5 bowl teams. Thus no respect in top 25 preseason

They keep winning NY6 bowls.
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(07-15-2018 12:27 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:47 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:36 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:18 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 10:40 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  Pretty sad you keep hanging your hat on beating smu

Not just 1 ass whipping my friend, Navy, South Florida, Memphis, UConn. CUSA is 5-0 vs AAC in bowl games since league change in 2014

How about the regular season?
Where the AAC's fourth ranked team went on the road to beat the CUSA champ by three scores? Or the AAC's seventh ranked team skull-dragged the CUSA runner up hanging half a hundred on 'em.
But you want to base your self-esteem on beating that seventh ranked team when they had lost their coaching staff - not the head coach the staff to an extent that the new HC was on the sidelines (a rarity in these situations) without knowing the vocabulary of the offense and a grad assistant was calling the plays. Or the year prior we did have a nice #2 vs #2 matchup...except that the AAC #2 was missing half its starters including QB and captains on both sides of the ball....
Whatever makes you feel better little guy.
Your board, I don't want to be an ugly guest, I'm out.

Don’t be a keyboard warrior Navy. You’re better than that.
???
What part?
I came with facts about end of season rankings, conference average, #1 v #1 etc, #2 v #1 etc to take away the AAC "outlier" , and facts about regular season results.
I added context to two of the bowl results.
And I meant it that I don't intend to come to your board and spread discontent. I am conscious of representing my school and my service, even in message board banter. You'll note that my initial was a response to a fan of an AAC school saying something...misguided.
I don't have the inclination to crowd your board with more if my responses.
You and I have discussed the '16 Armed Forces Bowl before: I have continued to say good game, congratulations, it became a who-has-the-ball-last game and LaTech executed when it counted...but Navy missing half the starters including QB and the captains on both sides of the ball means it is not a convincing case study for your argument that "we're all the same - look at this result."
So where was I a keyboard warrior ?

Bullshite. Navy got beat end of story. No excuses. You don't think Tech was missing players. The AAC is not near as good as many of the AAC fans think it is.
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(07-17-2018 08:03 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  
(07-15-2018 11:27 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  Is this backlash because Phi Steele had zero AAC teams in preseason top 25? Not even UCF

If you want respect, the AAC best teams have got to win bowls games. The AAC teams can’t even beat other G5 bowl teams. Thus no respect in top 25 preseason

They keep winning NY6 bowls.

I wouldn't give them any respect either. The AAC has been horrible against other G-5 teams in bowls.
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(07-17-2018 08:03 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  They keep winning NY6 bowls.

Yet keep losing to Marshall in, well, everything....

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(07-18-2018 12:55 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 08:03 PM)NTXCoog12 Wrote:  They keep winning NY6 bowls.

Yet keep losing to Marshall in, well, everything....

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Are we talking UCF?
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