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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
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Quote:Steele notes two important guidelines about this year's rankings, which for this exercise have been trimmed to the first 25 teams. "My preseason rankings are not my power rankings," Steele writes. "These rankings take into account the totality of the circumstances that I feel each team will face in the 2018 season — schedule strength, foes' schedules (coming off byes), experience edges at the start of the year and so forth.

"My Top 40 is where I project teams to finish in the final rankings and have always done quite well. These rankings reflect not only talent, but the strength of schedule and how each team should finish the season. Over the past five years, 244 of the 274 teams that I have listed in my top rankings have made it to bowl eligibility and that is a solid 89 percent."

Quote:25. ARKANSAS STATE

From Phil Steele's College Football Preview magazine: "Arkansas State is just No. 73 in my Power Poll, but was arguably the best team in the Sun Belt last year and returns QB Justice Hansen. They do face Alabama on the road, but they could end up being favored in 11 games this season."

247Sports take: Steele starts his preseason poll off with a bang with the inclusion of the Red Wolves, who won't be recognized in any other preseason rankings most likely. He believes Arkansas State could finish the season 11-1 with a host of returners, most notably Hansen, a fifth-year senior who threw for nearly 4,000 yards last fall and had 37 touchdown passes.
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
Phil likes us more than we like us.


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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team. He also has Hansen rated higher than Tua Tagovailoa. I have incredible doubts that Hansen will be the best QB on the field when you play Alabama.
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team.


Yeah our team is pretty darn good. Our staff is pretty darn not. ??‍♂️


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(07-09-2018 11:16 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team.


Yeah our team is pretty darn good. Our staff is pretty darn not. ??‍♂️


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Point is, they never have the consistency in and out of conference play to be a Top 25 team.
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 11:18 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:16 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team.


Yeah our team is pretty darn good. Our staff is pretty darn not. ??‍♂️


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Point is, they never have the consistency in and out of conference play to be a Top 25 team.


Oh I know that. That’s why I said Phil likes us better than we like us.


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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
To me, this is one of those articles where for us (meaning the Sun Belt), you don't focus on the validity.

You focus that a well recognized publication is viewing the upper echelon of our conference as a peer to the point that naming one of them as a top 25 team is not some crazy prediction.

So for that, I say... that's awesome.
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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
If Anderson can actually prove he can win an OOC game or two, and beat Tulsa and UNLV, then I say let Arkansas State be ranked.
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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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Wasn't StAte the only SBC team to lose a bowl game last year? Versus a 6-6 CUSA team?
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 11:55 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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Wasn't StAte the only SBC team to lose a bowl game last year? Versus a 6-6 CUSA team?


Yep. It’s true. It’s damn true.


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(07-09-2018 11:46 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  If Anderson can actually prove he can win an OOC game or two, and beat Tulsa and UNLV, then I say let Arkansas State be ranked.

Big IF right there.
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(07-09-2018 11:56 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:55 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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Wasn't StAte the only SBC team to lose a bowl game last year? Versus a 6-6 CUSA team?


Yep. It’s true. It’s damn true.


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Oh ya I had forgotten that

Wouldn’t surprise me to see them 1-4 OOC lol
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(07-09-2018 12:25 PM)Atlanta Trojan Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:56 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:55 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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Wasn't StAte the only SBC team to lose a bowl game last year? Versus a 6-6 CUSA team?


Yep. It’s true. It’s damn true.


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Oh ya I had forgotten that

Wouldn’t surprise me to see them 1-4 OOC lol


Me either. Now or never time.


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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
He's right in the sense that if we perform well in OOC Play, we'll likely be favored in 11 of our 12 games. I don't see us as an underdog in SBC Play unless we are terrible OOC again and App does their usual.

However that is one very big if given our history.
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A good coach should take what AState has AND the schedule (which features only three teams with winning records in 2017 and only one of those on the road, Alabama) and have a damn good shot at 11-1, which would then almost guarantee the SBC title game would be at Centennial Bank Stadium.

I'm thinking 8 wins right now until I see other evidence.
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(07-09-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  A good coach should take what AState has AND the schedule (which features only three teams with winning records in 2017 and only one of those on the road, Alabama) and have a damn good shot at 11-1, which would then almost guarantee the SBC title game would be at Centennial Bank Stadium.

I'm thinking 8 wins right now until I see other evidence.

LOL. I just made the same prediction on the Discord channel for Sun Belt. I drank that Koolaid once. Not again.
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(07-09-2018 01:05 PM)sdcritter Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  A good coach should take what AState has AND the schedule (which features only three teams with winning records in 2017 and only one of those on the road, Alabama) and have a damn good shot at 11-1, which would then almost guarantee the SBC title game would be at Centennial Bank Stadium.

I'm thinking 8 wins right now until I see other evidence.

LOL. I just made the same prediction on the Discord channel for Sun Belt. I drank that Koolaid once. Not again.

How busy is the discord channel?
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Not terribly right now. I wouldn't expect it to be until football season starts. But it's a great chat room for all us stAte fans right now. We own the airwaves because others are not posting.
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