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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-09-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  A good coach should take what AState has AND the schedule (which features only three teams with winning records in 2017 and only one of those on the road, Alabama) and have a damn good shot at 11-1, which would then almost guarantee the SBC title game would be at Centennial Bank Stadium.

I'm thinking 8 wins right now until I see other evidence.


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(07-09-2018 01:26 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 01:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  A good coach should take what AState has AND the schedule (which features only three teams with winning records in 2017 and only one of those on the road, Alabama) and have a damn good shot at 11-1, which would then almost guarantee the SBC title game would be at Centennial Bank Stadium.

I'm thinking 8 wins right now until I see other evidence.


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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
If any G5 school goes 11-1 they’ll be ranked, pretty good analysis by Phil.
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RE: stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
The same stAte that needed a miracle 4th and 16 in 2016 to beat us (after starting 0-4) and gave up nearly 500 yards of offense to us in 2017 (at the worst defensive ypp average of all SBC teams that beat us), while giving up 10 turnovers in 2 combined games to TYSON SUMMERS coached teams?

That same stAte team is going to be #25?

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(07-09-2018 07:05 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  The same stAte that needed a miracle 4th and 16 in 2016 to beat us (after starting 0-4) and gave up nearly 500 yards of offense to us in 2017 (at the worst defensive ypp average of all SBC teams that beat us), while giving up 10 turnovers in 2 combined games to TYSON SUMMERS coached teams?

That same stAte team is going to be #25?

K.


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(07-09-2018 06:40 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  If any G5 school goes 11-1 they’ll be ranked, pretty good analysis by Phil.

If an SBC team were to go 11-1, I agree they would have potential to be ranked.
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(07-09-2018 07:05 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  The same stAte that needed a miracle 4th and 16 in 2016 to beat us (after starting 0-4) and gave up nearly 500 yards of offense to us in 2017 (at the worst defensive ypp average of all SBC teams that beat us), while giving up 10 turnovers in 2 combined games to TYSON SUMMERS coached teams?

That same stAte team is going to be #25?

K.

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I think Ark State can crack the top 25 if they run the ball better (not just from using passing to set up the run) and play better defense.

Speaking of defense, I'm looking forward to hosting the Red Wolves again this year. They gave up a total of 858 yards to Tyson Summers' 2 offenses.

Going to be interesting to see how they do against offensive coaches that know what they're doing. 05-stirthepot
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(07-09-2018 07:41 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I think Ark State can crack the top 25 if they run the ball better (not just from using passing to set up the run) and play better defense.

Speaking of defense, I'm looking forward to hosting the Red Wolves again this year. They gave up a total of 858 yards to Tyson Summers' 2 offenses.

Going to be interesting to see how they do against offensive coaches that know what they're doing. 05-stirthepot


Not many coaches get the honor of going 0-2 against Blake Anderson.


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(07-09-2018 07:42 PM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 07:41 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  I think Ark State can crack the top 25 if they run the ball better (not just from using passing to set up the run) and play better defense.

Speaking of defense, I'm looking forward to hosting the Red Wolves again this year. They gave up a total of 858 yards to Tyson Summers' 2 offenses.

Going to be interesting to see how they do against offensive coaches that know what they're doing. 05-stirthepot


Not many coaches get the honor of going 0-2 against Blake Anderson.


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That would be Georgia Southern....right? Just checking.
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(07-09-2018 07:05 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  The same stAte that needed a miracle 4th and 16 in 2016 to beat us (after starting 0-4) and gave up nearly 500 yards of offense to us in 2017 (at the worst defensive ypp average of all SBC teams that beat us), while giving up 10 turnovers in 2 combined games to TYSON SUMMERS coached teams?

That same stAte team is going to be #25?

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This is what I love about stAte fans. If there's blood in the water they swarm like sharks at a seafront butcher shop.
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(07-09-2018 07:05 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  The same stAte that needed a miracle 4th and 16 in 2016 to beat us (after starting 0-4) and gave up nearly 500 yards of offense to us in 2017 (at the worst defensive ypp average of all SBC teams that beat us), while giving up 10 turnovers in 2 combined games to TYSON SUMMERS coached teams?

That same stAte team is going to be #25?

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(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team. He also has Hansen rated higher than Tua Tagovailoa. I have incredible doubts that Hansen will be the best QB on the field when you play Alabama.

Ding ding ding. stAte fans are usually calling for Anderson's head by the end of the OCC run and then love him again after conference. Red Wolves are very good but still waiting for that complete season.
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(07-10-2018 07:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team. He also has Hansen rated higher than Tua Tagovailoa. I have incredible doubts that Hansen will be the best QB on the field when you play Alabama.

Ding ding ding. stAte fans are usually calling for Anderson's head by the end of the OCC run and then love him again after conference. Red Wolves are very good but still waiting for that complete season.


He's got about 40% who know he's not good and 60% who love him regardless.


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stAte has to win their OOC games to get ranked. Not just a couple but at minimum 3 of them. And probably give Alabama a good game...Don’t see it

We got ranked 2 years ago because we won 3 of our OOC games and gave national champion Clemson everything it could handle.
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An 11-1 Arkansas State team would be ranked.

But there are plenty of landmines before everyone starts celebrating.

They'll be favored in three OOC games, but that doesn't mean they'll win.

Beating App, even in Jonesboro, isn't a given.

Georgia Southern is very much an unknown and the game is in Statesboro.

ULM at home in the finale could be interesting if the Warhawks learn to play some defense during the season.

And, Arkansas State will come to Lafayette as a double digit favorite, which will mean nothing since they've won at Cajun Field exactly one time since 1992.
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(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.

He is right more than not and the most accurate in the college football predicting industry for nearly 20 years.
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(07-10-2018 07:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-10-2018 07:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 10:56 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  ARKST is good, but he's smoking something. ARKST is not a Top 25 team.


They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team. He also has Hansen rated higher than Tua Tagovailoa. I have incredible doubts that Hansen will be the best QB on the field when you play Alabama.

Ding ding ding. stAte fans are usually calling for Anderson's head by the end of the OCC run and then love him again after conference. Red Wolves are very good but still waiting for that complete season.


He's got about 40% who know he's not good and 60% who love him regardless.


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And about half of that 60% don't give a crap about the football performance, it was over .500 and he is public about his faith, LIFETIME CONTRACT!!!!
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stAte makes Phil Steele's Top 25 Prediction
(07-10-2018 09:37 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(07-10-2018 07:25 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  
(07-10-2018 07:24 AM)slycat Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:15 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:  
(07-09-2018 11:07 AM)WolfBird Wrote:  They’re better than everyone else in this league.


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That can at least be argued, haha. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys won it all. That said, Anderson's teams simply don't have that killer instinct in OOC. Outside of the SBC, they never seem like a truly dominant team. He also has Hansen rated higher than Tua Tagovailoa. I have incredible doubts that Hansen will be the best QB on the field when you play Alabama.

Ding ding ding. stAte fans are usually calling for Anderson's head by the end of the OCC run and then love him again after conference. Red Wolves are very good but still waiting for that complete season.


He's got about 40% who know he's not good and 60% who love him regardless.


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And about half of that 60% don't give a crap about the football performance, it was over .500 and he is public about his faith, LIFETIME CONTRACT!!!!


Correct.


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